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[BloodBoal]

You guys should stop laughing out loud when listening to music. People might think you're crazy (and they'd be right).

[Josh500]

You guys should stop laughing out loud when listening to music. People might think you're crazy (and they'd be right).

Like I care!

[Incanus]

You guys should stop laughing out loud when listening to music. People might think you're crazy (and they'd be right).

I can actually listen to it without laughing out loud every time. It is not a conditioned effect you know BloodBoal. And still not listening to the OST then? No wonder you're cranky these days.

[Jason LeBlanc]

What are you waiting for before listening? Do you want to see the movie first?

[Josh500]

Another part of the album I really like is the end of The Captain's Counsel, when we get Tintin's Theme followed by the Mystery Solving Theme followed by Thomson and Thompson's theme back-to-back-to-back, with no other music in between. And it flows perfectly! Williams is great a stuff like that

Yes.

I am actually surprised at how much I find myself enjoying the "quieter" tracks as well...

[Incanus]

I think the quiet tracks provide a bit of a break from the extremely frenetic action and busy feel of the rest of the score. The lighter Thompsons' music and Haddock tracks are just perfectly placed.

[Josh500]

I think the quiet tracks provide a bit of a break from the extremely frenetic action and busy feel of the rest of the score. The lighter Thompsons' music and Haddock tracks are just perfectly placed.

Exactly!

And you know, I even find myself listening to "Bianca Castafiore" once in a while... just to get a break from all these busy and frantic JW action tracks... before jumping right back in!

[Chaac]

I haevn't found the concentration to listen to this from start to finish, I'm jumping around with the tracks.

[Jason LeBlanc]

I think the quiet tracks provide a bit of a break from the extremely frenetic action and busy feel of the rest of the score. The lighter Thompsons' music and Haddock tracks are just perfectly placed.

Exactly!

And you know, I even find myself listening to "Bianca Castafiore" once in a while... just to get a break from all these busy and frantic JW action tracks... before jumping right back in!

You know, I honestly think I've only listened to Presenting Bianca Castafiore all the way through exactly once! I've probably heard every other track on the OST at least 10 times. I've listened to the first 30 seconds of Presenting... probably 5-10 times, but once the singing starts I never have the interest in hearing the whole thing

[Josh500]

I have listened to the album straight through only twice so far. Individual tracks I especially like (Snowy's Theme, Flight, Pursuit, Adventure Continues, etc.) I have listened to as often as 12 times already...

[Incanus]

I think the album experience is pretty good. I have listened to the CD through a dozen times at least by now.

[Josh500]

You know, I honestly think I've only listened to Presenting Bianca Castafiore all the way through exactly once! I've probably heard every other track on the OST at least 10 times. I've listened to the first 30 seconds of Presenting... probably 5-10 times, but once the singing starts I never have the interest in hearing the whole thing

I think it's kind of relaxing, and you start getting into it. It's best to listen to it right before listening to "Pursuit." It's a natural continuation somehow... and you get to appreciate JW quoting the opera even more. Once "Pursuit" really gets going you almost say to yourself, "Oh yeah, there you go!"

[Jason LeBlanc]

I think the album experience is pretty good. I have listened to the CD through a dozen times at least by now.

I think the album experience is completely wonderful, with the sole exception of the opera singing. Just not my cup of tea. Perhaps after seeing the film I will appreciate it more.

I do think that re-sequencing the order of tracks into a more chronological order creates an equally good flow, although it is a shame that a cue with Haddock's theme is paired with the Capuring Silk music since that means you have to either introduce Haddock's theme before the Karaboudjan music, or feature the Capturing Silk music later than its chronological placement to preserve the proper development of Haddock's theme. Luckily I'm handy with a WAV editor

[Incanus]

Jeux de vivre explains the musical joke of the Pursuit of the Falcon's opening but if I could choose it or 3 minutes of score I would definitely go with the score in a heart beat.

And yes usually JWs scores shine when presented chronologically. This one is no exception in my opinion.

[Josh500]

Yes, it's a bit like listening to "Carol of the Bells" before listening to "Setting the Trap"...

(Although funnily enough these tracks weren't back to back on the HA OS album.)

[Jason LeBlanc]

And yes usually JWs scores shine when presented chronologically. This one is no exception in my opinion.

Yea, and it should be noted that the way Wiliams ordered the OST, the development of Haddock's theme is already in the proper order.

[Romão]

Once I start listening to it, I tend to listen the whole thing through. Womderful album, the best score in years

[Josh500]

Once I start listening to it, I tend to listen the whole thing through. Womderful album, the best score in years

So anybody think this is better than PoA or even PS?

[Chaac]

I didn't thought I would enjoy the "funny" music like I'm doing. I was epically wrong, of course. JW understood what it was about, went there, nailed it, and there you go, next thing to write?

[Incanus]

The album is certainly better than POA's.

[Romão]

I'd like to give some time to set it. But there many great scores in the last decade from JW besides Harry Potter. Memoirs of a Geisha is a masterpiece

[Josh500]

I didn't thought I would enjoy the "funny" music like I'm doing. I was epically wrong, of course. JW understood what it was about, went there, nailed it, and there you go, next thing to write?

It probably had to do with the fact that JW's heart was really in this movie, and the movie probably IS funny.

More so than the monkey, refrigerator, and snake pit scenes in KotCS... (although again, the KOTCS score was actually quite good, but Tintin is tons better).

[Incanus]

I'd like to give some time to set it. But there many great scores in the last decade from JW besides Harry Potter. Memoirs of a Geisha is a masterpiece

I agree. I just watched Memoirs of a Geisha a few days ago and the score was staggeringly beautiful.

The Adventures of Tintin is a brilliant score but I have to wait a while before I include it in the JW pantheon of scores or start comparisons. I think the giddiness levels over HPPS and Tintin during the time of the release are about the same.

[Chaac]

At 2:44 in Snowy's Chase I keep expecting the sound of the brakes

[Josh500]

Btw, in "Snowy's Theme," did Gloria Cheng stumble slightly over the notes at 2:04? Or was it written that way?

It's not a smooth flow of notes (like in the previous 2 cases), but there's a slight hitch halfway through...

Well, it's at number 10.

1. Star Wars
2. E.T. - The Extra-Terrestrial
3. Schindler's List
4. Raiders Of The Lost Ark
5. Superman The Movie
6. The Empire Strikes Back
7. Jaws
8. Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
9. Jurassic Park
10. Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone

Well, let's see, my Top 10:

1. Jurassic Park
2. E.T. The Extraterrestrial
3. Jaws
4. Raiders of the Lost Ark
5. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
6. Star Wars The Phantom Menace
7. Schindler's List
8. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
9. The Adventures of Tintin
10. Home Alone

The list constantly changes, though...

(And no, I haven't forgotten Star Wars and CEOT3K and Superman, etc... I generally prefer his newer scores.)

[Jason LeBlanc]

I could never put a score in my top 10 of any list that I hadn't given at least 6 months to. Durability is a strong factor in being in any top 10.

[Josh500]

Well, this is just from my current standpoint...

I might--and probably will--change my opinion about the Tintin score over the next couple of months. For the better or for the worse, I don't know yet.

[BloodBoal]

You guys should stop laughing out loud when listening to music. People might think you're crazy (and they'd be right).

I can actually listen to it without laughing out loud every time. It is not a conditioned effect you know BloodBoal. And still not listening to the OST then? No wonder you're cranky these days.

I'M NOT CRANKY! SHUT UP, FINNISH BOY!

What are you waiting for before listening? Do you want to see the movie first?

No, I'm waiting for my copy to arrive. I like doing my first listen with the CD, not with some random files.

Anyway, POST EDITED - see here.

[Jason LeBlanc]

I had to edit your post due to this. You also violated rules 1 and 5 of our rules

To answer your question I had to edit, who said I wanted everyone to do that? I simply asked you a question. How am I supposed to know if your physical copy arrived or not yet.

[BloodBoal]

To answer your question I had to edit, who said I wanted everyone to do that?

No one said that. I just wanted an excuse to use the insult I wrote.

P.S.: You forgot to edit my post.

P.P.S: And that, my friends, is my 2000th post! That deserves a little something...



Time to change the avatar!

[Jason LeBlanc]

Are you going to change your avatar every 2,000 posts?

[BloodBoal]

No, why?

[Incanus]

OK. Another anime/game hero with a rather emoish hair-do. But you can't go wrong with Link though. Classic character.

[BloodBoal]

OK. Another anime/game hero with a rather emoish hair-do. You can't go wrong with Link though.

[Jason LeBlanc]

(that was for the winky thumbs up, not to Link. Link kicks ass. Though I don't get what he's holding in that picture)

[BloodBoal]

Says the man with the homoerotic belgian dude's avatar!

EDIT: That was before you edited your post! Link's holding a map!

[Incanus]

Well now that's settled shouldn't we go back to talking about this wonderful score. The Red Rackham's Treasure theme is a curious little motif that Williams uses quite sparingly on the CD. It is a bit similar to the Crystal Skull theme in its eerieness. I guess the treasure is more of a ghostly legend in the film than something opulent and awe inspiring. The grand rendition at the end of Red Rackham's Curse and the Treasure sounds so clearly like a exotic traveling or transitional music I immeadiately associated the motif with Bagghar one way or the other.

And wasn't Williams original version slightly different, the exotic tone replaced by the cold and ghostly one?

[Jason LeBlanc]

I'm still not convinced the "Slow Version" is the same as the "Fast Version" is the same as the "Bagghar Revealed" version. They sound like different themes to my amateur ears.

[Incanus]

I'm still not convinced the "Slow Version" is the same as the "Fast Version" is the same as the "Bagghar Revealed" version. They sound like different themes to my amateur ears.

Listen to the Slow/Eerie version at 0:46 and then the flute melody in the grand statement at 5:46 in the same track. Clearly the same theme. Williams elaborates the melody further in the latter statement, adding even more exoticism to it.

[lostinspace]

From what I have listened to so far - about half the album it sounds like a technically sophisticated score; first track is great depicting the quirkiness. Two things bother me about soundtrack though:

Though fresh, it is "jumpy" to listen to (similar to Indiana Jones 4); I'm not blaming Williams for the jumpiness itself but when tracks go from theme to theme or motif to motif it makes for a jarring listen - and this occurs on most tracks. Would'nt it be better to stick to a theme or 2 at most and just play with that- as a composer myself I know how hard this is, it's much easier to through compose.

Secret of the Scrolls is almost a direct copy of Irina's Theme from IJ 4. Parts of the score make me wonder if I'm listening to Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets mixed with a bit of Indiana Jones 4 and the saxaphone father and son theme from catch me if you can. Oddly, Williams seems to have abandoned inspiration from any of his past Star Wars scores.

That said it sounds like its going work great in the film, and, it's comforting to hear Williams music again after 3 long years. I guess we have much to be thankful for as he could have retired by now.