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Will Tintin turn out to be a better score than War Horse?

Started by TheUlyssesian, Nov 16 2011 11:13 AM
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 02:38 AM

War Horse is a much better score in my opinion. TinTin screams Chamber of Secrets, but that's ok too. Maybe I'll like it more when and if I see the film.


Come on Tintin is a much better work than COS.

It may not be groundbreaking, but its not a derivative rehased material with a pair of new themes...

And please watch the film, i think that by the least you will find it entertaining, i hope :)
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 11:34 AM

Come on Tintin is a much better work than COS.

No it's not.

It may not be groundbreaking, but its not a derivative rehased material with a pair of new themes...

COS is much more than that. Too bad you don't seem to appreciate it.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:59 PM

Wow, someone else who enjoys the Chamber of Secrets?

I'll take 'em both!
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 04:44 PM

COS is an amazing score! I enjoy the CD more than HPSS's OST CD I think. Of course when you add in the other half of SS's score that didn't make the CD, it's a different story
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:04 PM

I still consider War Horse a masterpiece while Tintin remains one class below. It's a very good score but it lacks highlights and the thematic material is not as good as WH.

Chamber of Secrets is overshadowed by the great SS and the even better PoA which (with TPM) still remain JW best scores since 1993.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:22 PM

Holy fuck. COS is one of my holy grails... That description i wrote is what most people say...

But if one takes into consideration originality-freshness, Tintin wins.

Ricard, really i cant picture how much (and why) you dislike this score. And i never had seen you praise COS...

PD: I hate that when COS was released, everyone sounded like it was crap, and peope who defended it were mad. And now this...
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

I'm just thankful to have both of these scores. For me currently, they're my most-played. They function pretty well together. War Horse is really soulful and heartfelt. Tintin is Williams' adventurous spirit.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:25 PM

Ricard, really i cant picture how much (and why) you dislike this score.

I don't "dislike" it, I just don't think it's as good as everyone says.

And i never had seen you praise COS...

I wasn't very active on the board around that time. And I quit posting regularly a few weeks after its release.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 11:42 PM

Even still, Ricard, surely it pleases you that a great degree of positivity surrounds the Tintin score; instead of the decidedly mixed/disappointed reaction we got to the last great Williams fan hope (Indy IV)?

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 01:46 AM

Will Tintin turn out to be a better score than War Horse?

That depends more on how successful/good the film is. As of now it looks like they are fairly similarly matched in terms of box-office success. Time will tell though.

It is impossible to compare Tintin with War Horse as they are at different ends of the film making spectrum. War Horse is a heart score while Tintin is a head (more intellectual) score. Neither are masterpieces BUT they are both better than most of the film scores out today. To me I would score Tintin 8/10 and War Horse 8.5/10 based on how well they fit the film. I just listened to some of the new Sherlock music from Zimmer and yes, he does give JW a run for his money!

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:08 AM

Even still, Ricard, surely it pleases you that a great degree of positivity surrounds the Tintin score; instead of the decidedly mixed/disappointed reaction we got to the last great Williams fan hope (Indy IV)?

It neither pleases me nor displeases me.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:08 AM

I just listened to some of the new Sherlock music from Zimmer and yes, he does give JW a run for his money!

You're joking right?

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:39 AM


I just listened to some of the new Sherlock music from Zimmer and yes, he does give JW a run for his money!

You're joking right?



No - Zimmer does capture the essence of the film just as well as JW. It is also "cooler". But the thing that I Iike most about Zimmers work (particularly in Inception & Sherlock) is he seems to write the music in 3D using all sorts of weird instruments -even creaking doors etc. You soon realize why Hans is lightyears ahead of his students (Jablonsky & co) in terms of sound and recording innovation. Lets just hope he keeps the standard high.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:51 AM

I wasn't aware that Williams had scored a Sherlock Holmes movie.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:30 PM

War Horse is a much better score in my opinion. TinTin screams Chamber of Secrets, but that's ok too. Maybe I'll like it more when and if I see the film.


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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:13 PM

COS is an amazing score! I enjoy the CD more than HPSS's OST CD I think. Of course when you add in the other half of SS's score that didn't make the CD, it's a different story


COS is a travesty of a score. Lazy, clumsy and obvious. It's always like a parody of the first score.
I honestly don't think JW was very involved in it. And if he was he was just being a whore.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:21 PM

I view CoS as a compilation album that premieres a few new works. It's not original, but it was never intended to be. Not because Williams was lazy, but because he wasn't physically able to write that much original music in one year. I appreciate the new stuff and the new recordings of old stuff, but I would never try to compare it with, say, any of Williams' other scores of the year or the HP series.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:26 PM

People understimate the re-treaded score vs new score percentages of that OST.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:30 PM

People understimate the re-treaded score vs new score percentages of that OST.

I agree. For me it has always worked as a wonderful album where the new thematic material has been a refreshing addition to the first scores themes and music. The performance by LSO is terrific and robust. Of course as a complete film score it does not hold a candle to the HPPS but as a concept album it is a very entertaining one.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

I'm sorry. The old material feels awkward and disjointed. The new themes are overwrought, grasping for our attention so much that I feel the need to recoil from them. Most of the underscore appears to have been written during lunch break. And re-using No Ticket is just lazy.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:44 PM

I'm sorry. The old material feels awkward and disjointed. The new themes are overwrought, grasping for our attention so much that I feel the need to recoil from them. Most of the underscore appears to have been written during lunch break. And re-using No Ticket is just lazy.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:02 AM

I'm sorry. The old material feels awkward and disjointed. The new themes are overwrought, grasping for our attention so much that I feel the need to recoil from them. Most of the underscore appears to have been written during lunch break. And re-using No Ticket is just lazy.


Yep, Williams was lazy. But he's not stupid, that Gilderoy Lockhart theme fits exactly with the character.

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Requirements for Gilderoy Lockhart music: Show off, style over substance, ornamented, pompous, lack of ability.

I know I'll reuse the harry potter theme - put it into a more rigid march-like 4/4 time signature structure.
Lockhart is ornamented so add lots of trills and a few off notes here and there. Also a harpsichord suggesting old fashioned.
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