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[Faleel]

http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/B006YZAPVE



6 CD Box Set has 87 Tracks and over 7 hours of Music.

[indy4]

It can't be definitive if it's performed by the City of Prague...

[Romão]

Their last Williams compilation had 4 cd's. This one must include re-recordings of some of the more recent scores

[tjguitar]

The 4 CD set (released in 2003) had ommitted several tracks that were previously released in the Silva library.

Since then, they've recorded numerous new Harry Potter tracks, Geisha, Munich, War of the Worlds, Tintin and War Horse among others I'm not remembering...

[Richard Penna]

At 7 hours, that's going to be pretty damn comprehensive.

It can't be definitive if it's performed by the City of Prague...

Some of their stuff is good. I prefer their version of the end credits from ToD because Willie's theme (I think it's her theme) is much slower and richer than on the OST.

[Joe Brausam]

City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.

[Thor]

City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.

Indeed.

The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.

I just say 'keep repackaging, Silva'. Get the JW love out there! This is not really for us hardcore fans in the first place.

[E.T. & Elliott]

7 hours seems around the length of my Williams Prague playlist (which currently doesn't exist in my iTunes). Perhaps not including the recent Potter stuff. I think I have almost everything they've done aside from Viktor's theme and the Irwin Allen themes. Their later stuff is better, but there are still worthwhile tracks on the earlier albums. Unique versions unavailable elsewhere.

[king mark]

Did they ever record Marion's theme from KotCS?

[tjguitar]

Did they ever record Marion's theme from KotCS?

Unless they did for this release, no.

[Jason LeBlanc]

I really hope they recorded that and Irina's Theme especially for this new CD. Hell I might buy it if they did.

[indy4]

City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.

Indeed.

The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.

C'mon, it's not like this won't be 80% or more from the John Williams 4 CD box set. And that is, for the most part, horrible. Also, I'd think that somebody whose opinions are so unpopular around here would be more tolerant of those that differ from his own.

[Thor]

City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.

Indeed.

The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.

C'mon, it's not like this won't be 80% or more from the John Williams 4 CD box set. And that is, for the most part, horrible. Also, I'd think that somebody whose opinions are so unpopular around here would be more tolerant of those that differ from his own.

I have nothing against it, it just sounds like a 'blast from the past', like criticizing Elfman for not writing his own scores (which was all the rave in the 80's and even into the 90's).

Prague has developed immensely since those days, and is now among the top film orchestras in the world.

As for the seleciton and 're-packaging'....again, these compilations aren't for hardcore fans like ourselves (even though I personally enjoy compilations like this more and more again), but for a more general public.

[Joe Brausam]

I think I'll actually buy this set. I had their 4 disc set a few years back, but ended up selling it. This could be a nice set though.

[Faleel]

"There's a new Harry Potter re-package coming out too:


http://www.amazon.co...c/dp/B00701QW1S"

[king mark]

Hmm, hopefully a choirless Double Trouble

[KK.]

"There's a new Harry Potter re-package coming out too:


http://www.amazon.co...c/dp/B00701QW1S"

It says its going to a single CD release. How is a "complete" HP collection supposed to fit on one CD?

Oh and the Prague orchestra has really become one of the best for film scores since Tadlow came into the picture!

[indy4]

City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.

Indeed.

The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.

C'mon, it's not like this won't be 80% or more from the John Williams 4 CD box set. And that is, for the most part, horrible. Also, I'd think that somebody whose opinions are so unpopular around here would be more tolerant of those that differ from his own.

I have nothing against it, it just sounds like a 'blast from the past', like criticizing Elfman for not writing his own scores (which was all the rave in the 80's and even into the 90's).

Prague has developed immensely since those days, and is now among the top film orchestras in the world.

As for the seleciton and 're-packaging'....again, these compilations aren't for hardcore fans like ourselves (even though I personally enjoy compilations like this more and more again), but for a more general public.

My comment was that this can't be a definitive recording because in all likelihood the music will be repackaged from a CD with a horrible performance. Hence, most of this 6 CD set will probably be awful, regardless of how good the orchestra has become in recent years.

[Thor]

How do you know this will be 'repackaged from a CD with a horrible performance'?

[Jason LeBlanc]

A supposed representative from Silva has posted the track list on FSM:

CD1
Star Wars: A New Hope:
01. Star Wars: A New Hope
02. Cantina Band
03. Princess Leia
04. The Throne Room / Finale
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back:
05. The Imperial March
06. Han Solo and The Princess
07. The Asteroid Field
08. Yoda's Theme
Star Wars: Return Of The Jedi:
09. Forest Battle
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace:
10.Anakin's Theme
11.The Flag Parade
12. The Adventures Of Jar Jar
13. Duel Of The Fates
Star Wars: Attack Of The Clones:
14. Across The Stars
Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith:
15. Battle Of The Heroes

CD2
Raiders Of The Lost Ark:
01. The Raiders March
02. The Map Room / Dawn
03. The Basket Game
04. Marion's Theme
05. Airplane Fight
06. The Ark Trek
07. Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom:
08. Nocturnal Activities
09. The Mine Car Chase
10. Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom End Credits
Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade:
11. Indy's First Adventure
12. X Marks The Spot / Escape From Venice
13. No Ticket / Keeping Up With The Joneses
14. Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade End Credits

CD3
Harry Potter And The Philosopher's Stone:
01. Hedwig's Theme
02. Nimbus 2000
03. Harry's Wondrous World
04. Christmas at Hogwarts
05. Leaving Hogwarts
Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets:
06. Fawkes The Phoenix
07. The Chamber of Secrets
08. Gilderoy Lockhart
09. Dobby the House Elf
10. Reunion of Friends
Harry Potter And The Prisoner of Azkaban:
11. Aunt Marge's Waltz
12. The Knight Bus
13. Double Trouble
14. A Window to the Past
15.Witches, Wands and Wizards
16. Mischief Managed / A Window to the Past / Buckbeak's Flight

CD4
01. The Adventures Of Tintin: The Secret Of The Unicorn - The Adventures Of Tintin
02. War Horse - The Reunion
03. War Of The Worlds - Suite
04. Munich - A Prayer for Peace
05. The Terminal - The Tale of Viktor Navorski
06. Minority Report
07. Catch Me If You Can
08. Artificial Intelligence: AI - Where Dreams Are Born
09. Saving Private Ryan - Hymn To The Fallen
10. Amistad - Dry Your Tears, Afrika
11. Schindler’s List - Theme
12. Jurassic Park - Suite
13. Hook - Main Themes
14. Always - Follow Me / Dorinda's Solo Flight
15. Empire Of The Sun - Exsultate Justi

CD5
01. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - Adventures On Earth
02. 1941 - March
03. Close Encounters Of The Third Kind - The Conversation Begins / Main Title / Resolution and Finale
04. Jaws
05. The Sugarland Express
06. Memoirs of a Geisha - Sayuri's Theme & End Credits
07. Far And Away - End Credits
08. JFK - Arlington / End Titles
09. Presumed Innocent
10. Born On The Fourth Of July - End Credits
11. The Witches Of Eastwick - Dance Of The Witches
12. The River - Main Theme / Love Theme
13. Olympic Fanfare and Theme

CD6
01. Dracula - Main Titles & Storm
02. The Fury
03. Superman
04. Black Sunday - Suite
05. The Missouri Breaks - Love Theme
06. Family Plot - End Titles
07. Battle of Midway
08. The Towering Inferno
09. Earthquake
10. The Long Goodbye
11. Cinderella Liberty - Nice To Be Around
12. The Poseidon Adventure
13. The Cowboys - Suite
14. Jane Eyre - Theme
15. The Rare Breed - The Cross-Breed / End Credits

[Thor]

Looks like a great collection to me, although I would rather have seen a wider presentation than the exclusive STAR WARS/INDY/HP focus on the first three discs. But on the other hand, these franchises have so much great music that they need a meaty selection.

Obviously, I own all of these (as do most of us), but still -- great career overview, with the most important stuff covered. And then some.

[E.T. & Elliott]

Bunch of new stuff:

Tintin, War Horse, Olympic Fanfare, Missouri Breaks, Long Goodbye and Cinderella Liberty previously unreleased.

[king mark]

Crap no KotCS Marion's Theme

[Faleel]

Maybe the Raiders one will turn out to be the same arrangment KM...

[king mark]

Nah they already recorded the old version

[Incanus]

Looks like a great compilation for a newbie and with a wide range of Williams' music included, not just the greatest hits. And looks like they have included some of the recent stuff and 70's rarer scores as an incentive for more devoted fans to get this.

[Miguel Andrade]

Looks like a great collection to me, although I would rather have seen a wider presentation than the exclusive STAR WARS/INDY/HP focus on the first three discs. But on the other hand, these franchises have so much great music that they need a meaty selection.

Obviously, I own all of these (as do most of us), but still -- great career overview, with the most important stuff covered. And then some.

I agree. Personally I could do without the first three discs, even knowing it's all awesome music. I prefer the focus on the other Williams stuff.

Bunch of new stuff:

Tintin, War Horse, Olympic Fanfare, Missouri Breaks, Long Goodbye and Cinderella Liberty previously unreleased.

Missouri Breaks, The Long Goodbye and Cinderella Liberty have been released before. Of course, they could have recorded them again, but not their m.o.

[E.T. & Elliott]

Well those will be new for me. I wish they'd included the Irwin Allen themes.

[Josh500]

City of Prague is actually really great now.

Yes. I'd say this is actually one of the better orchestras in the world... and I will probably get this set.

[MissPadmé]

You can get the new

The Adventures of Tintin
War Horse tracks

through itunes, since 12.12.2011. The Album is called "Filmmusic 2011" (Tintin is a fantastic new interpretation.. a little bit more quirky than the OST Version!)

[indy4]

Well I stand corrected, there's a decent amount of good, unusual stuff on here. I just hope they rerecorded some of the tracks available on their previous 4 CD compilation (especially "Adventures on Earth" and "Duel of the Fates"). I probably won't get this.

[E.T. & Elliott]

It'll probably be the old stuff. I don't have the 40 Years set handy, but is this that with additional CDs? It looks like I may even be able to ditch the Star Wars and Harry Potter CDs.

I think their versions are still worth having. Some definitely stink. Some of their slower interpretations are actually pretty neat played in that tempo. They're also an occasional break from the usual versions we all know and love. Plus, their versions of Towering Inferno main title and the concert version of Dry Your Tears, Afrika kick ass.

[Joe Brausam]

I don't remember what was wrong with Duel of the Fates, but Adventures on Earth was performed at such a dismal tempo if I remember right. What bothers me most is their recording of Arlington from JFK - I seem to remember the horn solo in the beginning having a blatant wrong pitch. But it was played with such conviction and never fixed obviously, which makes me think it's a problem in Nic Raine's transcription of the piece.

[indy4]

What bothers me most is their recording of Arlington from JFK - I seem to remember the horn solo in the beginning having a blatant wrong pitch. But it was played with such conviction and never fixed obviously, which makes me think it's a problem in Nic Raine's transcription of the piece.

Lol, just listened and you're right.

[tjguitar]

It'll probably be the old stuff. I don't have the 40 Years set handy, but is this that with additional CDs? It looks like I may even be able to ditch the Star Wars and Harry Potter CDs.

Not really. The 40 years set had more cues from Jane Eyre and Rare Breed to name a few, but this new set renders the Six Star Wars Films disc, the Indiana Jones Trilogy disc, and the Harry Potter compilation obsolete (if you don't care about the Doyle and Hooper scores).

[Incanus]

I don't remember what was wrong with Duel of the Fates, but Adventures on Earth was performed at such a dismal tempo if I remember right. What bothers me most is their recording of Arlington from JFK - I seem to remember the horn solo in the beginning having a blatant wrong pitch. But it was played with such conviction and never fixed obviously, which makes me think it's a problem in Nic Raine's transcription of the piece.

And I seem to remember this version had cornet solo instead of a horn. I would check but I am moving soon and all my JW CDs are in boxes already.

[Joe Brausam]

Nooo, it's definitely a horn in the recording, i just checked it on itunes.

[fommes]

Seems to be nothing of interest here, and except two or three all are previously released. I wish they'd focus on recording unreleased concert pieces of his film scores instead: in this way they would interest both parts of the filmmusic market - casual buyers and the die-hard JW fans.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Agreed!

[Miguel Andrade]

Seems to be nothing of interest here, and except two or three all are previously released. I wish they'd focus on recording unreleased concert pieces of his film scores instead: in this way they would interest both parts of the filmmusic market - casual buyers and the die-hard JW fans.

They did that, trying to please the die hard fans, with recordings of the concert version of JFK's prologue, or the suites from Black Sunday and The Rare Breed... but people keep saying how bad they are. I can see why they won't put much more effort on this anymore.