Behold.
http://www.filmscore...es/ben_hur.html
And isn't the cover art just magnificent?
FSM Releases 5CD Complete Ben Hur (over 6 hours of music)
Started by Joe Brausam, Feb 16 2012 03:52 AM
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:07 AM
Oh my. It's a MUST Have!
And No LP re-record! Only the original record filled 5CD! Wow! I just can't wait!
And No LP re-record! Only the original record filled 5CD! Wow! I just can't wait!
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:14 AM
Each of discs 3, 4, and 5 include one of the 3 LPs, and the alternates from the original recordings are also spread across those 3 discs.
The LPs are very worth while, much of the music was rewritten for them.
The LPs are very worth while, much of the music was rewritten for them.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:19 AM
Looks like a great set, but I'll have to wait a bit until I can pick it up.
How many more FSM release are there after this?
How many more FSM release are there after this?
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:43 AM
Right, I overlook it. So it contain the LP. Even better.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 01:38 PM
Looks like a great set, but I'll have to wait a bit until I can pick it up.
How many more FSM release are there after this?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 03:12 PM
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 03:18 PM
EDIT. Doh' silly me! The link to the liner notes was posted just above.
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"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:19 PM
Those notes were posted 7 posts above yours
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:06 PM
http://www.filmscore...ID/484/Ben-Hur/
The artwork for this release is outstanding!
This is really quite amazing. We have this, Tadlow's Quo Vadis being recorded this spring...
Hook possibly coming?
Beyond that all I want is The Ten Commandments, then my holy trails are done!
The artwork for this release is outstanding!
This is really quite amazing. We have this, Tadlow's Quo Vadis being recorded this spring...
Hook possibly coming?
Beyond that all I want is The Ten Commandments, then my holy trails are done!
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:53 PM
I think I'm going to get this one. I want these LP's. And the sound quality of the score might be even better.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:59 PM
The samples sound very clear and vibrant.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:17 PM
OK, you convinced me. Ordered! (Didn't take long, did it?)
Ben-Hur (Rhino)
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:54 PM
At 2,000 copies this will be gone quick, I think. Pre-ordered, and to save a little on shipping decided to toss in Corri Uomo Corri. Fuuuuuuccckkk.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:59 PM
Pass! I have owned the Rhino set for donkeys years, and never listen to it.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:59 PM
I'm genuinely surprised this is limited to only 2,000 copies.
Should have been 3,000 or 5,000 or unlimited I'd have thought.
Should have been 3,000 or 5,000 or unlimited I'd have thought.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:03 PM
Agreed Jason, I would think the same thing. The Rhine Edition of the score is great, but I a 5CD release definitely sounds like something I'll be getting. Awesome! Can't wait! Ben-Hur is one of my favourite scores of all time.
Next up, Tadlow's release of Rozsa's epic Quo Vadis.
Next up, Tadlow's release of Rozsa's epic Quo Vadis.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:07 PM
How long do we think this will last? I'd like to wait until this month's other releases are announced, but I don't want to miss it.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:12 PM
I'd estimate 500 are already gone.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:25 PM
Don't know if I want this. Completely unfamiliar. But it gets so much message board love.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:01 PM
After grossly overestimating the demand for just about every other large set, I'm sure FSM wanted to play it safe this time.I'm genuinely surprised this is limited to only 2,000 copies.
Should have been 3,000 or 5,000 or unlimited I'd have thought.
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1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:08 PM
Eh screw it. Ordered. If I don't like it, it's gone.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:14 PM
Pass! I have owned the Rhino set for donkeys years, and never listen to it.
Same here. I've had the Rhino single-disc version since the 90's, and that's enough for me. In fact, I'm interesting in selling that off and replacing it with one of those old LP program thingies (also represented within this new set, I believe). My mind explodes in the heavy 'rowing'/sea battle sequence on the album, and I've come to understand that these previous albums focus less on this grating action material and more on the spiritual stuff, which is why I like this score in the first place.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:29 PM
My mind explodes in the heavy 'rowing'/sea battle sequence on the album, and I've come to understand that these previous albums focus less on this grating action material
Is that really all that you can handle?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:37 PM
Oh what the hell, ordered. SAE just had a used Fire, Water, Paper in stock for $9 anyway which I didn't want to miss.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:41 PM
My mind explodes in the heavy 'rowing'/sea battle sequence on the album, and I've come to understand that these previous albums focus less on this grating action material
Is that really all that you can handle?
Thor is gravely ill, after a life of debauchery...
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 11:07 PM
My mind explodes in the heavy 'rowing'/sea battle sequence on the album, and I've come to understand that these previous albums focus less on this grating action material
Is that really all that you can handle?
Yes.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 11:17 PM
Oh I didn't know that. Nevermind.I assume it's not big fun listen to fortissimo action cues with a tinitus.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:19 AM
I ordered this. I distinctly remember buying the Rhino brand new on Half.com back in 2003 -- and soon forgetting that I even ordered it because Media Mail took three weeks to deliver -- but this is a classic. I'll probably hang onto the Rhino even though I still have not read the liner notes contained in that set (or in 80% of the more recent scores I've bought eiter), but I'm looking forward to this.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:33 AM
I don't know if I should wait until I can place order from moviemusic.com
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 03:16 AM
Ordered! I already have the phenomenal Rhino set, but this just looks too good to miss.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 04:12 AM
Maybe FSM's decision on the lower numbers for the limited side was because they think it might not sell well. Probably after the Ron Jones Star Trek TNG set Lukas figured he might as well make a set like this lower numbered, just in case if it doesn't sell out.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 04:45 AM
Whatever. Order placed. I just can't wait.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 04:57 AM
Yeah, Lukas said he wants to play it safe and not end up with extra stock. He also made the good point that if it sells well, which it should, another label would likely lisence it out at some point to keep the title in print seeing as it is such a high profile score.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 10:24 AM
Damnation and blasted! Must not buy, must resist urge to buy. Must stop the voices in my head saying that I have been putting off the moment of buying Ben Hur just for the reason I knew there was going to be an über-box like this coming sometime in the future. Must resist!!!
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 10:36 AM
You won't last a day! 
(I didn't.)
Karol
(I didn't.)
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 05:25 PM
I didn't last an hour.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:00 PM
Damnation and blasted! Must not buy, must resist urge to buy. Must stop the voices in my head saying that I have been putting off the moment of buying Ben Hur just for the reason I knew there was going to be an über-box like this coming sometime in the future. Must resist!!!
Good try.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:02 PM
Can't wait for a 6 c.d. TESB score release with 4 disks of totally different alternates
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