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[Faleel]

Persuit of Dejah is good.

[Matt C]

Persuit of Dejah is good.

Ditto. I'm not feeling Dejah and Carter's themes though.

[Jason LeBlanc]

The Ape Fight cue that David Garland mentioned sounds great, can't wait to hear it

[Blumenkohl]

I don't think anything in Star Trek soudns MV-ish and I never understood why people thought so

The loud parts are rather crude and to-the-point as orchestration goes, although it's fun in small doses. I can imagine someone as Williams-spoiled as KM might find this offensive. He certainly hates Goldsmith's NEMESIS, too, since it 's 'plagued' by the same roughness.

King Mark also seems cold towards War Horse for the same reasons.

He's consistent. I'll give him that.

[king mark]

I usually like the style of scores that's opposite to what Koray likes . If he likes it a lot it's pretty certain I won't

That seems to apply to Williams and Giacchino scores too

I like Medal of Honor main themes, Let Me In, Super 8 and this new one, Koray likes the tense music in Lost

PS I like War Horse a lot... did I ever say I didn't .It's Tintin that leaves me a bit cold

[king mark]

Wait I hear TINTIN'S heroic theme at 4.44 of Pursuit of Dejah

[indy4]

The clips sound decent. I hear a lot of M:i:III in "Pursuit of Dejah," and some Super 8 in "John Carter's Theme." And a bit of Horner and Desplat in "Dejah's Theme."

[Jason LeBlanc]

Wait I hear TINTIN'S heroic theme at 4.44 of Pursuit of Dejah

WOAH! It's almost identical!

[BloodBoal]

Wow.

Pursuit of The Falcon, 4:17
Pursuit of Dejah, 4:44

Giacchino, you filthy whore!

[Chaac]

Already pointed out.

I think it's a recurring idea for the Green Martian dude.

[Koray Savas]

I usually like the style of scores that's opposite to what Koray likes . If he likes it a lot it's pretty certain I won't

That seems to apply to Williams and Giacchino scores too

I like Medal of Honor main themes, Let Me In, Super 8 and this new one, Koray likes the tense music in Lost

PS I like War Horse a lot... did I ever say I didn't .It's Tintin that leaves me a bit cold

But I love all of Giacchino's music, aside from some of his recent stuff. War Horse is my favorite score of the year and I don't like Tintin.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Cars 2 and Monte Carlo are the only Giacchino scores you don't like?

[Chaac]

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[Koray Savas]

Cars 2 and Monte Carlo are the only Giacchino scores you don't like?

Not a huge fan of Super 8 or Star Trek, at least compared to his other work. They have some great cues but I rarely listen to them. The scores work much better in their respective films.

Land Of The Lost is average.

Cars 2, Monte Carlo, and 50/50 aren't particularly good.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Was there a 50/50 score CD?

[Koray Savas]

No, but I've seen the film. It's not really fair to say it's a bad score, since the movie favors songs over traditional scoring. What's there is nice, but nothing special; but again, it's not like he got a chance to really do anything.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Cars 2 and Monte Carlo are the only Giacchino scores you don't like?

Not a huge fan of Super 8 or Star Trek, at least compared to his other work. They have some great cues but I rarely listen to them. The scores work much better in their respective films.

Land Of The Lost is average.

Cars 2, Monte Carlo, and 50/50 aren't particularly good.

Koray I didn't realize you were such a hipster

[Richard Penna]

Wow.

Pursuit of The Falcon, 4:17
Pursuit of Dejah, 4:44

Giacchino, you filthy whore!

If it weren't for that awesome moment in Falcon, I'd prefer Dejah.

I love the heroic theme in John Carter though (50:20 in the show). I think I'll like this score.

[king mark]

I keep listening to the Youtube clips. I like this more and more

[Blumenkohl]

I'm also surprised at how much I keep going back to the clips.

Everyone is chit-chatting about the action music which is great. But Dejah's theme...which starts a little Lost like...builds into one of the best tracks I've heard in a long long long long long long time.

Just listen to it with your full attention from beginning to end. This isn't a Michael Giacchino's Lost-like 4 or 5 note theme. This is a full on theme in the ancient sense from the hey-day of film music. Wonderful stuff.

[Chaac]

I love it.

Someone give us Therns and Ape Fight please.

Or just the whole film and score.

[Richard Penna]

When Giacchino says the music hasn't been mastered, what exactly does that entail?

For video editing, I do things like amplifying quieter parts and maybe adding some reverb if the recording is a bit dry - what else do they have to do for the film? It sounded pretty typical Giacchino to me on the radio.

[indy4]

Saw a trailer for this. Looks like they took the arena scene from AotC.

[Chaac]

Saw a trailer for this. Looks like they took the arena scene from AotC.

Looks like AotC took the arena scene from John Carter.

[BloodBoal]

Saw a trailer for this. Looks like they took the arena scene from AotC.

Looks like AotC took the arena scene from John Carter.

Looks like Chaac took the arena scene quote from indy4

[Blumenkohl]

Saw a trailer for this. Looks like they took the arena scene from AotC.

Looks like AotC took the arena scene from John Carter.

Looks like Chaac took the arena scene quote from indy4

Looks like indy4 took the Chaac from Bloodboal.

[Faleel]

Shield Generator's been hit!


You catch on pretty quick.

[BloodBoal]

New Japanese trailer:

[Luke Skywalker]

is it known when disney will release the score?

[EhTar]

is it known when disney will release the score?

On March, the 6th !

Look here: http://www.amazon.co...6882538&sr=8-11

[Ro Sajooc]

I'm sure the disc will feature a few pop songs.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Hooray for a physical CD!

[Ro Sajooc]

A new clip from John Carter score is available on the official site.

http://disney.go.com/johncarter/

[Jason LeBlanc]

So it is!

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/johncarter/media/loop.mp3

[Ro Sajooc]

I also found these interesting pictures

http://yfrog.com/obmbafj
http://twitter.com/#...8790529/photo/1

[Chaac]

What? The River Iss? The River in the trailers is the Iss? That early in the series? That's new!

So it is!

http://a.dolimg.com/franchise/johncarter/media/loop.mp3

That's most likely the music for the Therns.

[Donna Lackluster]

Giacchino? Is for kids.

[luke905]

I uploaded the short clip on YouTube:

[igger6]

I actually think that moment of similarity between "Pursuit of Dejah" and "Pursuit of the Falcon" shows exactly why Giacchino is our last, best hope. Tintin's release is recent enough, and the passage fleeting enough, that it's plainly not plagiarism, and anyone who plays by the Maestro's rules as dutifully as Giacchino does is bound to hit upon a few sequences of notes that JW has used at some point in the last 45 years. Plus, there are just certain musical intervals and tricks that match certain emotions (e.g. all those major-sixth love themes from JW's golden age). The "up high, down low, up slightly higher" pattern that overlaps in the two cues has been wowing 'em since Star Wars and probably well before. What's remarkable in comparing the two is the vast difference even an inversion of two notes and a slight change in timing can produce. Tintin's heroic theme sounds heroic but also quirky, offbeat, and even a little childish, while the Giacchino riff sounds noble and militaristic—each suited (presumably) to its context.

But my point is that we can't bemoan contemporary film music's general lack of intelligence, thematic complexity, and orchestral prominence out of one side of our mouths and then tar anyone who attempts it as a JW-cloning hack. (I exaggerate the charge, obviously, and I don't know anyone's tastes well enough to say who's accusing whom of what. I just want to point out that anyone who can be accused of sounding like John Williams has already earned my rapt attention, if not my outright devotion.)

And Blumenkohl's dead-on about "Dejah's Theme." I'm not thrilled by the melody, but the construction and the orchestration are classic.

[KK.]

Why does everyone make it seem like Giacchino is the "last man" left to keep up the film music world? He's a great composer, but people have got to stop making his placement so dramatic. There are still many talented film composers out there who sustain quality and intelligence in film music. And Giacchino is not the "next John Williams", its ridiculous to think anyone is going to be the next JW.

As great a composer as he is, people have got to stop making him seem like our future saviour of the upcoming "apocalypse" or something...