First boom-tzzzz?

[indy4 160]

When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works?

[Rachael Foley 10,162]

When williams tested out chemistry

star wars?

[hornist 1,261]

I think the first boom-tzzzz here was born in 10 Apr 2005.http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showuser=1595

[Andy 7,728]

There is quite a bit in the Asteroid Field.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=zKa7VzA16Vg

Listen at about 1:15.

[hornist 1,261]

I can't find it with that link?

[indy4 160]

There is quite a bit in the Asteroid Field.

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=zKa7VzA16Vg

Listen at about 1:15.

Oh, good spy. These variations certainly aren't as prominent as Williams' modern ones, but they definitely qualify.

[indy4 160]

I recently heard this piece written in 2006, which uses boom-tzzz pretty prominently at 2:49 (the composer studied with Goldsmith, so I'm sure he's fairly familiar with Williams' work). It got me thinking, out of curiosity, does anybody know if any composers used boom-tzzz before Williams?

[Rachael Foley 10,162]

There is quite a bit in the Asteroid Field.

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=zKa7VzA16Vg

Listen at about 1:15.

Oh, good spy. These variations certainly aren't as prominent as Williams' modern ones, but they definitely qualify.

I would have to say Raiders (Flying Wing/Desert Chase), TOD (Short Round Helps), or Hook.

[Thor 9,362]

I'm not sure what 'boom-tzz' means. Are you talking about a timpani hit followed by a cymbal crash of some sort?

[Josh500 1,620]

When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works?

Okay, what's the difference between a modern and an old boom-tzzzzz?

Jaws doesn't contain a boom-tzzz, does it?

[ymenard 68]

Yes it does imho.

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

I'm not sure what 'boom-tzz' means. Are you talking about a timpani hit followed by a cymbal crash of some sort?

Bass drum followed by piatti (crash cymbal) hit.

[Jilal 681]

When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works?

Okay, what's the difference between a modern and an old boom-tzzzzz?

Jaws doesn't contain a boom-tzzz, does it?

I think that Man Against Beast contains a boom-tsss

[indy4 160]

When is the earliest use of boom-tzzz by JW? I hear some earlier prototypes of it in "Olympic Fanfare" (1984), but these are pretty different than the modern boom-tzzz. First modern variation that I'm aware of is in Far and Away (1994), in "The Land Race." Do any predate either of these works?

Okay, what's the difference between a modern and an old boom-tzzzzz?

Well, to me it seems that as Williams has gotten older, the boom-tzzz has gotten more prominent. In the 70s and 80s it was more of a background noise, but starting in the 90s (and also in some of his Olympic work) he's really brought it to the forefront. I mean, in Tintin we get the boom-tzzzz in the beginning of "Clash of the Cranes" without any other accompaniment.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

His earlier boom-tzzzz came from his innermost soul. it was an stylistic signature.

These days he's just doin' it for da fans!

[Jilal 681]

Didn't anyone notice the 9 boom-tzzz's in "More Kelso"?

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

asteroid field contains a lot os tzz-booms.

i love when williams goes wild with them, like in the TLW finale fues

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

At 0:26 in "Sail Barge Assault", when Luke jumps off the plank, is a great boom-tzzz.

[Gurkensalat 385]

Of course, it is all stolen from Beethovens 6th Symphony, 4th movement "Storm", where Beethoven disregards the fact that thunder comes after the flash.

[Jilal 681]

Oh. Interesting.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

ummm... Military marches have loads of boom-tzz, i doubt beethoven invented them...

maybe its a renmant of Williams army days, he like the power of that sound and used it for his works.

Many of his works have a military vibe to them even if they are not marches (Olympic works for example)

[Gurkensalat 385]

I hope, my comment was recognizable as a humorous attempt...

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

i dont know much beethoven, you could have been serious...

[gkgyver 1,647]

John Williams' very first boom-tzzz happened after the very moment he was born, when the doctor took a first glance at him and instantly saw the genius and saviour of film music history in him, and dropped a glass of water. Boom-tzzz!

[pixie_twinkle 60]

Hanser's comment isn't that far from the truth though. Beethoven has the bass drum "booms", but the tzzz is played by the violins, not cymbals. Check out this video, especially from 0:45 to 0:55.