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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:50 AM
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:41 PM
The Social Network
This films tries to do several things at once and somehow succeeds.
The first half of the film is great. Then, despite some cool moments, it becomes way less interesting. The film is brilliant when it tries to be a character piece with some of the lawsuit as background, but when it turns the lawsuit part into the important thread I get bored, because the problems of these characters could be how fucked up their are as people, but other than that they don't have real problems. Until it got there it was wonderfully watchable, though.
For example. There's this asocial character who betrays his only friend. That's interesting. The whole social network thing. The fake friends. But a drama is made of how little Eduardo owns of the company. Are you kidding me? He still has more money 99% percent of the viewers will ever see in their life! This is why Batman movies are about Batman and not about Bruce Wayne... It's the Batman part that's dramatic.
David Fincher is amazing. He tells almost word by word a 161 page script in 120 minutes. The cinematography and the editing is great.
I don't like the ending. Maybe there's something going on in that scene that I didn't get? (I noticed some themes that reappeared again through the film, it was clever.) Overall I get the sense that this material could have gone further.
The score doesn't hurt the film at all. I was expecting something unlistenable after all that flack.
Then, a completely different film...
A History of Violence
I was hugely entertained. However I was not satisfied. I'll read the book and see what happens.
I have to idea about firearm shootouts but I get the impression that the main character could (should?) have been killed like two or three times.
This films tries to do several things at once and somehow succeeds.
The first half of the film is great. Then, despite some cool moments, it becomes way less interesting. The film is brilliant when it tries to be a character piece with some of the lawsuit as background, but when it turns the lawsuit part into the important thread I get bored, because the problems of these characters could be how fucked up their are as people, but other than that they don't have real problems. Until it got there it was wonderfully watchable, though.
For example. There's this asocial character who betrays his only friend. That's interesting. The whole social network thing. The fake friends. But a drama is made of how little Eduardo owns of the company. Are you kidding me? He still has more money 99% percent of the viewers will ever see in their life! This is why Batman movies are about Batman and not about Bruce Wayne... It's the Batman part that's dramatic.
David Fincher is amazing. He tells almost word by word a 161 page script in 120 minutes. The cinematography and the editing is great.
I don't like the ending. Maybe there's something going on in that scene that I didn't get? (I noticed some themes that reappeared again through the film, it was clever.) Overall I get the sense that this material could have gone further.
The score doesn't hurt the film at all. I was expecting something unlistenable after all that flack.
Then, a completely different film...
A History of Violence
I was hugely entertained. However I was not satisfied. I'll read the book and see what happens.
I have to idea about firearm shootouts but I get the impression that the main character could (should?) have been killed like two or three times.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 03:22 PM
Secret World of Arriety
For an animation studio whose hallmark is their stunning animation, Studio Ghibli really outdid themselves with this film. The interiors of the main house, Arriety's home, and the dollhouse are brimming with detail, subtle touches and this is worth several viewings alone just to soak up all those details. And for the umpteenth adaptation of "The Borrowers", this film finds a way to tell it in a fresh and engaging way.
Cecile Corbel's score is unusual and evocative. It's not trying to ape Joe Hisaishi's style, but it's more of a minimalistic score. It's quite effective and supports the dreamy, gorgeous visuals well.
For an animation studio whose hallmark is their stunning animation, Studio Ghibli really outdid themselves with this film. The interiors of the main house, Arriety's home, and the dollhouse are brimming with detail, subtle touches and this is worth several viewings alone just to soak up all those details. And for the umpteenth adaptation of "The Borrowers", this film finds a way to tell it in a fresh and engaging way.
Cecile Corbel's score is unusual and evocative. It's not trying to ape Joe Hisaishi's style, but it's more of a minimalistic score. It's quite effective and supports the dreamy, gorgeous visuals well.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:08 PM
Secret World of Arriety
For an animation studio whose hallmark is their stunning animation, Studio Ghibli really outdid themselves with this film. The interiors of the main house, Arriety's home, and the dollhouse are brimming with detail, subtle touches and this is worth several viewings alone just to soak up all those details. And for the umpteenth adaptation of "The Borrowers", this film finds a way to tell it in a fresh and engaging way.
Cecile Corbel's score is unusual and evocative. It's not trying to ape Joe Hisaishi's style, but it's more of a minimalistic score. It's quite effective and supports the dreamy, gorgeous visuals well.
Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:32 PM
Theoretically I wanted to see Arriety but I can't get myself to do so.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:09 PM
The film is brilliant when it tries to be a character piece with some of the lawsuit as background, but when it turns the lawsuit part into the important thread I get bored, because the problems of these characters could be how fucked up their are as people, but other than that they don't have real problems. Until it got there it was wonderfully watchable, though.
Hmm, I didn't experience it that way. I was absorbed with the film from A to Z. I liked the ending too (not a climax but a start). One of Fincher's best, IMO.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:15 PM
It's still in my head. I might see it again.
Wonderful cast btw.
Wonderful cast btw.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:19 PM
Loved Timberlake's contribution. I bought the Blu-ray for Jeff Cronenweth's photography alone.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:38 PM
We're watching the 4 MI films, doing a MI marathon. Tom Cruise is a very good actor but he can be annoying and while he's nice looking he's less interesting with long hair.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:39 PM
I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:53 PM
Loved Timberlake's contribution. I bought the Blu-ray for Jeff Cronenweth's photography alone.
Timberlake made me laugh and want to punch him at the same time. Interesting character.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:29 PM
I would never connect the two and still don't. Cruise has so much more than Bradley Cooper ever has. I do like Cooper but Cruise has owned the business for over 3 decadesI've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:54 PM
What I meant is I find Cruise to be incredibly smug in MI.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:57 PM
okay I see what you are saying.
Mission Impossible II is not very good and all the blame falls directly on John Woo's horrible direction.
Mission Impossible II is not very good and all the blame falls directly on John Woo's horrible direction.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:30 AM
4th MI is awesome and Tom Cruise is getting better being Ethan Hunt with each successive films.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:34 AM
I like smug Cruise. "Yes sir, you gotta love this town!" Or Lestat in Interview with the Vampire, his definitive role.What I meant is I find Cruise to be incredibly smug in MI.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:19 AM
Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?
Spirited Away wins, hands down. My first viewing of it, after it got a nationwide expansion with the Oscar nomination, was sublime. It's still quite arresting and evocative, along with the typical Miyazaki touches. But comparing it to Arrietty is apples and oranges. It's more sedate and grounded, more along the lines of My Neighbor Totoro.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:48 AM
I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.
Somehow the first one is the best. What about Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky, Eyes Wide Shut or the films where smugness is an important part of the role he's playing?
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:30 AM
Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?
Spirited Away wins, hands down. My first viewing of it, after it got a nationwide expansion with the Oscar nomination, was sublime. It's still quite arresting and evocative, along with the typical Miyazaki touches. But comparing it to Arrietty is apples and oranges. It's more sedate and grounded, more along the lines of My Neighbor Totoro.
Cool. Have you seen Grave of the Fireflies?
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:29 AM
I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.
Somehow the first one is the best. What about Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky, Eyes Wide Shut or the films where smugness is an important part of the role he's playing?
Initially yes, it's probably the reason he was cast in both - he's incredibly smooth and self-satisfied in those movies; before the world he's created for himself closes in and utterly tumbles down around him - exposing him as a vulnerable and frightened man on the edge. In the masterful Eyes Wide Shut, Cruise is outstanding in that regard - Kubrick seems to enjoy placing him situations which make him look weak and out of his depth - and Cruise embraces it. He's a brilliant, brilliant actor, there's no doubt about that in my mind.
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Cruise is amazing. Eyes wide shut did not receive enough kudos
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:35 AM
Oh it will.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:41 AM
Initially yes, it's probably the reason he was cast in both - he's incredibly smooth and self-satisfied in those movies; before the world he's created for himself closes in and utterly tumbles down around him - exposing him as a vulnerable and frightened man on the edge. In the masterful Eyes Wide Shut, Cruise is outstanding in that regard - Kubrick seems to enjoy placing him situations which make him look weak and out of his depth - and Cruise embraces it. He's a brilliant, brilliant actor, there's no doubt about that in my mind.
I agree
Cruise is amazing. Eyes wide shut did not receive enough kudos
I agree again!
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:05 AM
Which reminds me that I need to get it on Blu.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:34 AM
Heard bad things about the Blu-ray and that many Kubrick fans prefer the DVD version so I stick to my DVD for the time being.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:48 AM
Oh, thank for the heads up actually.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:29 PM
Eyes Wide Shut is a brilliant and mesmerizing film and it's a head-scratcher why it didn't receive critical acclaim at the time of its release. And while Cruise does a great job, Kidman steals the show for me.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:32 PM
Yeah... Hmmm, I just can't agree with that. Kidman was very effective in it for sure, but for me the film is owned by Cruise (and Kubrick's mind boggling direction). I can't even imagine likening the movie without Cruise being the lead.
And the way that sparse score taunts him throughout, well... it's movie heaven for me.
And the way that sparse score taunts him throughout, well... it's movie heaven for me.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:55 PM
I agree with Quint again. What's wrong with me?!
It's not the first time people need some time before they can appreciate his films. I didn't love EWS the first couple of times either.
Eyes Wide Shut is a brilliant and mesmerizing film and it's a head-scratcher why it didn't receive critical acclaim at the time of its release.
It's not the first time people need some time before they can appreciate his films. I didn't love EWS the first couple of times either.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:58 PM
I haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut yet.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 03:06 PM
Currently it's at number 2 in my Kubrick top 10.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 04:40 PM
It is the only one I like.
Perhaps The Shining also.
Perhaps The Shining also.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 04:56 PM
The only Kubrick that I like is Full Metal Jacket.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:57 PM
Interesting how people only like one movie when they all have Kubrick's signature (save for Spartacus perhaps).
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:05 PM
I've only seen 2001, Dr Strangelove and Spartacus. I love the first two, and I greatly enjoyed Spartacus while I was a kid.
I wish Kubrick had written Spartacus.
I really need to see the others...
I wish Kubrick had written Spartacus.
I really need to see the others...
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:08 PM
Dr. strangelove - Love it
2001 - One of the best films ever
A Clockwork Organge - Fantastic
The Shining - Uneven, but chilling at times
Full Metal Jacket - That first half is simply awesome
Eyes Wide Shut - Very sexy, without resorting to Verhoeven-like vulgarity. Good film.
Did not see his others.
2001 - One of the best films ever
A Clockwork Organge - Fantastic
The Shining - Uneven, but chilling at times
Full Metal Jacket - That first half is simply awesome
Eyes Wide Shut - Very sexy, without resorting to Verhoeven-like vulgarity. Good film.
Did not see his others.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:24 PM
It's been said many times here by myself and others, and I will say it again, the opening credits to Superman are unmatched.
Watching it in the original theatrical sound. All the others are altered and sound wrong. Sometimes a restoration goes wrong and the replacement of the original sound was a crime against film.
Watching it in the original theatrical sound. All the others are altered and sound wrong. Sometimes a restoration goes wrong and the replacement of the original sound was a crime against film.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:43 PM
Dr. Strangelove - Never saw it, but it's on my unwritten list of movies that I want to see but haven't. It might help if I wrote the list down somewhere.
2001 - I watched it once and once was probably enough. It's like watching paint dry.
A Clockwork Orange - Never saw it, and not sure if it's on my list.
The Shining - I've seen enough bits and pieces to know there's no reason to watch the whole thing.
Full Metal Jacket - I know people who think the first half IS the entire movie, and the second half in Vietnam is just tacked on. It feels that way sometimes, but this film is eminently quotable, very funny, but in the end, soul-stirring and gut wrenching. It'll rip your eyes out and make love to your skull.
Eyes Wide Shut - I'd rather watch a porno than see Tom Cruise in an orgy and fret over his marriage to Nicole Kidman, again. I've seen this once to see what the hype was about, that was too much.
Spartacus - The DVD is on the shelf back home but I haven't moved it into the player and hit play yet.
Did not see his others.
2001 - I watched it once and once was probably enough. It's like watching paint dry.
A Clockwork Orange - Never saw it, and not sure if it's on my list.
The Shining - I've seen enough bits and pieces to know there's no reason to watch the whole thing.
Full Metal Jacket - I know people who think the first half IS the entire movie, and the second half in Vietnam is just tacked on. It feels that way sometimes, but this film is eminently quotable, very funny, but in the end, soul-stirring and gut wrenching. It'll rip your eyes out and make love to your skull.
Eyes Wide Shut - I'd rather watch a porno than see Tom Cruise in an orgy and fret over his marriage to Nicole Kidman, again. I've seen this once to see what the hype was about, that was too much.
Spartacus - The DVD is on the shelf back home but I haven't moved it into the player and hit play yet.
Did not see his others.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:46 PM
The ones I want to see the most are The Shining and Paths of Glory.
Izena duen guztia omen da.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 07:03 PM
2001 and A Clockwork Orange. Put there also Godfathers and The Apocalypse.Now.
Here is a perfect list of the most over-rated films ever.
I couldn't even sit 2001 through because I don't do drugs.
Here is a perfect list of the most over-rated films ever.
I couldn't even sit 2001 through because I don't do drugs.
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