Actually it is not so much about how great or bad My Heart Will Go On is, it is about over exposure and being all tired and burned out by it. Also I find it somewhat cloying.It's a great belter of a song!
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:28 PM
It's a good theme, but I can't stand Dion's voice with it.
Titanic is a good film. A very good film at its better moments. The script is uneven, with the love story somewhat meandering between pulled off rather well and overly cheesy. I understand that having it was necessary to give the second half the emotional impact it required, and it fully succeeds at that. I also like how its used to give a panorama of early 20th century society in the first half of the film. A couple of the specific scenes, as I recall, are too cheesy in an ultra Hollywood way. And I'll never get used to the painfully cheese dripping framing story, which wouldn't have been necessary for the film to work in the slightest, and at least for me completely ruins the ending. At its best moments in its second half, the film, without taking you out of the story, feels like watching a documentary. And *that's* pretty impressive.
Horner's score in the second half works very well and does a lot for the film. I don't get all that much out of it on CD, but it's certainly fine. The main moments in the first half, on the other hand, are mostly based on that synth choir pseudo Enya stuff. They should have just hired Enya. I like Book of Days, which was clearly what Horner was trying to copy. But his version of it sounds like a three year old sitting in front of a children's synth keyboard for the first time in his life and trying to play the Enya song. It seriously hurts several of the film's bigger scenes for me and may easily be the reason why many people find the film cheesier than it is and, not being as aware of film music as we are, go after the script instead.
By the way, I absolutely wanted to see it in 3D, but they only had evening showings of the undubbed version for one week here. Very annoying.
Titanic is a good film. A very good film at its better moments. The script is uneven, with the love story somewhat meandering between pulled off rather well and overly cheesy. I understand that having it was necessary to give the second half the emotional impact it required, and it fully succeeds at that. I also like how its used to give a panorama of early 20th century society in the first half of the film. A couple of the specific scenes, as I recall, are too cheesy in an ultra Hollywood way. And I'll never get used to the painfully cheese dripping framing story, which wouldn't have been necessary for the film to work in the slightest, and at least for me completely ruins the ending. At its best moments in its second half, the film, without taking you out of the story, feels like watching a documentary. And *that's* pretty impressive.
Horner's score in the second half works very well and does a lot for the film. I don't get all that much out of it on CD, but it's certainly fine. The main moments in the first half, on the other hand, are mostly based on that synth choir pseudo Enya stuff. They should have just hired Enya. I like Book of Days, which was clearly what Horner was trying to copy. But his version of it sounds like a three year old sitting in front of a children's synth keyboard for the first time in his life and trying to play the Enya song. It seriously hurts several of the film's bigger scenes for me and may easily be the reason why many people find the film cheesier than it is and, not being as aware of film music as we are, go after the script instead.
By the way, I absolutely wanted to see it in 3D, but they only had evening showings of the undubbed version for one week here. Very annoying.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:08 PM
And given Horner's reluctance to serve the fake choir aesthetic again on his usually very eclectic menu seems to confirm that he was cornered by Cameron into doing it...and Cameron got what he deserved: a very simplistic synth syncopation sounding cheap and underwritten. But in hindsight i think his instincts were right: he wanted to avoid a full-blown 'anachronistic' Hollywood score á la FAR AND AWAY because it would rob the movie of youth appeal, but the final execution just didn't get it completely right.
Given the crass RCP-leanings of AVATAR's score, we still got lucky with TITANIC. It may copy Enya badly, but at least it's a Horner original not soundung like warmed-over Bruckheimer.
Given the crass RCP-leanings of AVATAR's score, we still got lucky with TITANIC. It may copy Enya badly, but at least it's a Horner original not soundung like warmed-over Bruckheimer.
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Some parts of the Avatar score are great but it's overall too cold and distant for me.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:48 PM
that song is just terrible. but then it's bryan adams....gag.Did Bryan Adams ruin Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves for you as well?
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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No, I think the song is rather good. I don't really care that the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.
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The song is an outstanding composition, brilliantly performed by Adams. Is it syrupy? Yes.
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Saw Mission Impossible IV and Donnie Darko. Really enjoyed them both.
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Lol at Merkel call the script vulgar without an ounce of reasoning behind his comment.
in other words be specific.
Cardboard characters, cliche situations, lousy dialogue, black and white roles. The movie could be without dialogue and it would still work, That's a statement of great directing. But the screenplay doesn't elevate the movie in the any way. Cameron has always been a lousy writer
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you're just repeating what someone else repeated from someone else without an ounce of originalty or personal thought. How weak. You fail to make one point stick. If anything is vulgar it's your baseless criticism without the backing a single statement with actual points.
Lol at Merkel call the script vulgar without an ounce of reasoning behind his comment.
in other words be specific.
Cardboard characters, cliche situations, lousy dialogue, black and white roles. The movie could be without dialogue and it would still work, That's a statement of great directing. But the screenplay doesn't elevate the movie in the any way. Cameron has always been a lousy writer
come on Merkel you can do better. Here let me help
Zane was a cad with little dimension.
The dialogue was too modern,
No one flipped the bird in 1912.
The acting was stilted, no one stood out.
Of course none of the 4 statements are accurate.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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No one flipped the bird in 1912.
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Of course none of the 4 statements are accurate.
Indeed.
1886, by the way.
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you're just repeating what someone else repeated from someone else without an ounce of originalty or personal thought. How weak. You fail to make one point stick. If anything is vulgar it's your baseless criticism without the backing a single statement with actual points.
Lol at Merkel call the script vulgar without an ounce of reasoning behind his comment.
in other words be specific.
Cardboard characters, cliche situations, lousy dialogue, black and white roles. The movie could be without dialogue and it would still work, That's a statement of great directing. But the screenplay doesn't elevate the movie in the any way. Cameron has always been a lousy writer
come on Merkel you can do better. Here let me help
Zane was a cad with little dimension.
The dialogue was too modern,
No one flipped the bird in 1912.
The acting was stilted, no one stood out.
Of course none of the 4 statements are accurate.
I'm sorry, Joe, I'm a lousy critic and can do little else besides repeating critiscism clichés (and I really mean that). I as cliched a writer as Cameron himself
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Cameron has always been a lousy writer
I was fine with everything else you said, it's your opinion, but the last part irked me, as it always does. That's because it's fucking bullshit.
Seriously, Cameron co-wrote three of the greatest and most important sci-fi movies of the twentieth century and some little cretin on the internet claims he's a lousy writer? Get out of it! To this day, Aliens alone remains one of the - if not THE most quotable movie ever made; and you call its writer lousy. Yeah, right. What - you think a bunch of marines swearing at each other and waving dicks about doesn't constitute good, memorable writing? It's not sofisticated enough? You think that's all there is to it? You're wrong. That script is one of the wittiest, sharpest and thoroughly gripping war yarns ever. An utterly authentic boys own adventure set in space, worded with panache and an absolute hunger to entertain. Almost every single line is pure gold, indeed: that script is an outright icon of the genre and here you are calling its writer lousy. Lol
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The Terminator is one of my very favourite love stories. And The Abyss is one of my very favourite adventures in film.
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I entitled to have wrong opinions, I do it far too often, but I don't think being called a cretin was called for...
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I apologise for that. But I just tire of internet injustices which are so often chucked about with little regard or thought, that's all.
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I'm not criticizing the movies themselves, I still think they are, for the most part, endlessly entertaining. Nor was I criticizing the plot constrution. But I still don't think Cameron writes good dialogue. It does not make a single character stand out, IMHO.
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I don't mind you having that opinion, I just wanted you to back it up. We all have opinions we can't I know that but with Titanic I know you well enough over the years with your posting that you could be more precise.I entitled to have wrong opinions, I do it far too often, but I don't think being called a cretin was called for...
but after Quint's last couple of post all I can say about this subject is GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER.
btw I must say that in Titanic I love the line "I'd rather be his whore than your wife". Man don't you know when you've been insulted and you've struggled for a great retort and none is forthcoming only to have several hours pass before you come up with one but the moments passed, well all I can say is good for you Rose.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Well, I'll refrain from posting in this topic, since I don't think I can add anything relevant to this discussion
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:34 PM
I think whether Cameron is a good or bad writer is irrelevant. It's the spectacle and showmanship that makes his movies. He's good in that, probably better than anybody else at the moment. Definitely.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:39 PM
Depends on how you define spectacle. Avatar is no better than Transformers to me. It has action and special effects galore, but it lacks everything else necessary to make a good film.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:40 PM
No, I disagree, Karol. In the cases of The Terminator, Aliens and Terminator 2, the writing is every bit as important as what is physically on screen. T1 in particular was pretty much entirely reliant on its high-concept grim sci-fi verbosity and peculiarly naturalistic penmanship. That, and Arnie.
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I didn't say script doesn't play a role. But it's very simple most of the time, stripped to its core almost.
Oh I don't know, for me there is a big difference between those. I don't like either of them, but at least Cameron knows how to orchestrate a big blockbuster.
That's the analogy there: he's not a great composer, but terrific orchestrator.
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Depends on how you define spectacle. Avatar is no better than Transformers to me. It has action and special effects galore, but it lacks everything else necessary to make a good film.
Oh I don't know, for me there is a big difference between those. I don't like either of them, but at least Cameron knows how to orchestrate a big blockbuster.
That's the analogy there: he's not a great composer, but terrific orchestrator.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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I didn't say script doesn't play a role. But it's very simple most of the time, stripped to its core almost.
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Deceptively simple, yes. Supremely economical and comprehensively efficient is what they are. These are thrillers, after all. Maybe this is why I find Cameron the perfect antidote to someone like Chris Nolan.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:48 PM
I knew you'd say that! 
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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You can always bet on my consistency
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if I found myself in a Chris Nolan film I'd hope that I'd dream in James Cameron.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Inception. Ugh. What a drag of a movie that was.
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but Quint we are supposed to love it. LOVE IT.
but I didn't.
but I didn't.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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In the end, you'll bow before Nolan!
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:56 PM
His Batman movies are excellent, I gladly admit that. Much better than The Avengers and its like.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:00 PM
What did you think about The Prestige, Quint?
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:03 PM
The only other Nolan I've seen is Insomnia. I remember really wanting to see Memento back in the day, but Blockbuster refused to stock it at the time and so that ship eventually sailed.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:11 PM
Watch them, they're worth it. Memento in particular is a very film. The Prestige, on the other, hand may be my favourite.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:21 PM
In the end, you'll bow before Nolan!
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no, dislike memento, the prestige, insomnia and batman begins, did I leave anything out. I loved TDK.
I think Nolan leaves much to be desired when it come to action, but he's a decent visual storyteller
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:24 PM
Memento is his best film, followed by Insomnia and The Prestige.
Nolan is best when he's doing his own thing, although Insomnia is a remake.
Nolan is best when he's doing his own thing, although Insomnia is a remake.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:27 PM
In the last week:
The Cabin in the Woods- I'm not a horror aficionado, but I am a huge Joss Whedon fanboy, and I was thoroughly satisfied. Big congrats to Whedon/JJ Abrams protoge Drew Goddard, who actually directed it, for nailing his first feature.
Mission Impossibe IV- Eh. Kick ass Giacchino score. The movie was in parts engaging, in parts tedious. The whole Kremlin sequence was good, and the double impersonation meetings in the Dubai hotel was extremely well done. Simon Pegg remains one of the most entertaining men in the world, no matter what he's doing.
The Cabin in the Woods- I'm not a horror aficionado, but I am a huge Joss Whedon fanboy, and I was thoroughly satisfied. Big congrats to Whedon/JJ Abrams protoge Drew Goddard, who actually directed it, for nailing his first feature.
Mission Impossibe IV- Eh. Kick ass Giacchino score. The movie was in parts engaging, in parts tedious. The whole Kremlin sequence was good, and the double impersonation meetings in the Dubai hotel was extremely well done. Simon Pegg remains one of the most entertaining men in the world, no matter what he's doing.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:28 PM
You forgot about Following. A iterally no-budget black & white 70-minute film noir, shot on weekends with amateur group of friends (who all worked full time as well) over a year, I think. They didn't get enough film to shoot second takes so everything was rehearsed to death. It has already all the elements of his style and as such is very impressive.
Karol
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:45 PM
I forgot about that; haven't seen it. Robert Rodriguez's early TV movie Roadracers just got released on Blu, maybe this isn't too far off.You forgot about Following. A iterally no-budget black & white 70-minute film noir, shot on weekends with amateur group of friends (who all worked full time as well) over a year, I think. They didn't get enough film to shoot second takes so everything was rehearsed to death. It has already all the elements of his style and as such is very impressive.
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