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2012 Oscar Discussion Thread (Tintin and War Horse nominated for Best Original Score!)

Started by Romão, Jan 24 2012 01:45 PM

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#201 Mr Big

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:41 AM

Williams totally cock blocked Reznor for the Oscar. I can imagine Williams being like "No Oscar for you!" John Williams is such a bro.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:42 AM

Do we know whose getting the non-competitive Oscar yet?
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:44 AM

The special achievement award?

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:45 AM

Ambient scores are by definition completely original and not formulaic!

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:37 AM

The special achievement award?

Yup, that's the one.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:58 AM

It'll go to Trent Reznor for his acheivment in ambient sound design.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:00 AM

:thumbup:
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:44 AM

James Earl Jones and Dick Smith received Honorary Oscars, while Oprah Winfrey received the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award: http://www.oscars.or...2011/index.html

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:42 AM

Ambient scores are by definition completely original and not formulaic!

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:16 PM


No. Disney has 59 nominations. We just need about 15 more Spielberg films in Williams' lifetime!


He also needs 5 more Oscars to be the most-WINNING composer of all time (and second most individual after Disney, who will probably never be surpassed with his 22).

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:33 PM

I love Williams and I think his nominations were deserved, but I definitely think Disney deserved every one of his nominations and more:

http://en.wikipedia...._Academy_Awards

Almost all of the nominations were for cartoon shorts. Walt was deeply involved in the production of everything at his studio, especially the shorts. The only feature-length film that he was nominated for was Mary Poppins, his crowning achievement, and well deserved.

He deserved nominations for nearly every one of his feature-length animated films (and I don't mean just in the animated category, which didn't exist until recently), but he didn't get a single one (unless you count the honorary award for Snow White, and the one for Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day, which was later released as part of a feature-length film). He also produced several classic live-action films, like Swiss Family Robinson and The Parent Trap.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:09 PM

I don't think The Artist will win the music Oscar.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:10 PM

I don't think The Artist will win the music Oscar.

Pray tell why not?

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:32 PM

It's not divisive enough.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 07:06 AM

I'm glad they're still using "Fanfare For Oscar" that Jerry Goldsmith composed for the Academy. I might've thought they discarded it.



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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:00 PM

It's ironic that both Israel and Iran are up for Best Foreign Language film!

Coincidence?

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:08 PM

Appeasement by the Obama Administration, trying to play both sides until a clear winner emerges!

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:06 PM

Article with brief JW quotations about Tintin and War Horse

http://www.variety.c...e/VR1118049792/
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:00 PM

I don't think The Artist will win the music Oscar.


It's just won the Bafta.

Meh.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:25 PM

The "War Horse" score isn't remarkable, but it is incredibly catchy (according to Coco):

http://teamcoco.com/...war-horse-score

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:02 PM

Nice another "legal clip" unavailable outside the US

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:05 PM

I'm outside US and it's available here...

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:07 PM

Works fine in Finland also...

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:27 PM

Well it doesn't work fine here, and I'm up in Canada...

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:44 PM

Oh it doesn't work for Kanadians. Well you definitely won't miss much...

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:51 PM

Works fine in Finland also...



Well why wouldn't it be? You've got Team Coco fever in there!!!

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:14 AM

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:54 PM

In January, I wrote about my disappointment that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences had chosen to nominate neither Cliff Martinez nor Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross for Best Original Score. (Martinez scored “Drive,” Reznor and Ross “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.”) On Twitter, my colleague Alex Ross echoed my “impatience” and NPR’s Ann Powers tweeted that Martinez was “robbed!” Then the writer Scott Plagenhoef and the composer James Lavino pointed out that “Drive” hadn’t been passed over—it had been declared ineligible.


Full article at The New Yorker
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:01 AM

The Academy has not been consistent for years when it comes to deciding what scores are eligible.

Doesn't The Artist use a Hermann piece at a very critical moment in the film?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:22 AM

The Oscars haven't been worth watching since RotK was given its due. And even then it was a begrudgingly "about frickin' time" thing.

These awarded ceremonies are all celeb backslapping anal fingering fests designed to make chumps like Brad Pitt feel as handsome as he is a failure.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:31 AM

Doesn't The Artist use a Hermann piece at a very critical moment in the film?


This will likely come up Sunday night when the Award for Best Original Score is handed out. If the odds-makers are right, the award will go to one of the most blatant violators of the Academy’s own rules. Alex Ross will explain.


And a couple of gems from the Alex Ross article:

The film-music nominees this year are a mostly unimpressive lot. John Williams’s two efforts, for all their characteristic craftsmanship, lack distinction in comparison with Martinez’s work on “Drive,” not to mention Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross’s seething score for “The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo,” which also failed to get a nomination.



If, as seems likely, “The Artist” wins the Original Score Oscar, I won’t be entirely unhappy. Herrmann received only one Oscar, for “The Devil and Daniel Webster,” in 1941; he wasn’t even nominated for “Vertigo,” which I and many others consider the greatest score ever written for Hollywood. The master deserves one last vicarious prize.


Full article at the New Yorker
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:51 AM

he wasn’t even nominated for “Vertigo,” which I and many others consider the greatest score ever written for Hollywood. The master deserves one last vicarious prize.


BullShit. Vertico surely should have won back then but this mediocre "thing" should never win anything.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:13 AM

There is so much unintentional irony in those articles I don't even know where to begin...

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:22 AM

And a couple of gems from the Alex Ross article:

The film-music nominees this year are a mostly unimpressive lot. John Williams’s two efforts, for all their characteristic craftsmanship, lack distinction in comparison with Martinez’s work on “Drive,” not to mention Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross’s seething score for “The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo,” which also failed to get a nomination.


Full article at the New Yorker


I heard drive and one thing the score hasn't is 'distinction'.
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:44 AM

This is why I try not to follow these things. It just gets too irritating, for all sorts of reasons.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:06 AM

I lost interest in the Oscars after Two Towers was deemed ineligeble because is used themes from Fellowship...

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:04 PM

I just don't get the hype about Drive. The score was barely noticeable in the film to me, and by far the most effective cue in the film (Tick of the Clock) isn't by Martinez.

I'll be staying up until maybe 2am this year - to see if I can see the music award. If not, I'll read about Bource's win in the morning. Or, if by some miracle War Horse wins, I'll fire up Sky and watch the moment :)

Other than that, I just don't care any more.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:23 PM

There was a score on Drive? All I noticed were the songs...
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:18 PM

What time will the "Best Original Score" category be presented? I don't want to watch for 2 hours if it's near the end.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:28 PM

Hmmm:

http://www.ropeofsil...ees-presenters/

Score is scheduled for 7.04pm.

Which is 3am here in the UK. Doh.
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