2012 Oscar Discussion Thread (Tintin and War Horse nominated for Best Original Score!)
#41
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:55 PM
#42
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:59 PM
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#43
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:08 PM
That's one of the best scores line up in years. I enjoyed all the 5 nominees
Agreed! I expected The Artist, Hugo, and War Horse, of course (lol), but Tintin and particularly Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy were big and very pleasant surprises! My extreme love for JW goes without saying, but the opening titles for TTSS captivated me from the get-go, and I just remember immediately thinking the score would be among my favorites for the year.
Again Harry Potter got snubbed at the Oscars for even nominations. I figured this would happen, even though many thought the Academy would give them more as a sort of "encompassing the entire series" theory. But honestly, I don't care about any other Oscar that series could win EXCEPT for Art Direction. Stuart Craig needs to win this Oscar for the Harry Potter series already. I believe he has been nominated to it every time a Potter film has come out, if I am not mistaken, but never won. He needs to win it this time, not just because his art direction was excellent in the final film, but because this is a case where he should be recognized for his incredible work on the entire series. Anyone else agree? Anyone think it might happen? If it was Potter's only Oscar ever, it'd be great and well-deserved.
Stuart Craig and Stephenie McMillan have been nominated four times for Harry Potter: Sorcerer's Stone, Goblet of Fire, and both Deathly Hallows films. I would love to see them receive the award and agree with your sentiments about their work being a wonderful constant throughout the series, but I think it'll go to one of the Best Picture contenders, in the end. That's how these things tend to go. Harry Potter's best chance is probably in Make-Up, but even that isn't a given.
#44
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:15 PM
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#45
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:15 PM
#46
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:23 PM
sorry, but I am 99% sure that "The Artist" wins the oscar. :-(
Hey has Williams more nominations then Disney?
Andreas
#47
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:30 PM
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#48
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:33 PM
No. Disney has 59 nominations. We just need about 15 more Spielberg films in Williams' lifetime!
He also needs 5 more Oscars to be the most-WINNING composer of all time (and second most individual after Disney, who will probably never be surpassed with his 22).
#49
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:39 PM
Has it not been the case in the past where the two nominations cancell each other out? Like getting two noms is almost as good as a win anyway, in the Academy's eyes.
The same happened with Munich and Memoirs of a Geisha didn't it?
And Star Wars/CE3K and Schindler's List/JP.
#50
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:45 PM
Jurassic Park was not nominated for an oscar.And Star Wars/CE3K and Schindler's List/JP.
But yes, I guess his chances are rather slim.
I am reallly happy that he has two nominees, because both scores are really brilliant and would really deserve it. And the best thing: He has now more than Alfred Newman. Gratulations!
- John Williams
#51
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:50 PM
Jurassic Park was not nominated for an oscar.
And Star Wars/CE3K and Schindler's List/JP.But yes, I guess his chances are rather slim.
It should have been, though.
#52
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:51 PM
#54
Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:56 PM
#55
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:00 PM
And Star Wars/CE3K...
And JW won for Star Wars! So it is possible!
#56
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:08 PM
They give Oscars to people who don't bother to show up. It doesn't matter what a person thinks, if they make great films, they make great films and deserve to be recognized.it's really a shame that the Oscars chose to nominate Woody Allen's film. The man has no respect for the Oscars so in turn they should ignore his existance sort of like audiences at large do.
The Tree Of Life at Best Director, Best Picture, and Best Cinematography. That's what I'm talking about! Also nice to see Midnight In Paris gather so many noms.
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#57
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:11 PM
#58
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:11 PM
Really surprised at the lack of Dragon Tatoo. At least it means that 5 proper scores are being recognised.
I still don't like The Artist, musically. Waaayyy too golden age for me. And I don't like the fact that probably anyone could've scored it, and because of the mega-popularity of the film, would've wooed voters.
But Hugo was good music and really effective in the film. Tinker Tailor is a curious choice, and I haven't seen or heard it, so maybe it's actually damn good.
Indeed, I thought Coeur Volant from Hugo really deserved a nomination. It's a fantastic song and my favorite film song of the year!
Was that an original song? I thought I read it was adapted from a french melody. Either way, I agree - it's a great, memorable song.
#59
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:13 PM
Getting to first position for the number of nominations for a composer is a nice 80th birthday present!
I'm overjoyed that that sorry excuse for a score wasn't nominated (we all know which one)! Given Oscar politics, I really thought it would have been nominated.
#60
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:21 PM
If you put John Williams in a dryer, you get Jerry Goldsmith! You get the downside version!
#61
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:22 PM
Shame Giacchino's Super 8 did not make the list... but hey one more less 'weid-name-composer' then so williams has more options...

I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'
#63
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:31 PM
#64
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:33 PM
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#65
Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:47 PM
If you put John Williams in a dryer, you get Jerry Goldsmith! You get the downside version!
#66
Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:50 PM
#67
Posted 24 January 2012 - 10:22 PM
Jurassic Park was not nominated for an oscar.red Newman. Gratulations!
Damn... somehow I thought it was.
Anyway, War Horse definitely deserves the nomination. It's not my favourite Williams score, but it's sublimely crafted music on a level hardly anyone writes at anymore for a film. And while Tintin is highly unoriginal (on the level of some of the more refreshing Horner scores, though Williams' reuse of older ideas is much more organic and unobstrusive), it also is first rate quality writing - plus a lot of fun.
#68
Posted 24 January 2012 - 10:24 PM
#69
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:07 AM
Not that I care, but this is surprisingly strong lineup. And every single score in this category is "old fashioned".
Karol
Great selections and congratulations to Williams, who deserves to be nominated for nearly every score he writes.
#70
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:11 AM
#71
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:12 AM
Wonder if Hans Zimmer would have been nominated if he hadn't withdrawn from the Oscars race.
highly unlikely, all 5 of these scores are miles ahead of him.
#72
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:17 AM
#74
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:44 AM
#76
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:50 AM
There is a remote chance Williams might get a birthday surprise. Sometimes that's how it works
#77
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:52 AM
Indeed, I thought Coeur Volant from Hugo really deserved a nomination. It's a fantastic song and my favorite film song of the year!
Was that an original song? I thought I read it was adapted from a french melody. Either way, I agree - it's a great, memorable song.
That wasn't a french melody, its the main theme and its secondary material packaged into a great song with Zaz's voice!
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#78
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:54 AM
So let's move on with that discussion: Do you think Lincoln will be Williams' 7th Oscar?
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#79
Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:56 AM
And Star Wars/CE3K...
And JW won for Star Wars! So it is possible!
The only reason Star Wars won is because of the ginormous success of the film and the huge memorability of the score. If it wasn't for the "instant classic" hype of Williams work along with the franchise, Williams probably would have lost that year too.
Star Wars was just too good to ignore. If he didn't get it, there would have been a revolt
I like what you are saying KM..!
So let's move on with that discussion: Do you think Lincoln will be Williams' 7th Oscar?
Ahh...the wonder of positive thinking, building yourself up with hope and confidence only to be crushed with despair on judgement day.
The Artist is going to win people, whether we like it or not...
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#80
Posted 25 January 2012 - 01:35 AM
i was also surprised it wasn't nominated for animated feature, but then after thinking about it, I understand it being excluded ... the film was so plot driven; there weren't any places where we focused on Tintin's character, etc. But excited about the nominations, even if he loses.
I don't know why I should be excited about this.
Williams delivered two of the Top 5 scores of 2011 (if not of the Top 3, but I see why people wouldn't agree with that), a nomination was inevitable. Hell, Williams would have been nominated had he blown his nose with a piece of stave paper and have it recorded (it's good enough for Reznor, no?).
The only thing I want to be excited about is the anticipation whether he will win or not, and that was pretty much killed with these two noms.
We don't really know if Williams won't win. So-called "sure bets" failed before.
Oh but we do know. What do you think the Oscars are about? Quality?
It was unlikely Williams would win in the first place, but now it's pretty much an abortion before the show even starts.
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