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[king mark]

got shipping notice too

[Richard Penna]

So what's the big grail now?

[Stefancos]

A complete TMP

[king mark]

yes, the the missing expanded Williams blockbuster scores

[Trent Bennett]

I agree with Steef that Star Trek The Motion Picture is the next one...all though not the last on my list.

There are several other scores I'd love to see in complete form but I know some of them Varèse owns and I really won't expect them to release the complete versions. IF they did I would hate to see how they would appear..truncated and such.

[Stefancos]

A complete Generations.

[Trent Bennett]

A complete version of Star Trek Generations will be most welcomed. Honestly I'm a bit more surprised that one or Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home have never leaked in full form like most of the other scores have.

[Krang]

I think I've watched Gremlins three times in the past month. I am getting this.

[Drax]

I've got two orders with SAE that haven't been shipped yet. Must be clogged over there.

[avalanche]

A complete version of Star Trek Generations will be most welcomed. Honestly I'm a bit more surprised that one or Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home have never leaked in full form like most of the other scores have.

Isn't there only a few minutes unreleased from Voyage? It'd be nice to have a better package and sound, though - I'd love to see liner notes like with Khan and Spock.

But I'd really love an expanded Generations. I remember waiting for months for the score to be released on CD after the movie premiered, then being disappointed that some of my favorite parts were not included (specifically, the complete "sparkling" music surrounding the launch of the rocket). The opening theme - or lack of - was very striking, accompanied by that floating bottle image. And "A Christmas Hug" is one of my most favorite Trek score cues.

[Drax]

Generations is very underrated. I really like McCarthy's very distant and mellow brass motif for Kirk.

[crocodile]

I guess this and Explorers would make make for a nice double order from SAE...

Karol

[Drax]

All I need is Small Soldiers and I will have all the Dante/Goldsmith collaboration projects.

[Joe Brausam]

For me, now that we know Quo Vadis and Conan the Destroyer are coming from Tadlow and the original Conans from Intrada, my last grails are the following...

- The Ten Commandments
- FSM Ben-Hur
- Hook
- The Williams/Oliver Stone scores

If those get releases, I'll be happy.

Other things that would be nice to have but I don't really need?

- Braveheart
- Titanic
- A. I.
- E.T.
- The prequels
- Original recording of To Kill a Mockingbird
- Theif of Baghdad rerecording

And that's about it!

[SF1_freeze]

Can somebody tell me the highlight tracks of Gremlins cause i don't know neither film nor score? Is it worth it? What is your opinion/review of the score (OST/Film)?

I will make a bigger Goldsmith order sometimes soon with "The First Knight" and "The Explorers" which will bring my Goldsmith album count to three then (the only one i have is the fabulous Star Trek V expanded). So if Gremlins is good i maybe order it too...

[Joe Brausam]

There are others I'd recommend you get before Gremlins. Patton, The Wind and the Lion, First Blood, Rudy, The Blue Max....

[publicist]

Can somebody tell me the highlight tracks of Gremlins cause i don't know neither film nor score? Is it worth it?

[FrankV]

It's been ages since I've seen the film. Can someone elaborate on what the difference between these 3 tracks are?

21. After Theatre 1:39
29. After Theatre (With "Silent Night") 1:36
30. After Theatre (Without "Silent Night") 1:36

Anyone?

On the first track "Silent Night" begins after 26 seconds, on the second track it begins at the start of the cue and on the last track it isn't inlcuded.

[Demondm810]

Well this release is just bliss. My God, the sound is perfect.

[ZackR]

It's been ages since I've seen the film. Can someone elaborate on what the difference between these 3 tracks are?

21. After Theatre 1:39
29. After Theatre (With "Silent Night") 1:36
30. After Theatre (Without "Silent Night") 1:36

Anyone?

According to the liner notes, there were two versions - one with Silent Night and one without. The Film version is an amalgam of the two. Tracks 29 & 30 are the separate versions with and without Silent Night.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Thanks!

[king mark]

Got my c.d.

[scallenger]

U like it KM? I think it's an awesome presentation with very few nitpicks. And the sound couldn't have been better!

[king mark]

I'll listen to it tomorrow

[scallenger]

What about anyone else? Other people here must have it by now, in some capacity. What do you all think? I love the presentation, booklet, and quality!

[Koray Savas]

Wonder when they're gonna do their next sales promotion that they've been thinking about for a couple months now.

[Drax]

Ain't got mine yet. They took ages to ship it though.

[king mark]

I forgot my ipod today

[pixie_twinkle]

Mine arrived today. I'll listen to it on the drive to work tomorrow when I get done listening to Vaughan Williams' 7th symphony. Can't wait!

[Trent Bennett]

I've sampled a couple of tracks from this issue to see if I actually would get it. Not having heard the score itself outside of the film (it's been years since I've seen the film), the few tracks I did sample I found quite interesting. A rather different approach for Jerry but it is one score I will definitely buy. Since it's not limited the purchase has to wait until after the new year, most likely February. Either way it is one I will buy for sure.

[king mark]

I don't think it's a different approach. I think it's one of the last vintage Goldsmith scores before the mid-80's.

Although I must say I must of overhyped it a bit in my mind. Not the same impact as Explorers or Baby Secret of the Lost Legend releases

[Stefancos]

Although I must say I must of overhyped it a bit in my mind.

Funny, you said the same thing after I got you the bootleg. And then it became a holy grail again.

[king mark]

Yes, I guess since I didn't listen to the boot for a long time I returned to my idealized memory of the score

just like most people here for Back to the Future and Goonies

[scallenger]

I agree in a way, it is better in parts than it is as a score as a whole (in comparison to other Goldsmith works like Poltergeist, Innerspace, Legend, and possibly even Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend). But it is still a score I always wanted and is one that actually stood out to me as a kid and I think helped paved my way into recognizing music in films as being something fun and unique out there. Any score that helped with that thought will always be a grail for me. But honestly, there are a LOT of standout tracks in the score, and the sound quality of this release blows the bootleg(s) out of the water. I see no reason to hang onto those anymore. However, I think somehow the vast majority of people here would find more to love in a complete Gremlins 2, which I really hope does still happen someday soon. But isn't that one still owned by Varese, who did the OST?

[Drax]

It's out of print though. Might do with a Deluxe Edition.

[king mark]

I never cared much for Gremlins 2 .I was always disappointed that had a c.d. release and not Gremlins

Gremlins has much more of the Gizmo related music I prefer in these scores

[Marian Schedenig]

Although I must say I must of overhyped it a bit in my mind. Not the same impact as Explorers or Baby Secret of the Lost Legend releases

I'm much more excited about Gremlins than about Explorers.

And G2 is brilliant. A favourite among Goldsmith's "secondary" scores. Pot Luck alone is worth the price of the album.

[scallenger]

Oh yeah Gremlins 2 is great in different ways from the first. It's wacky tone is far more consistent and is done in a more upbeat way, whereas the first score (like the film) takes itself a lot more seriously to levels of fright. There is some good music missing from the OST of the 2nd film too. My favorite omission being the music when the flying Gremlin attacks the Futtermans by the cathedral, then gets covered in cement, and then turns into a gargoyle (hahahaha). The music at that part just sounds really fun in the film!

[publicist]

Got it yesterday.

As scallenger said, the sum of its parts is greater than the whole, but that's nitpicking. It still is chock-full of themes and ideas, clearly belonging to a colorful Amblin-mid-80's movie (like YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES, AN AMERICAN TAIL, BACK TO THE FUTURE, it seems like the music was destined to carry the picture, and the composers loved Spielberg for it).

Even if you cut out the all-too-short tracks or the functional suspense cues, there are around 45 minutes of bliss, all topped by the strangled cat synthie which i noticed on TV before i know either Goldsmith or Williams. Even if i know the score, listening to the whole thing reminds you what great musical storyteller Goldsmith was when he got films like this. It all The cute suburb theme - Goldsmith became the master of cute suburb themes after POLTERGEIST - gets some much needed workout. The whole finale cue, combining the usual Stravinsky-esque action music with a bright and spirited Korngold fanfare was always the crown juwel of the score, and it sounds better than ever before here.

The con's: the synths can be downright embarrasing at times, giving the score a cheese Casio feel and you wish Dante would have talked him out of the goofy "Mrs. Deagle"-music. On the other hand, Goldsmith would be a lot more boring without his more silly stuff, it's part of the parcel and listening to a score like GREMLINS, you again realize how inventive he was, risking embarassment instead of playing it safe - getting the demented fun of the film while still giving it an emotional arc with the more serious and cute music (which certainly is the reason KM likes it much more than GREMLINS 2, which is much better and more cohesive but lacking any wmotional gravitas).

Thanks a lot, FSM. Not the worthy Goldsmith goodbye release one could have hoped for but great to have all the same.

[pixie_twinkle]

Anyone else hear a lot of similarities between Gremlins and Heartbeeps? The synthy stuff is really similar.