#3561
Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:14 AM
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#3562
Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:37 AM
~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore
#3563
Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:02 AM
I haven't found a reason to appreciate it. Someday I might watch it again.
For what it's worth, it completely engrossed me in the theater. The editing and cinematography are wonderful, as are the costumes. JGL is as sharp as ever. I remember you and others saying the dreams were boring but I found them exhilarating. The third act had me on the edge of my seat, and I don't think I ever wanted anything to happen in a film as badly as I wanted
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#3565
Posted 12 July 2012 - 03:42 AM
#3566
Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:56 AM
It's just so good-natured and adorable, all the performances are great (yeah, Bruce Willis putting effort into something... when's the last time that happened?), the characters they play are all compelling, and the story's told with energy and a perfect pace.
Not a huge fan of hyperbole, but... there is no legitimate reason someone could hate this movie. NONE. AT ALL.
#3567
Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:57 AM
I'm curious of this film. Snyder's, that is.
As far as TDKR goes. I hope it's good. Being a Nolan fan, I will probably enjoy it much more than you. At the very least.
Karol
Well, let's face it, with TDKR (recordable), we already know we're going to be lectured about the dangers of terrosism but we are in the dark when it comes to Man Of Steel. How does a reboot of a traditional, old-fashioned superhero going to be like? Will it work? Can he fly without Williams' theme? Will the style lean towards neorealism (Nolanesque) or will it be pure, unadulterated Zack Snyder's Expressionism? And so on so forth.
Alex
#3568
Posted 12 July 2012 - 09:49 AM
#3569
Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:49 PM
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
#3570
Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:52 PM
I saw Moonrise Kingdom earlier today.
It's just so good-natured and adorable, all the performances are great (yeah, Bruce Willis putting effort into something... when's the last time that happened?), the characters they play are all compelling, and the story's told with energy and a perfect pace.
Not a huge fan of hyperbole, but... there is no legitimate reason someone could hate this movie. NONE. AT ALL.
Agreed, I enjoyed it quite a lot. Some really nice filmmaking touches, too. Loved the opening credits sequence to bits--nice use of music throughout the film.
#3572
Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:32 PM
#3573
Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:35 PM
finding nemo - 8.5/10
my cheeks hurt from smiling too much and my skin feels weird after all the goose bumps caused by newman's brilliance. might be my favorite pixar film.
Finding Nemo might be your favourite Pixar film but you only gave it a 8.5?!? 9.5 more like it....
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#3574
Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:38 PM
#3575
Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:38 PM
~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore
#3577
Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:52 PM
Ya, I accidentally missed the Pixar part. That's whats shocking. Your favourite Pixar film (we're talking about the pre-Cars 2 Pixar here) is only an 8.5? That's pretty tough....Favourite Pixar film...
I adore Finding Nemo and I'd give it a 9.5/10. It's amongst my top 3 Pixar films.
Finding Nemo might be your favourite film but you only gave it a 8.5?!? 9.5 more like it....
I never said that
I meant Pixar Alice. Curse typos...you have one of those online and everything goes wrong!
What I basically meant to say is 8.5 is too low a rating to give to your favourite Pixar film
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#3578
Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:02 AM
Ya, I accidentally missed the Pixar part. That's whats shocking. Your favourite Pixar film (we're talking about the pre-Cars 2 Pixar here) is only an 8.5? That's pretty tough....
Favourite Pixar film...
I adore Finding Nemo and I'd give it a 9.5/10. It's amongst my top 3 Pixar films.
to be honest, I was going to give it 8.8 but I changed my mind in the last second for some reason.
and I don't know if I'd even give my all-time favorite film a 10. maybe a 9.5 or 9.6. and then 8.5 is pretty damn good.
#3579
Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:08 AM
Apologies for the confusion. I often look at pre-Cars 2 Pixar very highly.
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#3580
Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:15 AM
I'm not the biggest fan of Pixar but i have to admit that the first half of Wall-E was near to perfection(big thanks to Snoozeman). Well
the second part dropped it to be just quite a great animated movie.
#3581
Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:51 AM
Izena duen guztia omen da.
#3582
Posted 13 July 2012 - 01:10 AM
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#3583
Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:41 AM
Try Angels in America. It might just be my favourite Snoozeman score. It combines his lush and beautiful orchestral writing while taking the best of his eclectic side.
It definitely makes for an excellent survey of Newman's career up to that point.
#3584
Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:24 PM
finding nemo - 8.5/10
my cheeks hurt from smiling too much and my skin feels weird after all the goose bumps caused by newman's brilliance. might be my favorite pixar film.
My favourite Pixar movie. First viewing I was like, "meh." Second time around I was like, "aww shiiiiiiiiit."
#3585
Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:46 PM
Was doing some light drinking with a friend last night, and we watched about an hour each of The Hangover Part II and The Thing (2011). What terrible films, the both of them. Former wasn't even remotely funny, and just plain boring. Latter was typical contemporary horror gorefest with poor CGI.
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#3586
Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:46 AM
And I love how Walter Murphy's score plays it straight. Very lush for the most part, interspersed with that big jazzy sound McFarlane and Murphy did well on FG. In fact, I think Ted is one of the best scores of 2012. Anyone who doesn't think that clearly haven't seen the film or listened to the soundtrack.
#3587
Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:57 AM
I appreciate this film much more. I still prefer the Dark Knight. I think it's more straight forward story telling.
I think tomorrow I'll have to watch Superman the Movie. It's a film Nolan said he drew inspiration from for Batman Begins.
I want to watch it because I like the lighter aspects of it. It's not as dark or brooding but at it's heart it features a villain who is so ruthless but so likable that you don't ever fear him to the degree that you probably should.
Before we go see Dark Knight Rises we'll see the Dark Knight just to be completely caught up.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#3588
Posted 14 July 2012 - 06:24 AM
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
#3589
Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:00 AM

4/10
Alex
#3590
Posted 14 July 2012 - 05:54 PM
Warning review by a Trekkie!
Now it has to be said that from a story and concept perspective, this movie has some severe issues. The previous one The Undiscovered Country already functioned as a farewell movie for the TOS crew. So if they were gonna bring Kirk back for yet another big farewell, it would have to be epic
The main problem is The Nexus. An place were time has no meaning and only eternal bliss exists. The concept of it doesn't really work in this film. Not only is it a do-over of the Wormhole/Celestial Temple from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (a concept that worked far better). The nexus never feels like anything more then a sci-fi trick to get Kirk and Picard together.
But it's not just bad science, it's also bad fiction. For instance it's almost impossible to get into the Nexus, yet you can leave whenever you want to? Would the energy ribbon not be a problem both ways?
Also the mis-en scene inside the Nexus is dodgy. Picard's dream family look like something out a a Dickens novel. Horribly snotty and unappealing children and a novelty Christmas house. It's laughable. Stewart is great in the scene though.
Guinan shows up, and tells us that she actually never left the Nexus. Which makes sense since time is meaningless there. So if you go in once, and leave....you actually stay forever. This does mean that Soran is actually already inside the Nexus he's trying to get back into. We never see Soran in the Nexus. Would he melt with the Soran that's already there? Would the two of them be containing in an eternal struggle like Lazarus in TOS' The Alternative Factor? Soran and anti-Soran locked in combat.... We will never know.
Shatner returns for the last time (in cinema) as James T. Kirk. He's great to watch as ever. With the usual Shatnerian swagger. But it does feel like an extended cameo. He really is kinda tagged on at the end of the picture. And the death scene is unworthy of such an iconic character.
Patrick Stewart makes his first cinema appearance as Jean Luc Picard. It's actually interesting seeing the two contrasting acting styles of the two actors in once film. Stewart has always had a less is more approach to his portrayal. He is strong in a film that doesn't always give him good material. He definitely gets the best line in the film. "This is not your bedroom?"
Brent Spiner has fun with his Data full of emotions. Seeing the android laughing his ass of or crying should not work, but it does.
The legendary Malcolm McDowell plays yet another villian. It's a decent performance in a somewhat underwritten role.
Barbara March and Gwyneth Walsh are devilishly over the top at the Duras Sisters.
Walter Koenig and James Dooham return in cameo's in the opening scene that features the depressed kid from Ferris Bueller as Captain of The Enterprise. It's weird hearing Scotty spouting out TNG style techno babble.
The first Star Trek TOS movie flaunted The Enterprise. Gave it a big 6 minute introduction. Generations fails to make any fuss over the fact that it's iconic ship can be seen in glorious cinema. The first view of The Enterprise D is when it approaches the Armagosa observatory, and it's a bog standard shot that just shows a bit of the saucer section. Many other shots look like they were updated from the TV show. Apart from the scene were it crashes there isn't really a single time that they "show off" The Enterprise. Did the makers really not think we didn't want to see the D in it's full majesty before they destroyed her? (the next film, First Contact shows us the newer, less beautiful ship in full detail).
The special effects are generally outstanding though
The film looks good. Filmed by John A. Alonzo the interior at least looks beautiful. Particularly when lit by the Armagosa star.
The pacing is good, the direction by David Carson is workman-like but solid. And the space battle is well shot. The final crash of the saucer section is spectacular.
This film is Dennis McCarthy's lone Star Trek film outing. I've always been a fan of his style on Star Trek. This score is an extension of that, but with actual themes. His main theme is a solid entry into the world of Star Trek themes. His Nexus music is soothing and beautiful and his action music is positively propulsive. The orchestrations are as ever superb. It's really an underrated score that has had too many people crapping all over it. It's far more a Star Trek score then Gia's effort will ever be.
This film has many good moment, many good scenes. but it's based on a rather silly and misguided notion that they needed to have Kirk in it...and that Kirk needed to die.
**1/2 out of ****
#3591
Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:21 PM
Again, it's beautifully rich on the eyes. I may be overlooking an obvious example, but is this movie THE reddest ever filmed or what?



I wish more movies looked as thick with crimson and shadow as this.
#3592
Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:24 PM
~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore
#3594
Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:36 PM
My favourite Pixar movie. First viewing I was like, "meh." Second time around I was like, "aww shiiiiiiiiit."
yessssss!
~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore
#3595
Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:41 PM
Has anyone seen The Artist? I am thinking about renting it tonight but trying to decide if it is worth it or not.
#3597
Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:58 PM
It's also a great introduction to those people who don't watch silent films.
#3598
Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:10 PM
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
#3599
Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:50 PM
Lot of teal and orange in the pictures above Ren.
not enough teal
~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore
#3600
Posted 15 July 2012 - 01:37 AM
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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