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#41 Romão

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:38 PM

I love this one:


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:27 PM

Good cue. An excellent example of active music under dialogue.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

Heh, Best action music writer in history. His action music in TOD and Return of the Jedi is the best ever in the history of music.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:39 PM

Heh, Best action music writer in history. His action music in TOD and Return of the Jedi is the best ever in the history of music.


Rightly so.

I adore "Broken Bridge/British Relief" and Battle Of Endor I !
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:05 PM

His action music in TOD and Return of the Jedi is the best ever in the history of music.


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:10 PM

Raiders beats both of those. His best is the final section of ET, although the opening cues (lost in the forest) are also incredible.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:13 PM

The Lost World:

Visitor in San Diego, best Williams action track in the 1990's on, IMO

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:17 PM

Raiders beats both of those.


No, but it's close.

His best is the final section of ET


Definitely one of the best cues in film music history
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:17 PM

TOD, Jedi and Hook make up a trilogy of 30-45 minute wall-to-wall climactic action and dramatic scoring. Just so much phenomenal music going on there.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:18 PM

The Lost World:

Visitor in San Diego, best Williams action track in the 1990's on, IMO


Probably!

TOD, Jedi and Hook make up a trilogy of 30-45 minute wall-to-wall climactic action and dramatic scoring. Just so much phenomenal music going on there.


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

The Ultimate War reminds me of Short Round Helps (the Indy Takes Charge bit).

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:35 PM

Oh man, Rescuing Sarah is a beast of a song.


With the unreleased portion making up some of, what is in my opinion, Williams' best and most frightening action material. Don't know why he'd cut it out...

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:37 PM

Does anyone have a good quality of the full version of Rescuing Sarah?
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:45 PM

Well...

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:45 PM

I don't believe that the missing parts of Rescuing Sarah are available in good quality.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:49 PM

Its availlable in decent quality, but it sounds a bit distant (Blu-ray rip)

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 04:58 PM

Don't know if anyone mentioned it but the whole Battle of Hoth 15 minute track is probably one if not the finest action cues ever written. Simply breathtaking!!

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 05:08 PM

I'm also a fan of Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra. It's more "chase" music, but still lots of fun!

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 05:49 PM

The Lost World. Oh, The Lost World. Hell, it puts you on the side of the dinosaurs... When tracks like the visitor in San Diego open, it sounds like "hello... the T. rex is HEEEEEEREEE HAHAHA", I just love it.

And I'll defend the action music in War of the Worlds as well. That score gives me the creeps.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 09:13 PM

Williams' action cues doesn't have that oomph that gets your adrenaline pumping wildly.


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Raiders beats both of those.


No, but it's close.

His best is the final section of ET


Definitely one of the best cues in film music history

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The Lost World. Oh, The Lost World. Hell, it puts you on the side of the dinosaurs... When tracks like the visitor in San Diego open, it sounds like "hello... the T. rex is HEEEEEEREEE HAHAHA", I just love it.

And I'll defend the action music in War of the Worlds as well. That score gives me the creeps.




so awsome...
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:34 PM

No one mentions the action music from Superman.
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:35 PM

Because its so good, that its obvious, and does not need to be said.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:48 PM


And I'll defend the action music in War of the Worlds as well. That score gives me the creeps.




so awsome...


wow! I didn't know this video, and indeed it's awesome! It reminded me how much I like this score. It masterfully blends elegiac cues with raw and brutal action (The Ferry Scene!)...

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:56 PM

Because its so good, that its obvious, and does not need to be said.


It's better than good ;)
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 11:01 PM

Just enjoyed the War of the Worlds vid too, definitely a score I was underwhelmed by at the time but should go back to and listen again!!

I'm pretty sure JW INVENTED Action music...

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 11:17 PM

First time seeing that WOTW featurette. way cool! I liked the WOTW score when I first heard it, I liked the raw power and the dual timpani playing.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 11:25 PM

When Superman takes off in Chasing Rockets...
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:07 AM

Anymore? I need a bigger Williams library. :P
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:38 AM

Two that come to mind that haven't been mentioned already:





And I've always loved the first minute or so of "Man of the House" from Home Alone, especially that crazy trumpet blast of "Star of Bethlehem" at 30 seconds:



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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:24 AM

Has anyone mentioned "The Land Race"? I fell in love with this track, of all places, when it was temped on the trailer for Treasure Planet.





And I think someone already threw out "The Flying Car" from Chamber of Secrets, but let me add "The Spiders," which I'm convinced he wrote as a series of descending four-note phrases to represent all those eight-legged creatures. (The track is certainly more impressive than the spider effects in the movie...)





And in my book, the action highlight of the prequel trilogy



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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:27 AM

"Jango's Escape" is probably the finest piece of music in modern times.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:30 AM

Never understood the hate for "Jango's Escape." There's a lot to love, from the vicious assault of trombones in the beginning to the wonderfully inventive medieval sounding woodwind odd-meter idea at the end.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:33 AM

Never understood the hate for "Jango's Escape." There's a lot to love, from the vicious assault of trombones in the beginning to the wonderfully inventive medieval sounding woodwind odd-meter idea at the end.


It gets off to a great start, like so much of Williams' early 2000s action music -- I'll give you that much.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:52 AM

I like that cue. If he'd written that particular cue in 2011 instead of 2002, it would have struck me as a rather tired style, because it's certainly not very unique among Williams' 2000's action music. But I enjoy it.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:34 AM

It's emotionally barren and technically uninteresting

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:37 AM

I'm going to go for three rarely mentioned cues from The Phantom Menace: Anakin Defeats Sebulba (not the ost version, but the awesome 'xylophone vs. snares' arrangement), Panaka and the Queen's Protectors (0:55 1:10 IS John Williams Action Music) and The Sith Spacecraft and The Droid Battle (one of those great incidental pieces he used to write with such high frequency, it's a typically surging and soaring cue full of the sorts of flourishes and boom-tish you expect from the maestro).

Nowadays it's easy to forget how great the Phantom Menace score was, and still is. It ain't perfect, but when it's good, it's really fucking good.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:43 PM

It ain't perfect, but when it's good, it's really fucking good.


That's about my feelings on it. There's SOOOOO much filler in that score (dialogue scenes...), but the parts that kick ass kick a LOT of ass
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:56 PM

I like the filler....... ;(

I like the bit when Qui-gon and Darth Maul are fighting on tattooine.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 04:11 PM

Also, "Dueling The Basilisk" from COS. That choir+french horn moment gives me chills!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:33 PM

Phantom has wonderful action cues. Also, Panaka and the Queen's Protectors is one of JW's best album arrangements.
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