Jump to content


Photo

What Is The Last Film You Watched?

Movie Talk

  • Please log in to reply
7830 replies to this topic

#3561 Joey

Joey

    I am the First of many

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 22896 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Not Arizona

Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:14 AM

I haven't found a reason to appreciate it. Someday I might watch it again.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!

"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.

#3562 Ren

Ren

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 8089 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:37 AM

I use to have inception on blu ray. Then the divorce happened..........

~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore


#3563 Koray Savas

Koray Savas

    Grandest Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 27770 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Maryland

Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:02 AM

I haven't found a reason to appreciate it. Someday I might watch it again.


For what it's worth, it completely engrossed me in the theater. The editing and cinematography are wonderful, as are the costumes. JGL is as sharp as ever. I remember you and others saying the dreams were boring but I found them exhilarating. The third act had me on the edge of my seat, and I don't think I ever wanted anything to happen in a film as badly as I wanted
Spoiler
It's not a perfect film, but I enjoyed the hell out of it.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


#3564 Stefancos

Stefancos

    The Road Goes Ever On And On

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 53415 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hoorn, The Netherlands, Europe, Planet Earth

Posted 12 July 2012 - 03:34 AM

I use to have inception on blu ray. Then the divorce happened..........


Something to be grateful for then. ;)

GWWQ86m_zpse31a9fba.jpg

 


#3565 Hlao-roo

Hlao-roo

    Rank Sentimentalist

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 5016 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 July 2012 - 03:42 AM

I liked Inception and appreciated its relative originality, but I enjoyed Waking Life and The Science of Sleep more.

#3566 Miles Prower

Miles Prower

    Deserved the Best Picture win

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1222 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Genesis Planet

Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:56 AM

I saw Moonrise Kingdom earlier today.

It's just so good-natured and adorable, all the performances are great (yeah, Bruce Willis putting effort into something... when's the last time that happened?), the characters they play are all compelling, and the story's told with energy and a perfect pace.

Not a huge fan of hyperbole, but... there is no legitimate reason someone could hate this movie. NONE. AT ALL.
Posted Image

#3567 Alexcremers

Alexcremers

    Grand Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16448 posts

Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:57 AM

I'm curious of this film. Snyder's, that is.

As far as TDKR goes. I hope it's good. Being a Nolan fan, I will probably enjoy it much more than you. At the very least.

Karol


Well, let's face it, with TDKR (recordable), we already know we're going to be lectured about the dangers of terrosism but we are in the dark when it comes to Man Of Steel. How does a reboot of a traditional, old-fashioned superhero going to be like? Will it work? Can he fly without Williams' theme? Will the style lean towards neorealism (Nolanesque) or will it be pure, unadulterated Zack Snyder's Expressionism? And so on so forth.


Alex
Pictures, visual images, are far better to achieve that end than any words, particularly now, when the world has lost all mystery and magic and speech has become mere chatter, empty of meaning - Andrei Tarkovsky

#3568 BloodBoal

BloodBoal

    A Very Respectable Messenger

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 9146 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 July 2012 - 09:49 AM

Superman won't fly in this film, I tell thee! This will be the story of a hack who wants to attract attention to himself by wearing flashy colors and uses wires to pretend he can fly. He will be a tortured character, who will asks deep and profound questions such as: "Is it better to be loved for who I am, or for who I want to be?" or "Do people need a superhero, or is it the superhero who needs the people?"

#3569 Wojo

Wojo

    Grand Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17758 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:49 PM

I think he should stick a feather in his nose, personally.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


#3570 Delorean90

Delorean90

    No, it's just a coincidence.

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3184 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Louisville

Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

I saw Moonrise Kingdom earlier today.

It's just so good-natured and adorable, all the performances are great (yeah, Bruce Willis putting effort into something... when's the last time that happened?), the characters they play are all compelling, and the story's told with energy and a perfect pace.

Not a huge fan of hyperbole, but... there is no legitimate reason someone could hate this movie. NONE. AT ALL.


Agreed, I enjoyed it quite a lot. Some really nice filmmaking touches, too. Loved the opening credits sequence to bits--nice use of music throughout the film.

#3571 alicebrallice

alicebrallice

    Frequent Poster

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1701 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Sweden

Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:27 PM

finding nemo - 8.5/10

my cheeks hurt from smiling too much and my skin feels weird after all the goose bumps caused by newman's brilliance. might be my favorite pixar film.

#3572 Pasi Tiitinen

Pasi Tiitinen

    Enthusiastic Home Brewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4388 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Finland

Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

Newman is damn good with this and Wall E. I like the guy.

#3573 KK.

KK.

    Rich in Fish!

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4442 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:35 PM

finding nemo - 8.5/10

my cheeks hurt from smiling too much and my skin feels weird after all the goose bumps caused by newman's brilliance. might be my favorite pixar film.


Finding Nemo might be your favourite Pixar film but you only gave it a 8.5?!? 9.5 more like it....

#3574 Pasi Tiitinen

Pasi Tiitinen

    Enthusiastic Home Brewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4388 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Finland

Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:38 PM

Favourite Pixar film...

#3575 Ren

Ren

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 8089 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:38 PM

I love nemo. I used to have it on in the house everyday. Those days may be coming back.

~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore


#3576 alicebrallice

alicebrallice

    Frequent Poster

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1701 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Sweden

Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:49 PM

Newman is damn good with this and Wall E. I like the guy.


and the flawlessness of your taste knows no bounds.

Finding Nemo might be your favourite film but you only gave it a 8.5?!? 9.5 more like it....


I never said that :(

#3577 KK.

KK.

    Rich in Fish!

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4442 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:52 PM

Favourite Pixar film...

Ya, I accidentally missed the Pixar part. That's whats shocking. Your favourite Pixar film (we're talking about the pre-Cars 2 Pixar here) is only an 8.5? That's pretty tough....

I adore Finding Nemo and I'd give it a 9.5/10. It's amongst my top 3 Pixar films.


Finding Nemo might be your favourite film but you only gave it a 8.5?!? 9.5 more like it....


I never said that :(


I meant Pixar Alice. Curse typos...you have one of those online and everything goes wrong!

What I basically meant to say is 8.5 is too low a rating to give to your favourite Pixar film ;)

#3578 alicebrallice

alicebrallice

    Frequent Poster

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1701 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Sweden

Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:02 AM


Favourite Pixar film...

Ya, I accidentally missed the Pixar part. That's whats shocking. Your favourite Pixar film (we're talking about the pre-Cars 2 Pixar here) is only an 8.5? That's pretty tough....

I adore Finding Nemo and I'd give it a 9.5/10. It's amongst my top 3 Pixar films.


to be honest, I was going to give it 8.8 but I changed my mind in the last second for some reason. ;)

and I don't know if I'd even give my all-time favorite film a 10. maybe a 9.5 or 9.6. and then 8.5 is pretty damn good.

#3579 KK.

KK.

    Rich in Fish!

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4442 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:08 AM

I wouldn't give my favourite film a 10 because that means they're perfect and I don't think any film is perfect really. That's not to say Finding Nemo is my favourite film, because it's not, nor is any Pixar film. But Finding Nemo, Wall-E and Up are so darn good when it comes to their quality. So I don't mind giving ratings like 9.5 to a film as great as Finding Nemo. Its so masterfully crafted. Great movie.

Apologies for the confusion. I often look at pre-Cars 2 Pixar very highly.

#3580 Pasi Tiitinen

Pasi Tiitinen

    Enthusiastic Home Brewer

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4388 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Finland

Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:15 AM

Yeah, Cars-2 was a disaster.

I'm not the biggest fan of Pixar but i have to admit that the first half of Wall-E was near to perfection(big thanks to Snoozeman). Well
the second part dropped it to be just quite a great animated movie.

#3581 Chaac

Chaac

    The Contrary

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 8278 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:51 AM

I always loved Snoozeman in Nemo and WALL·E. In fact I think that's most of what I know from the guy.

Izena duen guztia omen da.


#3582 KK.

KK.

    Rich in Fish!

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4442 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 13 July 2012 - 01:10 AM

Try Angels in America. It might just be my favourite Snoozeman score. It combines his lush and beautiful orchestral writing while taking the best of his eclectic side.

#3583 Hlao-roo

Hlao-roo

    Rank Sentimentalist

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 5016 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:41 AM

Try Angels in America. It might just be my favourite Snoozeman score. It combines his lush and beautiful orchestral writing while taking the best of his eclectic side.


It definitely makes for an excellent survey of Newman's career up to that point.

#3584 Quint

Quint

    Let's cook

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21161 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Black Lodge

Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

finding nemo - 8.5/10

my cheeks hurt from smiling too much and my skin feels weird after all the goose bumps caused by newman's brilliance. might be my favorite pixar film.


My favourite Pixar movie. First viewing I was like, "meh." Second time around I was like, "aww shiiiiiiiiit."

#3585 Koray Savas

Koray Savas

    Grandest Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 27770 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Maryland

Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:46 PM

Nothing beats Newman when he's with Mendes.

Was doing some light drinking with a friend last night, and we watched about an hour each of The Hangover Part II and The Thing (2011). What terrible films, the both of them. Former wasn't even remotely funny, and just plain boring. Latter was typical contemporary horror gorefest with poor CGI.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


#3586 Matt C

Matt C

    Frequent Poster

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1694 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:46 AM

Ted - As much as I'm loathe to admit it, this movie works for the most part. Seth McFarlane's humor works far better in live-action than it did in Family Guy, and like that turd, doesn't hold back in insulting everyone but it does have heart. But that jab at Superman Returns... not only is it five years late, but it goes on too long. If McFarlane wanted to be more relevant, he should've done Green Lantern instead -- which would've made the Ryan Reynolds cameo even funnier.

And I love how Walter Murphy's score plays it straight. Very lush for the most part, interspersed with that big jazzy sound McFarlane and Murphy did well on FG. In fact, I think Ted is one of the best scores of 2012. Anyone who doesn't think that clearly haven't seen the film or listened to the soundtrack.

#3587 Joey

Joey

    I am the First of many

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 22896 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Not Arizona

Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:57 AM

Batman Begins in its entirety, didn't remember the joker ending.

I appreciate this film much more. I still prefer the Dark Knight. I think it's more straight forward story telling.

I think tomorrow I'll have to watch Superman the Movie. It's a film Nolan said he drew inspiration from for Batman Begins.
I want to watch it because I like the lighter aspects of it. It's not as dark or brooding but at it's heart it features a villain who is so ruthless but so likable that you don't ever fear him to the degree that you probably should.

Before we go see Dark Knight Rises we'll see the Dark Knight just to be completely caught up.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!

"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.

#3588 indy4

indy4

    Grand Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16709 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 14 July 2012 - 06:24 AM

The Amazing Spiderman: It was pretty mediocre and boring. I really liked the mallet percussion music when Spidey is climbing the wall to avoid the gang of criminals. Other than that the score was decent but not that great.
Recently Purchased CDs:
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein

#3589 Alexcremers

Alexcremers

    Grand Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16448 posts

Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:00 AM

Posted Image

4/10


Alex
Pictures, visual images, are far better to achieve that end than any words, particularly now, when the world has lost all mystery and magic and speech has become mere chatter, empty of meaning - Andrei Tarkovsky

#3590 Stefancos

Stefancos

    The Road Goes Ever On And On

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 53415 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hoorn, The Netherlands, Europe, Planet Earth

Posted 14 July 2012 - 05:54 PM

Star Trek Generations

Warning review by a Trekkie!

Now it has to be said that from a story and concept perspective, this movie has some severe issues. The previous one The Undiscovered Country already functioned as a farewell movie for the TOS crew. So if they were gonna bring Kirk back for yet another big farewell, it would have to be epic

The main problem is The Nexus. An place were time has no meaning and only eternal bliss exists. The concept of it doesn't really work in this film. Not only is it a do-over of the Wormhole/Celestial Temple from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (a concept that worked far better). The nexus never feels like anything more then a sci-fi trick to get Kirk and Picard together.
But it's not just bad science, it's also bad fiction. For instance it's almost impossible to get into the Nexus, yet you can leave whenever you want to? Would the energy ribbon not be a problem both ways?
Also the mis-en scene inside the Nexus is dodgy. Picard's dream family look like something out a a Dickens novel. Horribly snotty and unappealing children and a novelty Christmas house. It's laughable. Stewart is great in the scene though.
Guinan shows up, and tells us that she actually never left the Nexus. Which makes sense since time is meaningless there. So if you go in once, and leave....you actually stay forever. This does mean that Soran is actually already inside the Nexus he's trying to get back into. We never see Soran in the Nexus. Would he melt with the Soran that's already there? Would the two of them be containing in an eternal struggle like Lazarus in TOS' The Alternative Factor? Soran and anti-Soran locked in combat.... We will never know.

Shatner returns for the last time (in cinema) as James T. Kirk. He's great to watch as ever. With the usual Shatnerian swagger. But it does feel like an extended cameo. He really is kinda tagged on at the end of the picture. And the death scene is unworthy of such an iconic character.

Patrick Stewart makes his first cinema appearance as Jean Luc Picard. It's actually interesting seeing the two contrasting acting styles of the two actors in once film. Stewart has always had a less is more approach to his portrayal. He is strong in a film that doesn't always give him good material. He definitely gets the best line in the film. "This is not your bedroom?"

Brent Spiner has fun with his Data full of emotions. Seeing the android laughing his ass of or crying should not work, but it does.

The legendary Malcolm McDowell plays yet another villian. It's a decent performance in a somewhat underwritten role.
Barbara March and Gwyneth Walsh are devilishly over the top at the Duras Sisters.

Walter Koenig and James Dooham return in cameo's in the opening scene that features the depressed kid from Ferris Bueller as Captain of The Enterprise. It's weird hearing Scotty spouting out TNG style techno babble.

The first Star Trek TOS movie flaunted The Enterprise. Gave it a big 6 minute introduction. Generations fails to make any fuss over the fact that it's iconic ship can be seen in glorious cinema. The first view of The Enterprise D is when it approaches the Armagosa observatory, and it's a bog standard shot that just shows a bit of the saucer section. Many other shots look like they were updated from the TV show. Apart from the scene were it crashes there isn't really a single time that they "show off" The Enterprise. Did the makers really not think we didn't want to see the D in it's full majesty before they destroyed her? (the next film, First Contact shows us the newer, less beautiful ship in full detail).

The special effects are generally outstanding though

The film looks good. Filmed by John A. Alonzo the interior at least looks beautiful. Particularly when lit by the Armagosa star.
The pacing is good, the direction by David Carson is workman-like but solid. And the space battle is well shot. The final crash of the saucer section is spectacular.

This film is Dennis McCarthy's lone Star Trek film outing. I've always been a fan of his style on Star Trek. This score is an extension of that, but with actual themes. His main theme is a solid entry into the world of Star Trek themes. His Nexus music is soothing and beautiful and his action music is positively propulsive. The orchestrations are as ever superb. It's really an underrated score that has had too many people crapping all over it. It's far more a Star Trek score then Gia's effort will ever be.

This film has many good moment, many good scenes. but it's based on a rather silly and misguided notion that they needed to have Kirk in it...and that Kirk needed to die.

**1/2 out of ****

GWWQ86m_zpse31a9fba.jpg

 


#3591 Quint

Quint

    Let's cook

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21161 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Black Lodge

Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:21 PM

It's Saturday tea time and that means it's Indiana Jones HD again on BBC1.

Again, it's beautifully rich on the eyes. I may be overlooking an obvious example, but is this movie THE reddest ever filmed or what?

Posted Image 

Posted Image

Posted Image 

Posted Image 

Posted Image 

Posted Image 

Posted Image

Posted Image 

Posted Image 

Posted Image

 Posted Image 


I wish more movies looked as thick with crimson and shadow as this.

#3592 Ren

Ren

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 8089 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:24 PM

now they are teal and orange.

~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore


#3593 Stefancos

Stefancos

    The Road Goes Ever On And On

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 53415 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hoorn, The Netherlands, Europe, Planet Earth

Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:34 PM

Lot of teal and orange in the pictures above Ren.

GWWQ86m_zpse31a9fba.jpg

 


#3594 Ren

Ren

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 8089 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:36 PM

My favourite Pixar movie. First viewing I was like, "meh." Second time around I was like, "aww shiiiiiiiiit."



yessssss!

~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore


#3595 JWfangirl1992

JWfangirl1992

    is the worst boardie known to this site

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1150 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:New Jersey

Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:41 PM

I have to say Wall-E and Up are two of my favorite movies. The themes behind those two movies are absolutely outstanding and quite comical.

Has anyone seen The Artist? I am thinking about renting it tonight but trying to decide if it is worth it or not.

#3596 Stefancos

Stefancos

    The Road Goes Ever On And On

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 53415 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hoorn, The Netherlands, Europe, Planet Earth

Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:44 PM

It's black and white and has no dialogue.

GWWQ86m_zpse31a9fba.jpg

 


#3597 Michael

Michael

    El Magnífico

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1651 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Argentina

Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:58 PM

It's a gorgeous crowd-pleaser, highly enjoyable. I went to the cinema expecting it be a cheap homage to the silent film era, but it turned to be a film made with so much love towards those decades, that when it ended I was smiling from ear to ear.

It's also a great introduction to those people who don't watch silent films.
If you start taking yourself seriously, then you’re in deep trouble! - Jerry Goldsmith

#3598 indy4

indy4

    Grand Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16709 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:10 PM

As somebody who hasn't see many silent movies, I loved the Artist. I found it incredibly moving.
Recently Purchased CDs:
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein

#3599 Ren

Ren

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 8089 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:50 PM

Lot of teal and orange in the pictures above Ren.


not enough teal

~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore


#3600 Koray Savas

Koray Savas

    Grandest Master

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 27770 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Maryland

Posted 15 July 2012 - 01:37 AM

Spielberg has always had a taste for red. He uses it exceptionally well in a handful of films.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users