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[luke905]

This is a fan trailer edited by me starting from HD videos available on the web (trailer and TV spots), assembled on the track "Sab Than Pursues the Princess" from the original soundtrack composed by Michael Giacchino.

This is a working version that still lacks dialogues and sound effects (except in the first part).

My purpose is not to create a story trailer, as was done skillfully by others, but rather to create an audio-visual editing that convey the fantasy-adventure essence of the Andrew Stanton's movie (feature totally absent from the trailer released by Disney in my opinion).

[Chaac]

You've got a really fantastic idea there for a trailer. Might need some trimming down (at the end of the big jump, the moment of the cuts and the music feel a bit off).

I love that you start going all out with action in the mode they usually use at the end of a trailer. Then, with the Thern music, you go ssh, and after establishing great action you give a sense of mystery and something going on. The moment with the jump, the fanfare, and the ending is great (I would use other clip instead of the rescuing moment).

[Matt C]

people forget that even Scorsese's Hugo was a massive disaster and lost a ton of money. The case with Hugo was possibly worse because it was financed out of the studio system.

Wrong. GK Films financed Hugo entirely, Paramount just distributed it. But its financial woes are nothing compared to JC's... at least Hugo found an audience throughout its theatrical run. Its international cume of $179M isn't breaking even on the $175M production budget (the studios only got half of it), but they're better off than Disney.

[luke905]

You've got a really fantastic idea there for a trailer. Might need some trimming down (at the end of the big jump, the moment of the cuts and the music feel a bit off).

I love that you start going all out with action in the mode they usually use at the end of a trailer. Then, with the Thern music, you go ssh, and after establishing great action you give a sense of mystery and something going on. The moment with the jump, the fanfare, and the ending is great (I would use other clip instead of the rescuing moment).

Thanks, you are extremely kind.
I assembled it about a month before the film's release,with the available materials released at the time (two trailers and someTV commercials): unfortunately due to commitments I have not finished it,but I still decided to upload it on the web.
I hope to create a final version when the movie comes out on Blu-ray.

[Northwest21]

He could be the next Jerry Goldsmith.

I'm sure Jerry would have loved to have a $200 million movie, even if it did tank. Giacchino will be fine I suspect.

[Ro Sajooc]

He could be the next Jerry Goldsmith.

I'm sure Jerry would have loved to have a $200 million movie, even if it did tank. Giacchino will be fine I suspect.

Maybe you're right, Giacchino's career is too young after all.

[BloodBoal]

[BloodBoal]

OK, I'm trying to gather every info we have on John Carter's cue list. So far, here's what I've found (the cues with slate numbers are from pictures from the recording sessions, the cues with no slate numbers are from ASCAP website):


1m1-1m2 Zodanga Happy To Meet You
1m6 Diary Of A Cavalry Man
1m10 Get Carter
1m11-1m12 Lozem Geyn/Sure Ain't Apache
2m16 Helium Is A-Gassed
2m17 Dejah's View
2m18-2m19 Dark Side Of Barsoom
3m21 Thark Nursery
3m26 Carter? I Barely Know Her!
3m27 I’m On Mars
3m28 Ins ???
4m29 ???
4m33 The River Iss
5m36 ???
5M38 ???
6M45 The Right Of Challenge
6m46 (Choir Overlay) ???
6M47 The Fight For Helium
7m54 End Titles Part 5

Embalming Is A Non-Starter
End Credits Of Mars (well, pretty self-explanatory)
Escaping Strings Pt. 1
Escaping Strings Pt. 2
Future Prospects
Hop, Snip And A Jump
Iss Must Be The Place
John Carter Of Mars
Jumping John (Gravity Of The Situation?)
Jumping The Thark (The first encounter between John and Tars Tarkas?)
Mars Sounds Much Better (Probably from the scene toward the end of the film, when John says "John Carter Of Mars sounds so much better")
Not Afraid Of The Thark
Rebranding Sola (The scene where Sola gets burned with the glowing iron?)
Runaway Bride (Sab Than Pursues The Princess?)
Sab Then Surrenders To Helium (Probably the cue right after Carter They Come, Carter They Fall)
Smarmy Sarkoja
Supplies And Demands
Swimming With Tharks
Thark Party (The source music for the Tharks party where John Carter kills one of them?)
The Gates Of Iss
Thern Threat (A Thern Warning?)
Time To Go Home
Torturous Drums (Probably the source music for the scene where Sola gets burned with the glowing iron)
Welcome Back Carter
Worlds Worst Nursery (Probably the cue for the scene where John gets all "cleaned up" by the Tharks) Probably for the moment where Carter stumbles upon the baby Tharks (suggested by Miles Prower. And he's probably right...)
Zodangan Proposal



If anyone knows in which order the cues are supposed to be (or which scene there are referring to), please tell me so that I can update my post.

I'll post the cue list in the Complete Cue Lists thread once we'll have put it (more or less) in the right order.

Sources :
https://www.ascap.co...arch/index.aspx
http://yfrog.com/obmbafj
http://twitter.com/m...9/photo/1/large
http://moniquedonnel...01/img_6298.jpg
http://www.marklevan...11/IMG_1067.jpg
http://img542.images.../6m47helium.png

[Ro Sajooc]

I'm also trying to compile the cue list. I hope to finish it soon.

[Jim Ware]

If you *really* squint at that cue sheet...

1m01-1m02 Zodanga Happy to Meet You
1m10 Get Carter

2m17 Dejah's View

3m26 - Carter? I Hardly Know Her!
3m27 - I'm On Mars

Torturous Drums is credited to Chris Tilton.

[Miles Prower]

World's Worst Nursery would probably be the moment where Carter stumbles upon the baby Tharks.

[BloodBoal]

Thanks for the info, Jim. I updated the post.

I also added a few slate numbers for some cues, which I missed on one of the pics I posted as a source (this one:http://yfrog.com/z/obmbafj)

World's Worst Nursery would probably be the moment where Carter stumbles upon the baby Tharks.

So, this is either 1m13, 1m14 or 1m15 (or 2m13, 2m14 or 2m15)...

Well, I think 1m13 (or 2m13) is probably Jumping John (Gravity Of The Situation), 1m14/2m14 is World's Worst Nursery and 1m15/2m15 is Jumping The Thark.

[Ro Sajooc]

1m11-1m12 Lozem Geyn/Sure ???

This is called 1M11/12 Lozem Geyn/Sure Ain't Apache

[BloodBoal]

OK, thanks for that, I updated my post.

What's the source, though? Are you saying that based on the film (since they say something like that in that part of the film), or did you find that title somewhere else?



P.S.: Note that I also added 7m54 End Titles Part 5, since I find this pic:http://moniquedonnel...01/img_6298.jpg

[Ro Sajooc]

OK, thanks for that, I updated my post.

What's the source, though? Are you saying that based on the film (since they say something like that in that part of the film), or did you find that title somewhere else?



P.S.: Note that I also added 7m54 End Titles Part 5, since I find this pic:http://moniquedonnel...01/img_6298.jpg

The quote appears in the film, when Carter enters in the cave first time, Powell says "This place sure ain't Apache". I also found the title on ASCAP site, but it's odd this no longer appears on the web.

[BloodBoal]

So, does anyone has another source for cue titles or slate numbers?

[Jason LeBlanc]

Yes. I will reveal them all when I post my complete score analysis

[BloodBoal]

And what's your progression on that? 25% finished? 50%? 74,6%?

[Jason LeBlanc]

0%

But now that vacation is over and we actually got some stuff done around the house I should have more free time to work on this kind of stuff.

[BloodBoal]

Mmmmmokay. You better start right now!

[BloodBoal]

So... What's the status on your complete score analysis, LeBlanc?

[Jason LeBlanc]

I wasn't able to take the vacation off from work I was hoping to take yet. Soon.

[BloodBoal]

You workaholic!

[Ro Sajooc]

OK, I'm trying to gather every info we have on John Carter's cue list.

I've found two new cue titles (with slate numbers):

6m45 The Right of Challenge
6m47 The Fight for Helium

Sources:
www.marklevan...11/IMG_1067.jpg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW8VlqIdg18 (at 2:16)
imageshack.us...6m47helium.png/ (Shot)

[BloodBoal]

Thanks for that! Updated the post with the cue list.

I guess that 6M46 is The Prize Is Barzoom, then. But is the track title the same as the cue title, though? Now that's the real question!