a 15 year old movie made nearly as much as John Carter did
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:02 AM
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:06 AM
Like I said, I'm not talking about the excellent revenue involved. Although I do think there's a strong degree of cynical business thinking in terms of Cameron's motivations - of course he realised there's a large tasteless audience out there who would lap up the sight of a real-life tragedy, re-enacted... in 3D. Don't forget to bring your glasses! Gasp as the dead baby floats past you so close you could almost touch it!
What we need next is Schindler's List 3D.
What we need next is Schindler's List 3D.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:07 AM
No, and don't be an idiot here, you know exactly what we're talking about. I'd give Night of the Hunter 4 out of 4 stars. It's worthy but it has moments that are not as good as other. At least the children's acting was superior to the overrated film To Kill A Mockingbird which gets alot of perfect scores but it features some truly horrific child acting, some of the worst ever in a big film.
I'm not denying that there's not a perfect film out there, just trying to clarify Steef's rating. I just find it odd to say something isn't perfect but to give it a perfect rating.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:08 AM
I think it's quite daring. The film is 15 years old, the hype is long gone and a lot of people gripe about the movie.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:10 AM
People are fascinated with Titanic the ship, not Titanic the movie. That's why the film remains successful. Of course, it is a very good movie nonetheless.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:12 AM
no you should post more, you're a much better poster than you used to be and this place is better with you than without you. And when the zombie apocalypse arrives you can shove indy4 into the path of a zombies, and then one of us can shove you.
No, and don't be an idiot here, you know exactly what we're talking about. I'd give Night of the Hunter 4 out of 4 stars. It's worthy but it has moments that are not as good as other. At least the children's acting was superior to the overrated film To Kill A Mockingbird which gets alot of perfect scores but it features some truly horrific child acting, some of the worst ever in a big film.
I'm not denying that there's not a perfect film out there, just trying to clarify Steef's rating. I just find it odd to say something isn't perfect but to give it a perfect rating.
I need to post less, should have stayed away longer.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:12 AM
The last time I watched it was around late 1999. I'm afraid to revisit it.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:16 AM
why?
the thing I find hilarious is that so many people talk about the screenplay. Basically it's their only argument, and it's not even theirs. They don't have their own thoughts, they're just talking heads running their mouths with someone elses statement and one that is often poorly backed up.
the thing I find hilarious is that so many people talk about the screenplay. Basically it's their only argument, and it's not even theirs. They don't have their own thoughts, they're just talking heads running their mouths with someone elses statement and one that is often poorly backed up.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:20 AM
It might have something to do with what you just say. Or maybe I'm afraid to see it now, being a bit older.
TBH I don't even remember the film that well. One thing that stuck in my head is the iceberg sequence. From what I remember it was very well done and Horner's clanging percussion was a big part of that.
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TBH I don't even remember the film that well. One thing that stuck in my head is the iceberg sequence. From what I remember it was very well done and Horner's clanging percussion was a big part of that.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:20 AM
People are fascinated with Titanic the ship, not Titanic the movie. That's why the film remains successful. Of course, it is a very good movie nonetheless.
I'm fascinated with both. The movie certainly inspired me to learn about the reality of the thing. But I still love Cameron's take, which plays up the myths of the ship.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:21 AM
why?
the thing I find hilarious is that so many people talk about the screenplay. Basically it's their only argument, and it's not even theirs. They don't have their own thoughts, they're just talking heads running their mouths with someone elses statement and one that is often poorly backed up.
Cameron's script get the job done and it is rich with conviction. That is why it works. Yes it's cheesy at times and yes it's simplistic, but those things are its strength - the dialogue is true to the spirit of the deeply romantic and honest story.
You just get dickheads who want The Wire on a boat. Just so they can smile at their own reflection in the washroom after the movie.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:23 AM
There was a boat in the second season of The Wire, you know.Cameron's script get the job done and it is rich with conviction. That is why it works. Yes it's cheesy and yes it's simplistic, but those things are its strength - the dialogue is true to the spirit of the deeply romantic story.
You just get dickheads who want The Wire on a boat.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:28 AM
Jesus, I just had a horrible thought - imagine if Chris Nolan had made Titanic. Can you imagine the plot?! Ugh, it'd be a friggin' nightmare.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:29 AM
One thing that stuck in my head is the iceberg sequence. From what I remember it was very well done and Horner's clanging percussion was a big part of that.
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The scenes after are even better. With an almost Hitchcock like suspense. We know the ship is doomed, they don't...
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:34 AM
The part Karol mentioned is still scored by one of Horner's best action cues ever, though.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:47 AM
It's nice to see other people not hating on the film.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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I saw this when I was a kid and I can only remember fragmented images.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:49 AM
well Alex, Publicist and Prometheus are probably sleeping.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 01:10 AM
I rewatched Titanic a few months ago, and I was struck by I've always thought was one of Cameron's great strengths; the movie is incredibly well paced. It's totally engrossing, in spite of the vulgar script
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:52 AM
Lol at Merkel call the script vulgar without an ounce of reasoning behind his comment.
in other words be specific.
in other words be specific.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:06 AM
No, and don't be an idiot here, you know exactly what we're talking about. I'd give Night of the Hunter 4 out of 4 stars. It's worthy but it has moments that are not as good as other. At least the children's acting was superior to the overrated film To Kill A Mockingbird which gets alot of perfect scores but it features some truly horrific child acting, some of the worst ever in a big film.
I'm not denying that there's not a perfect film out there, just trying to clarify Steef's rating. I just find it odd to say something isn't perfect but to give it a perfect rating.
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Please stay. I think the discrepency is just a limitation of a 4 star scale. If he was rating from 1 to 10, he probably would have given it a 9
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:39 AM
well Alex, Publicist and Prometheus are probably sleeping.
I was, but TITANIC isn't anywhere on my anger-list. I'm not the biggest fan of Horner's tin whistles and fake choirs but you have to take the good with the bad.
You wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle Plans Are Here Again."
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 04:53 AM
a 15 year old movie made nearly as much as John Carter did
I want to see this movie just because of the distruption it caused with Disney Studio management.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button:
Two things that struck me during the film:
1) It felt like a Spielberg film. After the movie, the names of the producers Frank Marchall and Kathleen Kennedy appear on the screen.
2) I liked the score and I wondered who the composer was. After the movie, the name of Alexander Desplat appeared on the screen. It's the third time that this is happening to me. I notice the music, I like it, and each time it turns out to be Desplat. It happened with The Ghost Writer (I thought it was the best thing about the film) and it happened again with The King's Speech. Desplat's melodies often reminds me of John Williams. My favorite film/score moment is when old man and young girl are playing under the table.
The film itself is 'meh'. I mean, it's good but just not good enough. It's a variation on Forrest Gump.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:40 AM
It is such an empty film.
The thing about Horner's music is not that's it's the best composition in the world (it obviously isn't), but you have to admit it's hard to separate the film and its score. While some strange choices have been made (synths, bagpipes), It's almost a perfect marriage.
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well Alex, Publicist and Prometheus are probably sleeping.
I was, but TITANIC isn't anywhere on my anger-list. I'm not the biggest fan of Horner's tin whistles and fake choirs but you have to take the good with the bad.
The thing about Horner's music is not that's it's the best composition in the world (it obviously isn't), but you have to admit it's hard to separate the film and its score. While some strange choices have been made (synths, bagpipes), It's almost a perfect marriage.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:14 AM
Celine Dion ruined the score for me, My Heart Will Go On blasting from everywhere around the time the film was in the cinemas. I know the score has much more than the love theme but as soon as I hear first strains of it I tend to want to stop listening. Shame really since e.g. the departure music is pretty inventive Enya styled uplifting stuff.It is such an empty film.
well Alex, Publicist and Prometheus are probably sleeping.
I was, but TITANIC isn't anywhere on my anger-list. I'm not the biggest fan of Horner's tin whistles and fake choirs but you have to take the good with the bad.
The thing about Horner's music is not that's it's the best composition in the world (it obviously isn't), but you have to admit it's hard to separate the film and its score. While some strange choices have been made (synths, bagpipes), It's almost a perfect marriage.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:29 AM
I'm the same. I can't listen to it anymore.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:29 AM
Did Bryan Adams ruin Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves for you as well?
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:31 AM
A bit if I tell you the truth.Did Bryan Adams ruin Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves for you as well?
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I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:32 AM
No. That song (and melody) is still perfectly good and not cringy.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:37 AM
I generally do not like Kamen's injections of those Bryan Adams songs into his scores like in Robin Hood, Don Juan DeMarco and Three Musketeers. Robin Hood is the least offensive of those though.No. That song (and melody) is still perfectly good and not cringy.
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I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:42 AM
Didn't the score get written alongside Kamen' song (as sang by Adams)?
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:46 AM
Indeed they were a collaboration between Kamen and Adams. I guess it is the subconscious music snob in me that thinks those songs cheapen the score since, to coin a phrase from Datameister, they rub me the wrong way.Didn't the score get written alongside Kamen' song (as sang by Adams)?
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"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:55 AM
Did you know that these two songs are some of the biggest pop singles ever?
That explains hate.
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That explains hate.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:58 AM
Yes I knew it and so it makes sense why my inner music snob shuns them. Crass commercial success. Who needs it? Only boors that try to appeal to the masses enjoy such when true artistes toil and suffer in anonimity and penury.Did you know that these two songs are some of the biggest pop singles ever?
That explains hate.
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"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:11 AM
To be fair to Kamen, Adams is NOT Celine Dion. She's the veritable queen of cheesy music, so it's little wonder a great many can't stand My Heart Will Go On, justifiably so. I appreciate Horner's strong composition and the song does remain a guilty pleasure for me, but I wouldn't take issue with anyone who told me they hate it.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:48 AM
It's a great belter of a song!
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Some people take things way to seriously
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:51 AM
It certainly couldn't have been put to a better suited movie, that's for sure.
Anyway, I watched Red State. Started out as a really good grindhouse movie, the setup was perfect, but unfortunately it spent up early on on its genuinely gripping surprises and before long turned into just another shootout movie. Still, the first 45 mins are very impressive, coming from Kevin Smith. I'd like to see him dabble more outside of his comfort zone if this is what he's capable of. Nice to see John Goodman, too. 3/5.
Anyway, I watched Red State. Started out as a really good grindhouse movie, the setup was perfect, but unfortunately it spent up early on on its genuinely gripping surprises and before long turned into just another shootout movie. Still, the first 45 mins are very impressive, coming from Kevin Smith. I'd like to see him dabble more outside of his comfort zone if this is what he's capable of. Nice to see John Goodman, too. 3/5.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:03 AM
Lol at Merkel call the script vulgar without an ounce of reasoning behind his comment.
in other words be specific.
Joe, i mentioned some specifics in my review. Do you agree with them?
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:46 AM
It's a great belter of a song!
Some people take things way to seriously
Within the context of the film, I'm sure it's meant to be extremely seriously. At least, it's what I think most fans of the film and the music are taking it. I knew by hearing the song that the film was for a very broad audience and not for me.
Pictures, visual images, are far better to achieve that end than any words, particularly now, when the world has lost all mystery and magic and speech has become mere chatter, empty of meaning - Andrei Tarkovsky
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