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Posted 18 January 2012 - 04:21 AM

Indeed, if it actually is the complete complete score as intended and recorded plus alternates, this will finally be a Sony release I can buy.

Since this probably won't be complete, they all got screwed.

Probabely it will be a re-issue package with some unwanted extras.



FSM post on it:

Don't get too excited, guys -- from what I hear it won't be a "FSM" kind of presentation.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 04:37 AM

Titanic and Back to Titanic are more than enough of the movie's music for me. Too much, actually, when you try to put all tracks into a combined album, including the long suite on BTT with Hymn to the Ocean on the original album.

I have zero interest in hearing film edits instead of whatever album edits that I've been used to. For as few times as I've listened to the soundtrack in recent memory, I have watched the movie beginning to end even fewer. "Film edits" are irrelevant if you disregard the movie. If I need Horner from that era, I just alternate with Apollo 13 and Braveheart tracks.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 05:53 AM

Titanic is one of my least favorite James Horner scores along with Braveheart (the only 2 film scores women seem to be into)

In other words I don't care a bit about this release.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:45 AM

(the only 2 film scores women seem to be into)


That means there's still hope.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:09 AM

If there is something worthwhile on this set, I might buy it.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:46 PM

Titanic is one of my least favorite James Horner scores along with Braveheart


I agree about Braveheart. Titanic is OK.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:18 PM

The Braveheart CD always bored me.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:25 PM

It's one of Horner's best scores and one of the best of the decade. Romantic, epic, adventurous.
It's a pity some people with short attention spans don't take the effort to get to know it.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:36 PM

It's one of Horner's worst scores and one of the worst of the decade. Boring, tedious, repetitive.
It's a pity some people who don't know better seem so enjoy it so much.


I agree.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

LOL

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:44 PM

LOL


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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:46 PM

Hey that's abuse of power!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:58 PM

Titanic and Back to Titanic are more than enough of the movie's music for me. Too much, actually, when you try to put all tracks into a combined album, including the long suite on BTT with Hymn to the Ocean on the original album.

I agree that the albums together are too much. I think the listening experience would be better overall with the missing bits and pieces and film versions, but not the Back to Titanic material.

It's a guilty pleasure score, but it can be pretty offensive between the (at times) cheesy sound, synth, trademark Horner similarities, that ******* clanging sound in action cues, etc. There is some pretty neat stuff missing like the introductory cues. The main titles and dive scene are begging to be on this.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:43 PM

What is the clanging sound, by the way. He uses it in Aliens also
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:43 PM

Yes. It's a Horner trademark.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:48 PM

http://vinilo.fm/Not...inal-de-Titanic

ROTFLMAO

Sony improves on failing every time. I really thought there would be at least two or three new score tracks or so on those 2 new CDs.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:50 PM

Titanic: The Epic Fail Edition

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 03:57 PM

Titanic: The Epic Fail Edition

Yeah, they like totally botched it, like, man. Like whoah like epically man.

Oh well, not a great loss to me since I am not a huge fan of the score. But damn Sony is an awful and clueless label.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:51 PM

Not only will I NOT purchase this, but I'll also make sure to recommend to everyone I know NOT to purchase it as well. I know quite a few non-score fans who like this one and I'll do my best to make sure they don't buy it.

What a ridiculous joke.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:04 PM

Meh.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:13 PM

I wasn't ever going to buy it anyway, regardless of its contents. I have a personal boycott against Sony for some recent political bullshit.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:29 PM

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:33 PM

Titanic: The Epic Fail Edition

Which is actually quite fitting.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:15 AM

Yeah, I'm drunk right now, but Jesus Christ. What is that 4th disc? A Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight on the soundtrack for a movie that has most people freezing to death in the end? WHAT is this shit?
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:23 AM

Yeah, I'm drunk right now, but Jesus Christ. What is that 4th disc? A Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight on the soundtrack for a movie that has most people freezing to death in the end? WHAT is this shit?


It's exactly that...shit.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:33 AM

Each track title that starts with "A" seem to get more and more cheesy. A Promise Kept, A Life So Changed, An Ocean of Memories, A Shore Never Reached...those last two are freakin' puns!

indy4 - who'd hate to see the reaction of this board if we got wind of a 4 CD RotS release, only to discover a similar track list
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:57 AM

Worse than I even imagined. A fail bigger than the ship itself! LOL

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 06:42 AM

I don't get you people. Most of you are bitching about a 4 disc release of the soundtrack to one of the biggest films in the last 20 years yet I bet you'd all blow your f#%king loads over a 5 disc Avatar score, which is a non-original, mediocre film at best.

Those of you who don't like the score stop trying to ruin it for others FFS. No f#$king wonder I don't frequent this board as much.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 06:53 AM

I don't get you people. Most of you are bitching about a 4 disc release of the soundtrack to one of the biggest films in the last 20 years yet I bet you'd all blow your f#%king loads over a 5 disc Avatar score, which is a non-original, mediocre film at best.

Those of you who don't like the score stop trying to ruin it for others FFS. No f#$king wonder I don't frequent this board as much.

Ummm have you seen the contents of this new release? Check it out and then say all the complaints and sarcasm is unfounded:

http://vinilo.fm/Not...inal-de-Titanic

ROTFLMAO

Sony improves on failing every time. I really thought there would be at least two or three new score tracks or so on those 2 new CDs.


Repackaging old material and adding music on 2 CDs that have a tenuous connection to the film at best smells like, feels like and sure as hell looks like it: Cashing in on an old phenomenon.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 07:07 AM


I don't get you people. Most of you are bitching about a 4 disc release of the soundtrack to one of the biggest films in the last 20 years yet I bet you'd all blow your f#%king loads over a 5 disc Avatar score, which is a non-original, mediocre film at best.

Those of you who don't like the score stop trying to ruin it for others FFS. No f#$king wonder I don't frequent this board as much.


Ummm have you seen the contents of this new release? Check it out and then say all the complaints and sarcasm is unfounded:

Repackaging old material and adding music on 2 CDs that have a tenuous connection to the film at best smells like, feels like and sure as hell looks like it: Cashing in on an old phenomenon.


At the moment the CD is unreleased,and probably not being released until March/April, so everything is pure speculation until more definitive information is released and all the complaints and sarcasm ARE unfoundered.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 07:12 AM

I don't get you people. Most of you are bitching about a 4 disc release of the soundtrack to one of the biggest films in the last 20 years yet I bet you'd all blow your f#%king loads over a 5 disc Avatar score, which is a non-original, mediocre film at best.

Those of you who don't like the score stop trying to ruin it for others FFS. No f#$king wonder I don't frequent this board as much.


The thing is this release is practically bullshit. Discs 1 and 2 being re-issues that are still available while Discs 3 and 4 contain crap that is a waste of space, especially the 4th CD as pointed out by others.

If AVATAR got an official complete release I would buy it. I like that score better than Titanic. I didn't really like the film that much and the music does NOTHING for me.

All though the "5-CD" of the boot for Avatar contained a lot of repeated material, it really is only 3-CDs. The point is I'd buy a full expanded or complete version of that score before Titanic.

Edit: Dean look in this thread on FSM.

http://filmscoremont...mID=1&archive=0

There's info on what the discs contain. As we've said it's bullshit.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:50 AM

Each track title that starts with "A" seem to get more and more cheesy. A Promise Kept, A Life So Changed, An Ocean of Memories, A Shore Never Reached...

That last one foreshadows 2001 and 2003 Oscars for Horner.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:04 AM

Just saw the "contents" at FSM. My thoughts:

http://www.youtube.c...Y4wuTHw#t=1m01s
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:55 AM

To quote Jack Nicholson, "I warned 'em."

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:01 PM

There is some pretty neat stuff missing like the introductory cues. The main titles and dive scene are begging to be on this.


It's been along while since I've seen the film (and somewhat so for listening to the cd), but doesn't "An Ocean of Memories" contain at least part of themusic from the diving scenes?
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:08 PM

Some of it, maybe tracked, I think. The stuff I want consists of this weird and creepy atmospheric music, with Rose's theme for a short montage of scattered items on the ocean floor. It's pretty neat.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:40 AM

I just learned, while searching for some information, that the recording sessions to "Titanic, including alternates and un-used score, goes to 9CD's.

Good fluffy lord that's a lot of penny whistles.


I'll still buy it*.




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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:45 AM

We of course all know recording sessions with bazillion recorded takes and alternate sections would not make a decent selling soundtrack product. It is a different thing to release a well rounded presentation of a compelete score and slapping recording sessions on the market as they are, which is more like a box of raw materials someone, in this case the fans, would have to/ would love to assemble as their own finished product. I doubt a complete release of the Titanic score would be 9 CDs even if all the relevant alternate material would be included.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 11:38 AM

I doubt a complete release of the Titanic score would be 9 CDs even if all the relevant alternate material would be included.


Are you freaking kidding me? There are at least 10 different versions of Horner singing My Heart Will Go On, all with great variations of the danger motif as a counterpoint (that's about 100 minutes). Then there also are Da Tiesto Edit Club Mix of An Ocean Of Memories (30 minutes long), DJ Iceberg's take on A Shore Never Reached (80 minutes long), and, as you all know, the material Williams recorded before Cameron decided to change composer (approximately 260 minutes). That's quite a lot.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:48 PM

Apparently Sony is holding it up. And now we know why: so they could release this 4CD "masterpiece" that we've all been "longing" for since NEVER.
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