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[Miles Prower]

So I dropped by Intrada today, picked up this and Exorcist II. Will follow up later, but so far I'm enjoying this.

[Trent Bennett]

I really hope I have my replacement copy either today or tomorrow. Sorta irritating the original one got lost in the mail. First time it's ever happened with an order directly from Intrada.

I did get my replacement CD today, yay!

[OneBuckFilms]

So what do you make of the CD, Trent?

[tharpdevenport]

I remember I bought a CD from a guy in Canada. After a long time, it never came and I was going to ask for a replacement of refund, but then, suddenly, a beat-up, torn packaged arrived over a month later.

From tiem-to-time, as security demands, customs will inspect every package, often opening things and taping them back shut.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Trent lives in Utah, not a foreign country

[tharpdevenport]

I was just saying, plus they do it inside America, too. And I've had packages arrive, from nearby,m two to three weeks later.

[Trent Bennett]

Jason is right. Even with first class mail it wouldn't take nearly 2 weeks from packages to go from California to Utah. I should know I've sent off first class packages before from here to there and took about a day longer maybe two at the most than Priority Mail.

[tharpdevenport]

Yes, it can -- as an ex Postal employee, I can tell you that. In fact, when you pay for something like Priority delivery which is two to three days and it doesn't arrive, just ask your Post Office clerk about it; he'll tell you, "Well, we can't gurantee that" (which begs the question: then why charge for it and not refund when what you paid for isn't accomplished).

It all depends on personnel, whether or not mail is being checked, holidays, cut hours, etc. A packaged mailed goes to your post office. Then a trucks pick up the mail two or three times a day and delivery it to a processing center to distribute it by counties and states. Then it is sent to another processing center in your state, which then sorts it by counties and arranges the mail in delivering order. Then it may or may not go to another processing center, before arriving at which ever postal location handles you address; each office handles mail for different section of a mid to large city.

Keep in mind you also are expecting hte package during a period where typically many deliveries from holiday ordering (what's that day called online where people order?) start arriving.



If you typically get your mail in a timely fashio, congratulations -- you've been very, very lucky.

[Wojo]

Don't ever buy something online on Christmas Eve, pay for rush processing and priority shipping, and expect to see it before Epiphany. You're just wasting money.

[tharpdevenport]

FSM member (Maestro Sartori) did this:

I thought I'd whip up what hearing the separated cues from the track "In San Francisco" would sound like against their intended scenes.

Here's "Boarding a Bus":

"In Chinatown":

"Nuclear Wessels":

"The Cetacean Institute":

"Mercy Hospital":

"Nuclear Wessels" is blocked; claims it's block in my country, but I call bullshit; all the clips are from the same film. I think it's a flagged video because it has a key word like "nuclear" in it, awaiting staff viewing to make sure.


I have mixed feelings about them. I can certainly hear the TV-like scoring of it. But in a couple, I think it actually kind of works.
"The Cetacean Institute" actually, I feel, gives her characters a lovely more positive feeling. I think it actually hightened her.


Hearing that muted trumpet(?) doing the theme as McCoy passes the old lady in the hall in "Mercy Hospital", I think fits his cranky, but well meaning character.

[Marian Schedenig]

Nearly beat Trent to it, but only nearly. Got mine today.

[Trent Bennett]

Nearly beat Trent to it, but only nearly. Got mine today.

Awesome.

[OneBuckFilms]

Incidentally, I went through tracks 2,4 and 7, extracted the individual cues, and placed them in film order, along with "I Hate You".

The score itself is now something like 26 cues.

[Trent Bennett]

What an interesting turn of events. In my mail box today there was a package. Wondering who it was from I took it out and saw the Intrada label on it. I was thinking, "Hmmm interesting, wonder if it's my original copy for Star Trek IV". I looked at the date stamped onto it and sure enough it said January 4th.

So feeling guilty about having this extra copy I emailed Intrada and asked them what to do with it. Basically asked if I should keep it or send it back to them. They wrote back saying for me to right "Refused - Return To Sender". I am heading to St. George tomorrow to get my iPhone replaced and while I'm out I'll stop by the post office and drop that off.

Of course IF they gave me the ok to keep it I would have sent it to someone.

[OneBuckFilms]

I have to say, I've been enjoying this CD a lot.

In some ways, I think this has been very much a misjudged score.

It's different because of the film it was composed for, and I find myself listening to it more often that I thought I would.

[MrJosh]

I've always liked the OST so I'm really excited to get this, I hope they wont be gone when I get paid next week....!!

[tharpdevenport]

Welcoem to the club, Trent. ;-)


Now, next club to join, unless you've already joined, is the one where you check the mail box but it's emtpy and foot prints are leading away from it.

[Hedji]

Yay, Trent! Enjoy it my friend!

I happen to think this is a marvelous score. It's crime against fanboyism is being so radically different from its predecessors. Frankly, by the end of STIII, I am a little tired of Horner's use of the Spock theme and the "B" theme, and the whole melancholy texture of it all. In that respect, I find Rosenman's score to be a breath of fresh air. I've also got to chuckle at accusations of it sounding too "Christmassy". The film was released around Thanksgiving in 1986, and I've always thought of it as a Holiday release. So for me, the use of chimes give it a nice celebratory feel. Good stuff!

[Joe Brausam]

I've always liked the OST so I'm really excited to get this, I hope they wont be gone when I get paid next week....!!

No worries there...it's unlimited!

[Trent Bennett]

Joe is right, any MAF title Intrada releases is unlimited.

What really bugged me about my package was the original should have only taken as long as the replacement took. I know I would have gotten the replacement on Monday if it had not been for MLK day.

As I said I've been getting packages from California and I've sent packages to California since I've been living here in Utah (2004). I know damn well how long it should take, even with first class mail.

People back east got theirs very quickly (within 2-3 days of Intrada sending them out) yet it took 13 days for my original to show up when as I said I damn well know it shouldn't have.

Tharp I know you say you're an ex-post office employee but I'm telling you from MY experience it should NOT have taken as long as it did for my original CD to show up from California. Especially since the replacement got here in the normal time frame the original SHOULD HAVE taken.

It was NOT the fault of Intrada. The damn post office really dropped the ball on the original package.

I've gotten packages from Intrada directly before as well as La-La Land, and SAE and all have always showed up in the 2-3 (max 4) day time frame. This was literally the first package to have taken this long and it should NOT have.

Sorry but I really get irritated when people think they know better...even if you're an ex-employee. I'm telling you from MY experience from sending and recieving packages out the same way for the last almost 8 years.

[OneBuckFilms]

Well, onbe person's view of the performance of any large organization is limited to that one viewpoint.

If I work in a Complaints department, I might think a company may be really crappy, yet objectively, I'm not going to see all of the things that are done right.

99.9% of the time, the post office has been fine by me, reliable and punctual.

But once in a while, somthing will get held up or lost.

It will happen in any sufficiently large organization, simply due to the human factor.

**it happens

[Trent Bennett]

This is probably the second time in 8 years I've had a package take this long to arrive. The other time was when I ordered something from Movie Music and it took a couple extra days to get here. I think it was because around that time it was a holiday weekend like last weekend. Otherwise I would have gotten it in the usual 2-3 days when I order from Peter.

[tharpdevenport]

The contiunation, or fluxuation thereof, in services, is never guranteed to be constant or steady. The amount of years you've experienced is irrelevant, it's not you handling the package, it's the Post Office.

You think you're miffed now, wait until your regular carried get old and retire and you're at the hand of newbies, and when the Post Office cuts back hours and carriers to avoid financial disaster (more so than now).

Now thing in life is free of bumps. This was a bump.

Now, get over it.



Unless you'd like to hear some mroe horry stories of what can happen.


OneBuckFilms, you're forgetting each location is not isolated. It's at the mercy of delivery and ability of mail from other locations, like one big ball of fucked-up-ness. Then in the rare instance it happens, every single location is at the mercy of the Congress, which sets the rules (being given the Post Office under the Constitution -- part of why it's BROKEN -- the government is running it into the ground and the USPS can't change things enough to save themselves).

[Kendal_Ozzel]

I just gave this a listen today. Finally got it yesterday along with The Undiscovered Country. The sound is considerably clearer than the OST! And interesting liner notes, as usual. I never realized Spock had a theme in the score. So has my opinion of the score improved? A little bit, yes.

Also interesting to learn from Rosenman that it is impossible for film composers to develop a style unless they've had concert music training.

[John Crichton]

"I Hate You" is my new favorite piece of source music.