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2012 Oscar Discussion Thread (Tintin and War Horse nominated for Best Original Score!)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:39 AM

Its sad that Williams didn't win, but we all knew that would happen :D

Oh well...Lincoln is probably Williams last chance at his 6th Oscar...and he'll prob lose to the Hobbit...

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:43 AM

I could feel John Williams' condescension when Meryl Streep got a standing ovation for 17 nominations. "That's cute."
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:55 AM

I'm in the library studying for midterms and not currently watching but according to Twitter somebody on the Oscars said that John Williams just writes the same music over and over? Is this true?

Edit: Obviously not asking if Williams writing the same music over and over is true but did somebody actually say that

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:56 AM

I could feel John Williams' condescension when Meryl Streep got a standing ovation for 17 nominations. "That's cute."

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Well JW losing this Oscar to the Artist was entirely to be expect. Not only did he again have 2 scores nominated and dividing votes but there was a person outside of Hollywood with an exotic name nominated as well. Oh well. Better luck next time.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:05 AM

As much as I wanted Williams to win, I can't be mad that this composer took away the prize. It was real music, at least.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:17 AM

As much as I wanted Williams to win, I can't be mad that this composer took away the prize. It was real music, at least.

Well that's a small consolation at least.

On a sidenote it is nice to see Christopher Plummer finally getting his long deserved Oscar! :)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:38 AM

This year's Oscars were a joke. Viola Davis was absolutely robbed, but at she lost to a worthy actress.

And don't get me started on the films that were snubbed from a Best Picture nomination... like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2. That would've been preferable to seeing something like Extremely Annoying & Incredibly Saccharine up for Best Picture.

And it was cool seeing Zimmer rock out on electric guitar at the Oscars... say what you want about him, but he's a good sport.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:45 AM

Very predictable. A small, irrational part of me was still hoping that Tintin would win... but oh well, at least The Artist is a fine orchestral score.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:55 AM

I cant believe the artist guy beat scorsese for directing.... blah. And still miffed Fincher wasnt even nominated for directing.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:59 AM

War Horse was entirely snubbed as well.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:09 AM

War Horse wasnt snubbed if you ask me, it wasnt that great of a film.

Only the score and cinematography were really exceptional. I do think the score deserved to win but after finally seeing Hugo last night I cannot argue with it winning for cinematography. War Horse's cinematography was excellent but Hugo's was really, really, REALLY excellent. The entire film was a joy to watch from the first frame to the last.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:19 AM

Best Score is the only category that I vehemently believe War Horse should've won in. As great as it was, The Artist was the better film (and had the better acting and directing). I don't know enough about the other categories (editing, sound effects, etc.), but it would've been nice to see War Horse pick up the cinematography award.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:21 AM

War Horse wasnt snubbed if you ask me, it wasnt that great of a film.

Only the score and cinematography were really exceptional. I do think the score deserved to win but after finally seeing Hugo last night I cannot argue with it winning for cinematography. War Horse's cinematography was excellent but Hugo's was really, really, REALLY excellent. The entire film was a joy to watch from the first frame to the last.

Well I can't disagree. Those two were the categories were really the ones that might have won the statuette. I can't say anything about Hugo since I have not seen it but I have heard good things about it and obviously it deserved its wins.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:27 AM

And The Artist won best picture too. Well I suppose I should see it now. I cant imagine I'll end up thinking its a better film than Hugo, Dragon Tattoo, or Midnight in Paris
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:16 AM

I didn't waste my time with this forgone conclusion. I think the reason JW doesn't win anymore is purely due to the fact voters are well aware he's already won five times before. They're just giving the new guys the pat on the back, that's all.

Don't take it so personally.

Besides, what I have heard of The Artist's score, it seemed every bit the contender.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:43 AM

War Horse wasnt snubbed if you ask me, it wasnt that great of a film.

Only the score and cinematography were really exceptional. I do think the score deserved to win but after finally seeing Hugo last night I cannot argue with it winning for cinematography. War Horse's cinematography was excellent but Hugo's was really, really, REALLY excellent. The entire film was a joy to watch from the first frame to the last.

You obviously haven't seen The Tree Of Life.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:52 AM

damn, oh well :(
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:53 AM

I didn't waste my time with this forgone conclusion. I think the reason JW doesn't win anymore is purely due to the fact voters are well aware he's already won five times before. They're just giving the new guys the pat on the back, that's all.

Don't take it so personally.

Besides, what I have heard of The Artist's score, it seemed every bit the contender.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:57 AM

I guess that actually was A.R. Rahman that I saw. Each of the performers was asked by Zimmer to compose their own piece inspired by the Oscars. It's available only through iTunes, and apparently all proceeds go to some program relating to film music.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:37 AM

Oh well, that's what we all expected anyway, isn't?

What can I say?

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:39 AM

What's with all the Frenchy love this year at the Oscars?

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:55 AM

So WH didn't win a single Oscar??

Just as I predicted: a repeat of the Empire of the Sun fiasco!

But who the hell cares! :P

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:03 AM

Whatever people think of The Artist (film and score), I'm glad Dujardin got the Oscar for Best Actor. Well deserved. At least, they got that right.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:07 AM

Whatever people think of The Artist (film and score), I'm glad Dujardin got the Oscar for Best Actor. Well deserved. At least, they got that right.


Even a stopped clock is right tw. . . ah never mind! :P

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

Do we have the actual vote count to see if War Horse + Tintin had more combined votes than the Artist? As I recall this was the case in 2005.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:55 PM

Do we have the actual vote count to see if War Horse + Tintin had more combined votes than the Artist? As I recall this was the case in 2005.


2005?

Williams was nominated only for PoA, wasn't he?

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:57 PM

Azkaban was 2004 Josh. Munich and MotG were 2005.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:01 PM

Yes, right!

I was thinking of the year the Academy Award is held... which is of course always in February of the following year!

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:26 PM

War Horse deserved a nomination for Best Director. Not a win, but a nomination.

In fact, Spielberg should have a nomination for Best Director in everything he does. The films might be good or bad, but the direction is always brilliant and creative.

Oh, and I laughed big time when Billy Crystal improvised what Scorcese was thinking; and even Marty participated a bit! :lol:
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:36 PM

Congrats on Bernard Herrmann for his second oscar!
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:38 PM

Congrats on Bernard Herrmann for his second oscar!


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:40 PM

Do we have the actual vote count to see if War Horse + Tintin had more combined votes than the Artist? As I recall this was the case in 2005.

Wait, the votes were actually released? I always thought that was just speculation?
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:41 PM

I've never heard of the actual vote counts being released before
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:44 PM

And The Artist won best picture too. Well I suppose I should see it now. I cant imagine I'll end up thinking its a better film than Hugo, Dragon Tattoo, or Midnight in Paris


You probably won't if you go into it like that. It's a lovely movie.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:56 PM

I'll go in to it with an open mind.

None of the clips I saw during the ceremony last night made me excited for it, and I've never seen a trailer or anything

Regardless, I won't go in expecting to hate it
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:05 PM

In fact, Spielberg should have a nomination for Best Director in everything he does. The films might be good or bad, but the direction is always brilliant and creative.

That makes no sense. That's like saying your company's employees are terrible, but the managers are all doing a fantastic job. It's not their fault.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:13 PM


War Horse wasnt snubbed if you ask me, it wasnt that great of a film.

Only the score and cinematography were really exceptional. I do think the score deserved to win but after finally seeing Hugo last night I cannot argue with it winning for cinematography. War Horse's cinematography was excellent but Hugo's was really, really, REALLY excellent. The entire film was a joy to watch from the first frame to the last.

You obviously haven't seen The Tree Of Life.


I haven't seen The Tree Of Life yet, but I definitely want to. I'm only speaking of the films I *have* seen, and out of the two I mentioned, I preferred Hugo's cinematography to War Horse's. But both were very good.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:34 PM

So WH didn't win a single Oscar??

Just as I predicted: a repeat of the Empire of the Sun fiasco!

But who the hell cares! :P


Only that EMPIRE OF THE SUN is a sublime masterpiece compared to WAR HORSE.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:49 PM

That makes no sense. That's like saying your company's employees are terrible, but the managers are all doing a fantastic job. It's not their fault.


It makes perfect sense. A movie might be bad but it could still very well directed... Or a bad animated movie that still has great animation. It's the same.

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