17 replies to this topic

[Alexander]

Hey guys,

I'm having some trouble with my parents about the fact that i download a lot of stuff.

Some kid in my country had put a music file on the internet and SABAM arrested him.

Now they are paranoid. I explained them the law and showed them proof that a lawyer said that it's perfectly legal to download stuff. They're still paranoid.

Now what i was going to ask.

I have some videos uploaded to youtube but they're not recognised as having illegal content, but they atually do. Should i remove these? Can i get into trouble with these videos? Can the film industry sue me for that?

[Jason LeBlanc]

Nope, you're fine

The ONLY thing youtube EVER does to anyone is just remove the video. No big deal.

[Alexander]

I deleted them anyway

[Quint]

JESUS CHRIST YOUR PARENTS DONT KNOW YOUR A MEMBER HERE DO THEY?!

[BloodBoal]

No bid deal.

I agree. I wouldn't bet on that.

[Stefancos]

Kid, downloading is a crime!

It may seem like a victimless activity. You save a little money, no one gets hurt. But behind the façade a terrible criminal enterprise is earning money of illegal downloads and bootlegs. This money goes straight into other criminal and inhuman affairs, like drug trafficking, child pornography and Rick Santorum's Super PAC....

Don't be a part of the problem, be the solution!

[Alexander]

Downloading isn't illegal, it's distributing suff that's illegal.

JESUS CHRIST YOUR PARENTS DONT KNOW YOUR A MEMBER HERE DO THEY?!

Of course they do, that's why they got paranoid, because i download a lot of stuff.

[Quint]

You're screwed!

Argh shit man, I don't know what to say to you. It's gonna get rough. Hold in there and NEVER lose hope.

[Josh500]

Hey guys,

I'm having some trouble with my parents about the fact that i download a lot of stuff.

Some kid in my country had put a music file on the internet and SABAM arrested him.

Now they are paranoid. I explained them the law and showed them proof that a lawyer said that it's perfectly legal to download stuff. They're still paranoid.

Now what i was going to ask.

I have some videos uploaded to youtube but they're not recognised as having illegal content, but they atually do. Should i remove these? Can i get into trouble with these videos? Can the film industry sue me for that?

Right! And your country being the USS Enterprise?

Boy, you're in big trouble!

[Koray Savas]

Downloading isn't illegal, it's distributing suff that's illegal.

JESUS CHRIST YOUR PARENTS DONT KNOW YOUR A MEMBER HERE DO THEY?!

Of course they do, that's why they got paranoid, because i download a lot of stuff.

I'm pretty sure downloading is illegal. It's just so widespread that it's easier to take out the source, the distributor. If cops raid a speakeasy during the Prohibition, you think all the patrons go scott free while the bartender takes all the blame? In the end, you're consuming something that was illegally obtained.

Oh, and why do you tell your parents your browsing history? Just curious.

[Chaac]

I'm pretty sure downloading is illegal.

Depends on where you are.

I don't know in Belgium, but in Spain they once announced they were going to download things in public in front of the police. They went there, downloaded, nobody did anything.

[Ricard]

in Spain they once announced they were going to download things in public in front of the police.

What a ridiculous thing to do.

[Chaac]

Yep. Anyway p2p has been declared here legal a pair of times, but there's always this tendecy to make it look illegal regardless.

[Drax]

Just the simple act clicking any weblink leads to your computer downloading something. May as well arrest everyone.

[indy4]

This is only tangentially related to this thread topic, but I've been thinking about the SOPA aftershocks, and even if Congress does pass them I can't imagine Obama signing them in the US, at least not before the election. He relied a lot on the young people's vote in 2008, and cracking down on online piracy would certainly lose him a lot of those votes.

[Stefancos]

Obama recently passed a law that made it possible for any US citizen to be arrested and detained without trail.

You think downloaders scare him?

[indy4]

Obama recently passed a law that made it possible for any US citizen to be arrested and detained without trail.

You think downloaders scare him?

Yeah, but after the Patriot Act these types of laws are nothing new. They get a lot of attention from journalists and political analysts, but for some reason they don't really affect voting that much. Probably because every Republican candidate (except Ron Paul, who doesn't have a chance) want to keep these laws intact.

Attacking downloading would feel much more real to the young population than these vague but dangerous attacks on liberty.

[Wojo]

Obama recently passed a law that made it possible for any US citizen to be arrested and detained without trail.

So the Sixth Amendment guarantees a right to happy trails?

I thought it guaranteed the right to a speedy trial...