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#401 gkgyver

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:26 AM



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The clip betrays Horner's usual BEAUTIFUL MIND mystery string/piano style. No danger motif yet.


Are you sure its original music?


I wouldn't be so facetious to call it 'original' but i expect it to be part from JH's score and as such it crushes the notion that he has deviated from his well-worn formula all too much.


Why should he anyway?
Considering all the movies he has on his resumee, The Amazing Spider-Man is pretty low on the list.

It still has an odd ring to me that Horner does this lame Spider-Man reboot. I doubt he needs the money. How much did they offer him?

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:28 AM

Maybe he was actually inspired, eh?

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:29 AM

Huh?
By that?

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:38 AM

I think it looks great. Much better than The Avengers, and either way other people see things that you or I don't. How the hell did Jerry write so many great scores from less-than-average flicks? Man can draw inspiration from very little.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:39 AM

And you think Horner is that kind of person?

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:45 AM

Well he tends to score good films. Or rather I haven't seen the bad films he has scored. He's the most derivative composer in the industry, for sure, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:49 AM

for horner... 'benefit of the doubt' expired like a decade ago.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:04 PM

It still has an odd ring to me that Horner does this lame Spider-Man reboot.


Whatever you think about it, it's still a high-profile franchise movie coming from a big studio starring a beloved character known by everyone in the world, with the very likely possibility it will be one of the biggest box-office hits of the year. I think these are all good reasons for any composer to accept such an assignment.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:06 PM

Yep
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:40 PM

I think it looks great. Much better than The Avengers, and either way other people see things that you or I don't. How the hell did Jerry write so many great scores from less-than-average flicks? Man can draw inspiration from very little.

I agree, I think this Spidermen film looks much more interesting than the last 3. I see alot of petty hate and jealously directed towards this film for little reason.

If it works great, if it sucks too bad but it's reason for existance is just as legit as a forth tobey mcguire spidey.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:50 PM

I agree. Nothing i've seen about this films says "turkey" yet...

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:51 PM

I don't think it looks great, I don't think it looks horrible. It just looks very "meh" to me. Looks like some original ideas mixed into a worn-out, cliched plot
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:52 PM

It's a superhero movie....

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:57 PM

That doesn't mean it can't be done well. The Dark Knight was pretty good.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 05:06 PM

I don't think it looks great, I don't think it looks horrible. It just looks very "meh" to me. Looks like some original ideas mixed into a worn-out, cliched plot

which means it's just like 97% of the movies out there.
It's just as original looking as the flavor of the day, the Avengers, I like the think of it as I did the first Spidermen film. Overhyped overrated and overpraised.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:33 PM

I think it looks great. Much better than The Avengers, and either way other people see things that you or I don't.


Agree with you that it looks great. But It's going to be hard to top Avengers imo. I saw Avengers again yesterday and wanted to see it again immediately after. Still do. I've never watched a movie three times at a cinema. It's very rare for me to look at a movie twice at one. I'm tempted to check out Avengers for a third time. But I doubt Amazing Spiderman will have the same impact on me the way Avengers did. Though I do think it'll be great judging by the last two trailers.

which means it's just like 97% of the movies out there.
It's just as original looking as the flavor of the day, the Avengers, I like the think of it as I did the first Spidermen film. Overhyped overrated and overpraised.


Just like "The Dark Knight" and this is coming from somebody who enjoyed that film.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:27 AM

A Piece Of The Amazing Spider-Man Score Has Been Revealed!

Apparently, Horner has written the End Credits.
"I get asked all the time, 'What happens after Return of the Jedi?,' and there really is no answer for that. The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that's where that story ends."

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 01:55 PM

Yeah, 20 years ago.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:18 PM

ROTFLMAO
"I get asked all the time, 'What happens after Return of the Jedi?,' and there really is no answer for that. The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that's where that story ends."

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:36 AM

So does that mean the end of the film won't launch into a song? That would be refreshing.

Problem with Horner, is he's taken some projects recently clearly for the money or because he was headhunted by a producer (Karate Kid), so it's hard to tell whether he actively decided that he wanted to do this.

IOW, was he truly inspired, or just going through the motions?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:40 AM

Rubbish, absolute rubbish! the man is a multi-friggin'-miljonair! He doesn't have to work for money!

The only reason he needs to take any job is because it's an interesting project for him....

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:36 PM

I've not been following the thread. ave I missed anything? What are we talking about here? Is Horner the former back on form or what?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:43 PM

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:47 PM

FIVE?! Are you having a laugh or what?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:55 PM

Are you? You spent time asking us what we are talking about, when the thing we've been talking about was literally only posted 5 posts before yours.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:00 PM

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:19 AM

A Piece Of The Amazing Spider-Man Score Has Been Revealed!

Apparently, Horner has written the End Credits.


Nice! A bunch of rests, how awesome is that!

And that preview looks absolutely terrible. The effects for the Lizard due seem poorly done. And there are a lot of cliches there.

I know a lot of people here don't seem to like Raimi's trilogy, but with the exception of the last film, I felt those nailed Spiderman in a cinematic, entertaining blockbuster fashion.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:13 AM

I think raimi nailed spider-man perfectly fine, in all three movies.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:37 AM

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

The Amazing Spider-Man.

I've just watched the film. It's not terrible, but feels like written by 10 different people, each of them wanting to tell a different story. It wants to be a touching drama, an action film and pure comedy. Somehow Sam Raimi pulled it off better (even though, I'm not a massive fan of his films)..I like the whole "being a spider" aspect of the film where Peter freaks out over his new powers (I get this is a metaphor for puberty). The pacing is way too slow (it takes ages before you even see Spider-Man) and nothing makes real sense. The characters' do things for some reason and the plot holes are of the size of a moon. And yet it is all watchable. I just wish Garfield didn't push his "nerdy Peter" this far. He stammers all the time and after a while it becomes quite annoying. I liked the actress playing Gwen Stacy in this film.

One aspect which is definitely better than in the other three is the CGI. Still not perfect, but they're getting there with this particualar wall crawler.

The music. There is much music missing from the album (and I want it). The mixing is loud so you're going to hear it. To the point of distraction at certain points. Horner plays it completely straight and upfront, so some people are going to hate it. You know, sad things happen so we hear sad music. And while there is too much music in the film, I kind of enjoyed it that way. It's not often nowadays that film music is in the spotlight like this. The main theme is probably as recognizeable as you'll likely to hear in 2012 movie. Not subtle scoring, but entertaining nontheless.

Not a disaster, but seems rather pointless to reboot this series. But I guess The Twilight crowd disagrees...

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:30 PM

The score is the only thing which makes me want to see it. Especially since you mentioned good stuff you noticed which isn't on the ost (typically Horner).

I don't even know what the dude who plays spiderman looks like.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:38 PM

I don't like him for some reason. In general, I mean. He's ok as Peter Parker.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:39 PM

I preferred it over Raimi's films which I never liked. I thought it was too long but it was never boring.

the effects were really good this time around. Wish I saw it in 3d
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:43 PM

What do you think of James Horner's latest, Joey?

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:52 PM

I preferred it over Raimi's films which I never liked. I thought it was too long but it was never boring.

the effects were really good this time around. Wish I saw it in 3d


Sigh, another overly long popcorn flick. Someone should revive the old hour fifty runtime.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:53 PM

Yeah, it is too long, even at 136 minutes it feels like 3 hrs.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:05 PM

An hour and thirty six minutes for a spiderman movie? Wtf?

Damn you Nolan!

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:42 AM

Just came back from The Amazing Spider-man. Crocodile pretty much summed up my views about the film. It's a watchable film indeed and not as awful as the trailers made it out to be. But one can't help but feel how pointless this reboot while watching the film. It was like watching the plot of the original Spiderman play over again with different actors (especially in the sequences where Garfield is becoming Spiderman). Even the Lizard reminded me of Green Goblin in certain ways. In the end Raimi's films were far better (take into consideration I enjoyed them very much with the exception of Spiderman 3).

I didn't like the CGI much. Didn't like the costume either (but I've already expressed that concern, I thought it would be better in film, it wasn't). And those awful POV shots started getting on my nerves.The film is poorly paced and thank God there was the score to help drive the film. I felt there were a lot of things that could have used work. But I really did like the chemistry between Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield. Their acting was quite enjoyable and admittedly added a more personal touch to the film than the original.

Oh and the score was great fun in the film, very enjoyable to watch. Ultimately, the original Raimi films reign supreme...and while its decent, this film is kind of redundant.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:28 AM

Yeah, it is too long, even at 136 minutes.

An hour and thirty six minutes for a spiderman movie? Wtf?







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