Which score do you prefer?
I prefer Star Trek V, First Contact has too much suspenseful (and most times forgettable) underscore for me.
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Star Trek V Vs. First Contact
Started by Faleel, Feb 06 2012 07:10 PM
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:10 PM
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:18 PM
I like FC but Trek V is better. Its a real classic.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:24 PM
I like FC but Trek V is better. Its a real classic.
Agreed.
First Contact is a bit better listening experience for the album compared to Star Trek V. However, in complete form Star Trek V gets my vote.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:26 PM
I could not vote.
I could only do the first question, since with the second, I consider both scores to be on equal playing fields (though different efforts).
The poll would not let me cast a vote unless I did both questions.
For the OST one, I was going to go with First Contact, simply because The Final Frontier has that aweful Moon song and reminds me of that terrible, terrible, horrible, unforgivable scene in the film. While "Magic Carpet Ride" is an excellent song, and the other okay.
I could only do the first question, since with the second, I consider both scores to be on equal playing fields (though different efforts).
The poll would not let me cast a vote unless I did both questions.
For the OST one, I was going to go with First Contact, simply because The Final Frontier has that aweful Moon song and reminds me of that terrible, terrible, horrible, unforgivable scene in the film. While "Magic Carpet Ride" is an excellent song, and the other okay.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:30 PM
I could not vote.
The poll would not let me cast a vote unless I did both questions.
I added an option for you.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:36 PM
I enjoy Star Trek V slightly better. But this is very close for me.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:40 PM
Yeah, First Contact's OST is a better listen than the complete score (with a few exceptions, Joel Goldsmith's climax cue primarily).
Final Frontier is the better score though, and the LLL expansion makes it shine.
Final Frontier is the better score though, and the LLL expansion makes it shine.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:46 PM
Thank you, voted!
The most perfect Trek OST would probably have to be (minus the special editions, I'm talking the originals) TWoK (even though it sounds like a tin can at times).
The most perfect Trek OST would probably have to be (minus the special editions, I'm talking the originals) TWoK (even though it sounds like a tin can at times).
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 08:15 PM
I go back and forth between these two all the time on which I like better. They're so close, it's totally mood dependent. No vote from me.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 08:18 PM
For the OST one, I was going to go with First Contact, simply because The Final Frontier has that aweful Moon song and reminds me of that terrible, terrible, horrible, unforgivable scene in the film. While "Magic Carpet Ride" is an excellent song, and the other okay.
The Hiroshima song is far more tolerable on album than in the film because it's at least a real song by a real band that I've seen in the discount bin. Nichelle Nichols' singing.....not so much. As far as 80s pop songs go, I've heard far, far worse than TMAWTH.
I love the action-mode Enterprise theme in the FC complete score when the Phoenix flies past the Enterprise. That and The Dish make the album for me.
I go back and forth between these two all the time on which I like better. They're so close, it's totally mood dependent. No vote from me.
They really are great companion scores to each other. Adapting the four-note friendship theme to be Picard's theme helped, I guess.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:11 PM
Not to mention making the Klingon theme heroic for Worf.
I prefer V. FC needs a happy medium between OST and complete. 'A Quest For Vengeance' is amazing though.
I prefer V. FC needs a happy medium between OST and complete. 'A Quest For Vengeance' is amazing though.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:13 PM
They really are great companion scores to each other. Adapting the four-note friendship theme to be Picard's theme helped, I guess.
It's the Quest theme Wojo, not a friendship theme.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:15 PM
They really are great companion scores to each other. Adapting the four-note friendship theme to be Picard's theme helped, I guess.
It's the Quest theme Wojo, not a friendship theme.
It is in nemesis pretty much.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:18 PM
In First Contact it has no specific character or situation associated with it. Since Goldsmith was under time pressure I assume he just lifted this fairly non specific theme from trek 5 as a time saver.
Officially it's not in Insurrection, though one might argue that the action motif of that film (the US Marshalls theme) is an adaptation of it.
Officially it's not in Insurrection, though one might argue that the action motif of that film (the US Marshalls theme) is an adaptation of it.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:31 PM
I really like First Contact, but Star Trek V really wins this one for me, on both regards.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:00 PM
The liners on V did wonders for helping me sort those themes out.
They really are great companion scores to each other. Adapting the four-note friendship theme to be Picard's theme helped, I guess.
It's the Quest theme Wojo, not a friendship theme.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:28 PM
I have yet to read those liners. I couldn't even tell you where the jewel case and discs are more specifically than "my bedroom back home."
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:30 AM
It's been too long since listened to First Contact in OST form. But I'd probably have to say The Final Frontier on both counts.
And those liner notes are great. I hadn't previously realized how much the quest theme and Sybok's theme were woven into the score (even on just the OST selections).
And those liner notes are great. I hadn't previously realized how much the quest theme and Sybok's theme were woven into the score (even on just the OST selections).
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:04 PM
"Star TreK: V", versus "Star Trek"???!!!
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:34 PM
And those liner notes are great. I hadn't previously realized how much the quest theme and Sybok's theme were woven into the score (even on just the OST selections).
The OST heavily favours music from the latter half of the film, meaning the Quest theme is featured a lot. i think I'm right in saying that Sybok's theme can only be heard in Open The Gates and a small cameo in An Angry God.
I love the way that in the complete score The Quest Theme takes over from Sybok's theme.
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