Apparently John Carter Of Mars will now just be called "John Carter"
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John Carter (Of Mars) directed by Andrew Stanton, music by Michael Giacchino
Started by Jason LeBlanc, May 25 2011 06:16 PM
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Posted 25 May 2011 - 06:16 PM
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Posted 25 May 2011 - 08:05 PM
Ugh.
John Carter is just a name. John Carter of Mars promises fantasy and adventure. I don't know what they are thinking.
Unless they are going with "John Carter and XXX", formula, but I doubt it.
John Carter is just a name. John Carter of Mars promises fantasy and adventure. I don't know what they are thinking.
Unless they are going with "John Carter and XXX", formula, but I doubt it.
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Posted 25 May 2011 - 08:06 PM
This does not earn Koray's Seal of Approval. 
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Posted 25 May 2011 - 08:13 PM
Maybe if the spiders from Mars wouldn't get all ziggy about it whenever someone tries to use that vibe, this wouldn't be a problem.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:34 PM
John Carter of Mars Teaser Trailer:
Looks cool, even though the first thing that came to my mind was Masters of the Universe. This film will be scored by Giacchino or am I remembering wrong?
Looks cool, even though the first thing that came to my mind was Masters of the Universe. This film will be scored by Giacchino or am I remembering wrong?
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:37 PM
Yep, Giacchino
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:50 PM
The film has a epic scope that cries for a huge score. Let's hope Giacchino will deliver.
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 04:00 PM
Looks dreadful, only slightly better then the new Conan film.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 04:03 PM
The fact is that the Fantasy genre is becoming more and more tiring and deją-vu, so it's hard to get excited by a trailer.
However, this film has Pixar folks behind it, so there's potential for something good. At least I hope so.
However, this film has Pixar folks behind it, so there's potential for something good. At least I hope so.
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 04:13 PM
It won't be scored by Jablonsky or Djawadi. That's virtually unheard of these days, for this kind of a movie.Looks dreadful, only slightly better then the new Conan film.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things well throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. Theres nothing frenetic about it. Its very simple. Theres a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 04:17 PM
Looks way better than Conan. I like it, but I'm not enthusiastic yet. I hope the film itself changes my mind.
I'm not much familiar with the character but I do follow Stanton's films so I'll see it.
I like the shot of Mars' moons at 1:16.
I'm not much familiar with the character but I do follow Stanton's films so I'll see it.
I like the shot of Mars' moons at 1:16.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:22 PM
John Carter trailer
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:40 PM
Looks like a B-movie. Is it one?
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:45 PM
Nope. I think it's rated PG.Looks like a B-movie. Is it one?
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 05:44 AM
John Carter trailer
It looks Disney. No, thanks!
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:19 PM
A new picture from John Carter
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:37 PM
Horrible composition.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:53 PM
Looks like AOTC arena scene.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:56 PM
Oh, it's an arena scene then?
I thought he's dragging something (that is off-screen) to have a better look at this banner behind.
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I thought he's dragging something (that is off-screen) to have a better look at this banner behind.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things well throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. Theres nothing frenetic about it. Its very simple. Theres a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:02 PM
The problem with adapting John Carter is that, despite being the originator of lots of imitated ideas, now it could seem unoriginal and that is ripping lots of stuff from other works. Case in point.Looks like AOTC arena scene.
An effect also possibly influenced by being packaged like other Disney products like Pirates of the Caribbean. No room for certain things, like nude humanoid aliens, or such humanoid aliens laying eggs, or whatever.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:40 PM
There already has been a trailer. The first shot didn't look good but the ones you posted have some nice detail and design.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:11 PM
And here is John Carter Of Jupiter second trailer:
The official website has been updated, by the way.
The official website has been updated, by the way.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:16 PM
Sorry but that looks utterly ridiculous.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:19 PM
As a trailer is less accomplished than the first one. Most people won't know what the hell they just saw in the trailer.
As for the film: the green martians look cool. I like the Return of the Jedi-like tecnology, and the character jumping around. I also like they use the XIXth century setting and the use of liight in several shots mainly from the previous trailer.
However, the princess character is bugging me, as is Mark Strong with glowing eyes and it might look too much like photoshopped Utah at times. The now dull title is also something to dislike.
As for the film: the green martians look cool. I like the Return of the Jedi-like tecnology, and the character jumping around. I also like they use the XIXth century setting and the use of liight in several shots mainly from the previous trailer.
However, the princess character is bugging me, as is Mark Strong with glowing eyes and it might look too much like photoshopped Utah at times. The now dull title is also something to dislike.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:20 PM
You don't have to be sorry about that.Sorry but that looks utterly ridiculous.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:39 PM
It's a subgenre deader than disco.
The funny side of things is, we get a John Carter film. But don't think about getting a Red Mars film.
The funny side of things is, we get a John Carter film. But don't think about getting a Red Mars film.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 08:06 PM
I still have hope because of Stanton and Giacchino. It's a mass marketed film, resorting to Led Zeppelin for a space epic. Although it did get a bit interesting when it got orchestral/choral. Wonder who did that arrangement.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 08:10 PM
I think it will be a good film.
As for the score, I'm really curious at how it will be like. That happens to me with very few composers nowadays.
As for the score, I'm really curious at how it will be like. That happens to me with very few composers nowadays.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:12 PM
It's interesting we're seeing live-action movies coming from Pixar alumni. Brad Bird and Andrew Stanton have both proved themselves to be fantastic at directing in animation, may they prove as successful in live-action.
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 02:28 PM
Three banners for John Carter
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 04:25 PM
I really like the creatures.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 04:29 PM
You do? No wonder you and I never agree, Chaac.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 04:51 PM
The movie looks like the bastard child of Lucas and Emmerich.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:01 PM
It looks really moronic.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:08 PM
There are several things I tend to see differently to other people.You do? No wonder you and I never agree, Chaac.
I appreciate how the designs of the creatures reflects the madness that the film appears to be.
The mounts in the banner correspond to an Earthly niche I always liked. It looks like an alien version of a big Permian animal, like a pareiasaur or some therapsid. The six legs are innecesary, but it was already like that in the novel. The eyes are located exactly where it would be odd to us. However the long tail departs from what's usual in the Earth animals that seem to be the model, plus making it flat adds to the weirdness. I also like how the green Martian uses two arms for riding while he can use the other two for fighting.
The small creature at the side of the mounts is hilarious. It's also like a crazy therapsid, most people will see it like a reptilian dog. It can keep its mouth shut and seem normal and with puppy eyes, but then it opens it and you see it's an enormous mouth with shark-like theeth. The stupidly big head is only there to support the large mouth!
As for the big white things, they look like something that would eat plants in outrageous quantities, but at the same time they're blind, as if such a big creature lived underground. I like the crazyness of it.
Bonus: this is rightly set at the end of the XIXth century, where stuff like this was starting to get thought and written. The moons in the sky look nothing like the actual Phobos and Deimos. It would be fitting if they put something like Lowell's canals in the film. This stuff makes it easier to accept what's being seen on screen. In the end this is something from a different era, where other worlds weren'r ironically, so alien to us. Which is probably why it looks retarded to a lot of people.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:15 PM
I found these pics and videos on Twitter from the John Carter scoring sessions:
http://twitter.com/#...1539969/photo/1
http://yfrog.com/nizrwz
http://twitter.com/#...4057986/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...4032768/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...2218496/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...4907648/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...8608384/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...5700224/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...1539969/photo/1
http://yfrog.com/nizrwz
http://twitter.com/#...4057986/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...4032768/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...2218496/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...4907648/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...8608384/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#...5700224/photo/1
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:26 PM
The video is upside down...
Oh look Dan Wallin! I so wish Michael would pull a Trump, and on upside down camera go "You're fired!"
This score will suck, if nothing else because Wallin will see to it any epic sound is muffled behind three or four walls.
Oh look Dan Wallin! I so wish Michael would pull a Trump, and on upside down camera go "You're fired!"
This score will suck, if nothing else because Wallin will see to it any epic sound is muffled behind three or four walls.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:33 PM
By that reasoning almost all Giacchino's scores should suck.
And they do, but only on sound department. (Many sound decent enough though)
And they do, but only on sound department. (Many sound decent enough though)
I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:38 PM
I found a picture that shows some cue titles and some slate numbers.I found these pics and videos on Twitter from the John Carter scoring sessions:
"I get asked all the time, 'What happens after Return of the Jedi?,' and there really is no answer for that. The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that's where that story ends."
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