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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:54 PM


So people, how many copies of Hook will you order tomorrow?

2. One for myself and one for a friend who is a big fan of this particular JW score and asked me to order for him as well.


Hey, I didn't ask you to do this. But that's nice nonetheless. That will save me the trouble of having to pay shipping fees. Thanks!

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:55 PM



So people, how many copies of Hook will you order tomorrow?

2. One for myself and one for a friend who is a big fan of this particular JW score and asked me to order for him as well.


Hey, I didn't ask you to do this. But that's nice nonetheless. That will save me the trouble of having to pay shipping fees. Thanks!

I make sure you are in for a surprise in 2 weeks.

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I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:23 PM

Finally got a chance to listen to Tim Burden's radio show, and it was quite a treat!

It was nice to finally hear what MV Gerhard and Matt Verboys sound like. Their discussion about their label and the current state of film scoring with Tim was quite a treat. Made me miss the old FSM podcasts a bit. One thing I should point out is that when MV hums the "Stick With Me" theme (aka Hook's March), he accidentally calls it "Low Below" instead of "Stick With Me" ("Low Below" is the "pirate theme", the one introduced by male choir in the Looney Wendy scene).

The second half of the program with John Takis was quite a pleasure as well. Having already met and had an extended dinner with John I knew what he sounded like, and I also already knew all the information he relayed about the deleted scenes, restructuring of the middle of the film, and other tidbits about the score, but it was nice to hear it all explained well and have that information made available to the general public (since most of what he said is only briefly touched upon in the final liner notes of the new set).

Was nice to hear the trailer music played at the correct speed as well :)
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:04 PM

Yeah MV and Matt were refreshingly engaged. First interview I've heard in a long time where the interviewees were as enthusiastic as the host.

Just got to remember about tomorrow (before anyone says - this score isn't particularly a grail to me, and I love Williams' OST arrangement, but I know there's some great material missing).

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:13 PM

Yeah MV and Matt were refreshingly engaged. First interview I've heard in a long time where the interviewees were as enthusiastic as the host.

Indeed. And it is refreshing to hear both parties "talking shop" with each other so effortlessly and how an interviewer/host is someone who obviously knows the music intimately and the guests are so enthusiastic and articulate about the subject of film music business.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:16 PM

A lot of these interviews feel like public relations statements; Matt and MV just sound like two awesome guys talking about their craft. It's refreshing!
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:54 PM

BTW, the "Slicing The Hand" cue John Takis talked about is available on the pre-Concorde bootleg as "Lost Boy's Lesson".

The "Believe Your Eyes" cue he talked about is on the pre-Concorde boot as "Goodnight Neverland" and on the Concorde boot stuffed into the end of "The Never-Feast"
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:54 AM

I'm glad that Mike and Matt agreed that it was a wasted opportunity on Hook's release for Blu-Ray. Basically a bare bones release just like the DVD version. I'm not sure if it was Spielberg's decision to release the movie like that or strictly Sony's.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:35 AM

The Blu-ray release was indeed in wasted opportunity. They could at least include the special features from the region 2/4 releases (theatrical trailer, 7-minute making of featurette, 3 galleries, set-top game and talent profiles).

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:57 AM

Anyone know in how many hours Hook can be ordered...? And is it possible to order through Screen Archives...? Thanks.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:58 AM

A little over 14 hours from now. :)

EDIT: Err, clarify: LLL posts their releases at 1 pm PST (there's a link to this information on the front page). Not sure when SAE will have it up, but they should within the next couple days, if not at the same time LLL does.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:59 AM

14 hours, right?
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1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:59 AM

Ok thanks. ;)
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:00 AM

:lol:
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:38 AM

Okay, has the sale started yet?

Or is it sold out already? :P

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:51 AM

Sold out! It is 14:49 pm, 27 March in Hong Kong. And it is now sold out here! In only 2 hours and 49 mins!
I am sure about that. Because I can't find it from Lalaland, SAE or moviemusic.com, not any more!

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:55 AM

Lol...
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:59 AM

Actually it was sold out exactly 2 and a half minutes after it went on sale.

A record! :lol:

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:42 AM

so that's 4 PM eastern time right?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:47 AM

Dammit!

What time would that be in London?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

1 pm in California is 11pm in Helsinki so if I remember my time zones correctly it should be 9pm in London. You can always double check here: http://www.timeandda.../converter.html

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:00 AM

1 pm in California is 11pm in Helsinki so if I remember my time zones correctly it should be 9pm in London. You can always double check here: http://www.timeandda.../converter.html


Okay thanks! (But for some reason I thought that "Hook" would go on sale on February 27 12:01 AM in California...

But that's close enough for me. One or two hours won't make a difference... I hope.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

Your confusing me

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:18 AM

:lol:

Damn you, different time zones!

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

It will be 8 pm in London.

So who's the best retailer for long-distance shipping? I don't mind paying a bit extra if it's better packaged and won't arrive cracked.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:21 AM

So who's the best retailer for long-distance shipping? I don't mind paying a bit extra if it's better packaged and won't arrive cracked.


Back to that agian! :P

Somebody (not me!) should make a poll, on whether the HOOK case came cracked or not.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:24 AM

It will be 8 pm in London.

So who's the best retailer for long-distance shipping? I don't mind paying a bit extra if it's better packaged and won't arrive cracked.

Well I remembered incorrectly the time difference then. Blast you time zones! Next time... next time...

But SAE is a very reliable retailer. I have gotten all my packages very fast and undamaged from them (knock on wood).

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:32 AM

The official announcement was just sent out via e-mail:

HOOK: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) LLLCD 1211
Music by John Williams
Limited Edition of 5000 Units


ORDER "HOOK: LIMITED EDITION" on March 27 (1pm PST) at www.lalalandrecords.com
STARTS SHIPPING MARCH 27
RETAIL PRICE $29.98

La-La Land Records and Sony Music presents the world premiere release of the first official remastered and expanded edition of renowned composer John Williams's (JAWS, STAR WARS, SCHINDLER'S LIST) original score to the 1991 Tri-Star Pictures' adventure/fantasy epic HOOK, directed by Steven Speilberg. Long considered one of the maestro's best scores in collaboration with Mr. Spielberg, this masterwork is finally presented here in a worthy 2-CD release that contains more than 140 mins of music, including bonus alternate and unused cues, greatly expanding the score's original 1991 album assembly with more than 65 minutes of music previously unreleased in any official format. Produced by Didier C. Deutsch and Mark G. Wilder, mastered by Mark G. Wilder and Maria Triana and supervised and approved by John Williams, this expanded reissue features amazing art design by Jim Titus and exclusive, in-depth liners from film music writer Daniel Schweiger. It's an amazing soundtrack experience that will have you never wanting to grow up!

This album assembly was supervised by John Williams and the completed project approved by both John Williams and Steven Spielberg.

TRACK LISTING:

DISC 1
1 Prologue 1:30
2 We Don't Wanna Grow Up + 1:50
3 Banning Back Home 2:25
4 Granny Wendy 2:57
5 The Bedroom* 1:07
6 The Nursery* 1:38
7 The Watch* :56
8 Hook-Napped 3:56
9 A Portrait Of Wendy* 1:06
10 The Arrival Of Tink/The Flight To Neverland** 6:03
11 Presenting The Hook 3:01
12 Pirates!* 2:41
13 Hook Challenges Peter* 7:50
14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys** 5:13
15 The Lost Boy Chase 3:32
16 Smee's Plan** 3:25
17 Pan Is Challenged* 1:20
18 Hook's Lesson* 3:08
19 The Banquet 3:10
20 The Never-Feast 4:41
21 Hook's Madness* 4:00
22 Follow That Shadow* 2:38
DISC 1 TIME: 68:18

DISC 2
1 Remembering Childhood 11:04
2 You Are The Pan** 4:03
3 When You're Alone+ 3:16
4 Tink Grows Up* 2:20
5 The Ultimate War: To War** 9:45
6 The Ultimate War: The Death Of Rufio* 2:36
7 The Ultimate War: Sword Fight* 5:32
8 Farewell Neverland** 11:15
9 End Credits** 6:08
Bonus Tracks:
10 Prologue (alternate)* 1:35
11 Banning Back Home (film version)* 3:14
12 Presenting The Hook (film version–extended)** 4:03
13 Hook's Blues* 2:17
14 Wendy Tells Peter The Truth (partly unused)* 2:24
15 Exit Music (unused) * 1:42
DISC 2 TIME: 72:17

TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 140:35
+Lyrics by Leslie Bricusse
* Previously unreleased
** Contains previously unreleased material



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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:34 AM

:cheer: :drool: :jump: :lsvader: :ola:



Wow, thanks John Takis!

Now I wonder what this is:

10 Prologue (alternate)* 1:35

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:35 AM

I just want to know if the Never Feast has the Food Appears Insert or not

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:38 AM

I wonder whether the sound quality here is (noticeably) superior to the OS album...

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:41 AM

10 The Arrival Of Tink/The Flight To Neverland** 6:03


I guess this is the film version.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:45 AM

10 The Arrival Of Tink/The Flight To Neverland** 6:03


I guess this is the film version.


And you'll observe that there's no alternate version of this track listed -- so completists, hang on to your copies of the old Epic Soundtrax album! :)

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:48 AM

And you'll observe that there's no alternate version of this track listed -- so completists, hang on to your copies of the old Epic Soundtrax album! :)


Anybody really stupid enough to throw away their original Epic album just because this one came out? :P

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:48 AM

10 The Arrival Of Tink/The Flight To Neverland** 6:03


I guess this is the film version.

It better be.

But this all looks good. :) All the music seems to be there. Williams obviously wanted to retain some album edits though. This is obvious from the Remembering Childhood. But they also included the missing middle section Follow That Shadow. Excellent!

I am guessing You Are the Pan contains the choir mix of the Face of Pan music and thus is marked contains previously unreleased music.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:50 AM

The Never-Feast appears to be the old album version.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:56 AM

Craps , so we still have to use that Concorde boot

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 09:03 AM

So, what is missing now that we've got the track list?

some observations:
-i thought in other releases they kept the original cue names, here they didn't.
-You are the pan: again the 2 cues together and not seperately in chronological order..
-the entrance of rufio is missing or is part of "from mermaids to lost boys"?
-Missing the end of hook cue?
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 09:03 AM

Neat!

It looks a bit like the expanded Indy--they left some of the album versions intact ("Remembering Childhood") and presented the unreleased portion as a separate cue.

Looks like I'll soon have an edit job to do! :)
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 09:06 AM

Since Williams co-produced, he certainly figured that his old edits were good enough survive.
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