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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:29 PM
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:30 PM
Even if you didn't, you should have still be able to appreciate one of the the best looking films of all time. It just doesn't age (not counting some bits of technology).
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:35 PM
there are many great looking films out there. Best is just hyperbole.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:59 PM
C'mon Joey, we all know you're JWFan's Mr Conventional where movies are concerned. If it ain't Hollywood and there's a chance it might be out of your comfort zone, you're guaranteed to have a little explosion of rage in reaction to whichever director happened to sneak up behind you and take you by surprise this time. How very dare he show you that movie, right? We see it time and time again here - you can't stand unconventional films which don't conform with your quaint little worldly view. And from that moment onwards you bitch about the movie and it's director for all eternity, or at least as long as there are people here to read it, for the umpteenth time. And no, your little flying saucer movies don't count as unconventional.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:59 PM
there are many great looking films out there. Best is just hyperbole.
Though most look nothing special.
And I agree with Quint, again! Joey has a pretty gay taste when it comes to movies (Titanic, Mama Mia, Shirley Temple movies ... ), music (Madonna, Lady Gaga, Ce Ce Peniston,) and TV series (The Mentalist, Castle, ...).
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:11 PM
Joe is a very manly, and sexual man.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:28 PM
You cost me... A HELL OF A LOT, Joey, a hell of a lot!
And religious overtones? Will people someday stop imagining religious overtones in everything because they can't find a better word for it?
And religious overtones? Will people someday stop imagining religious overtones in everything because they can't find a better word for it?
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:32 PM
E.T. is a retelling of the story of christ.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:39 PM
Of course, like Superman and Chance.
I said it too...
too late.
I love 2001.
I said it too...
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:59 PM
Joe is a very manly, and sexual man.
Like Magnum?
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:01 PM
yeah.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:07 PM
I saw Captain America: The First Avenger
Now, Alex made it seem like I was making up the Marvel films looking different from each other, but am I going crazy here? This one also looks different to me! With those fake backgrounds, the Snyder-like smooth movements of the characters, the pseudo-propaganda montages... The Incredible Hulk had a dark, modern "action film" look, green looking, lots of handheld, sweeping aerial shots, and the CGI looked crappier. The look of the CGI in this one is more painterly. Thor was more brightly light than either, used more slow motion and angled and tilted shots, and of course relied on Asgard styled like Jack Kirby...
Now, Alex made it seem like I was making up the Marvel films looking different from each other, but am I going crazy here? This one also looks different to me! With those fake backgrounds, the Snyder-like smooth movements of the characters, the pseudo-propaganda montages... The Incredible Hulk had a dark, modern "action film" look, green looking, lots of handheld, sweeping aerial shots, and the CGI looked crappier. The look of the CGI in this one is more painterly. Thor was more brightly light than either, used more slow motion and angled and tilted shots, and of course relied on Asgard styled like Jack Kirby...
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:12 PM
but am I going crazy here? ..
Yes. Generally speaking, it looks and feels like the next Marvel film. It's like they are all made by the the same director. Marvel doesn't want it any other way, BTW.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:12 PM
That stuffs older than Snyder.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:14 PM
yeah.
No, he doesn't!
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:17 PM
That stuffs older than Snyder.
What stuff?
but am I going crazy here? ..
Yes. Generally speaking, it looks and feels like the next Marvel film.
Well I do see a difference between Captain America and The Avengers.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:21 PM
Well you've edited and added more since I posted, but I was replying to the "Snyder-like smooth movements of the characters."
I haven't seen CA, but isn't its look rather washed out and pseudo-black and white, as if it's an homage to a bygone era?
I haven't seen CA, but isn't its look rather washed out and pseudo-black and white, as if it's an homage to a bygone era?
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Well yeah, it was an example. When Cap fight the Red Skull it reminds me of the opening scene of Watchmen. As if it was theatre. I like that, usually I feel more "distance" between myself and the action.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:31 PM
No, what I'm saying is CA looks nothing like The Avengers. Alex said marvel movies all look the same - and most of them do - loud, primary colours liberally splashed all over the place, blue skies, like in The Avengers, but CA goes for something a little different. I'm just sayin', that all.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:35 PM
The sets of the '40s had a different look but that's not what I mean with "different kind of moviemaking". Marvel comic book movies are not about auteurship. It's precisely the one thing Marvel doesn't want for their movies.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:39 PM
Yeah I know what you meant, as I hinted at a moment ago. The physical sets and the costumes aren't what differentiate CA from the rest - judging by the images I've seen. That's all I'm trying to say.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:03 PM
Marvel comic book movies are not about auteurship. It's precisely the one thing Marvel doesn't want for their movies.
That's a different thing altogether.
Yet they kind of choose the directors clearly based on their previous work, which is interesting, although they don't let them that much freedom later (see Marvel cutting some good scenes from Thor). Other than Whedon who was basically set free with all these toys. Probably because he tends to write by himself just what they want and he does it so well. I'm glad, it doesn't happen very often.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:05 PM
Marvel wants all their films to have a certain look and feel, to be recognizable as a Marvel product.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:08 PM
Same as Disney.
Do we have to go to DC for the 'darker' fair?
Do we have to go to DC for the 'darker' fair?
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:11 PM
Marvel wants all their films to have a certain look and feel, to be recognizable as a Marvel product.
There's pre-Hulk and post-Hulk.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:14 PM
Same as Disney.
Do we have to go to DC for the 'darker' fair?
They only know how to make Batman and Superman films.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:21 PM
Watchmen is DC.
Blade is pre-Hulk Marvel.
Hellboy is ... eh ... Dark Horse Comics?!
Blade is pre-Hulk Marvel.
Hellboy is ... eh ... Dark Horse Comics?!
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:22 PM
Haha yes.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:22 PM
Wonder how close the X-Men films are to the established Marvel style
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:28 PM
It's pretty obvious. X-men and X2 are pre-Hulk Marvel. That means I like 'm. The rest or the bad ones are post-Hulk Marvel.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:14 PM
lol at alex and his stupidity, not to mention his superiority complex. Castle, I've never seen the show, Lady Gaga and Ce Ce Peniston, don't even know who that last person is. Titanic is one of the most popular movies ever, and it's a terrific movie on many levels, only a snobby bitch would deny that. but you are that.
there are many great looking films out there. Best is just hyperbole.
Though most look nothing special.
And I agree with Quint, again! Joey has a pretty gay taste when it comes to movies (Titanic, Mama Mia, Shirley Temple movies ... ), music (Madonna, Lady Gaga, Ce Ce Peniston,) and TV series (The Mentalist, Castle, ...).
I thought Mamma Mia was okay but I don't own it, but I think all involved had a blast. Shirley Temple is a classic actress that made some comfy films.
Alex is afraid of emotion. He's also scared of movies at the theater because they are more likely to force him emotions to the surface. That's why he loves film's like 2001 and Blade Runner because they are as cold as ice, like him. God forbid he should ever shed a tear because it would be revealing a weakness in himself. I would hate to be his family, how awful it must be to live with a f*****g ice cube.
Joe, who gets that all Alex knows about gay people is stereotypes, we're all fey men who are fabulous with decor, make amazing floral arrangements, give women amazing hair, and all die of aids.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:17 PM
film's like 2001 and Blade Runner because they are as cold as ice, like him.
NO-THEY'RE-NOT.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:18 PM
saying there not doesn't make them so, they are cold films, devoid of any warmth.
film's like 2001 and Blade Runner because they are as cold as ice, like him.
NO-THEY'RE-NOT.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:19 PM
Good on you Joe!
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:22 PM
saying there not doesn't make them so, they are cold films, devoid of any warmth.
film's like 2001 and Blade Runner because they are as cold as ice, like him.
NO-THEY'RE-NOT.
Saying that doesn't make them so
Now seriously, in my first and only viewing so far of Blade Runner I was profoundly moved and in my first viewing of 2001 I was frightened as fuck (also a bit the last time I saw it.) I can't characterize these films as devoid of emotions.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:31 PM
Blade Runner might be the only SCi Fi movie that actually moved me to tears
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:38 PM
The tears in the rain moment is breathtaking. and the love scene is beautiful. Very vulnerable.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:10 PM
Just came back from the screening of Wes Anderson's Moonrise Kingdom. Didn't plan to go. I just went to collect my tickets for Prometheus. But then I was it was starting in about 20 minutes... Anyway, it's really good. Somewhat reminiscent of Fantastic Mr. Fox, but that's ok because I liked that film and, from my understanding, this is a typical Anderson (can't say I'm an expert). Very interesting camera work and a charming, dry-witted script. And terrific score from Alexandre Desplat. He's clearly one of the best film composers around these days (and Deathly Hallows is his least interesting work). I had a good time. Recommended.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:33 PM
I must say I do love Joey's reprisals! I look forward to them, I do, and that one was vintage! Just an awesome poster here, always entertaining.
Lee - who was surprised to get off so lightly.
Lee - who was surprised to get off so lightly.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:36 PM
I must say I do love Joey's reprisals! I look forward to them,
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