The Adventures of Tintin score featurette
Started by ckappes, Mar 07 2012 01:47 AM
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:47 AM
„It’s still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people.”
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:58 AM
Thanks for posting! We've never heard JW do more than acknowledge the score to Tinitn, so it's great to finally hear him speak in some detail. It also explains some elements of the scoring: why "Sir Francis and the Unicorn" is so much better than the other action cues, and why there were 2 recording sessions.
And it confirms that there were multiple versions of the main title cue. I doubt any of them would be better than the final version, but I would love to hear the other options.
And it confirms that there were multiple versions of the main title cue. I doubt any of them would be better than the final version, but I would love to hear the other options.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:04 AM
Great, thanks.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:23 AM
That was fantastic! Thanks for sharing Ethan! Its great to hear a full, in depth look into Tintin. What an awesome score!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:29 AM
I liked that bit on the score. I probably won't see it again, but I liked hearing JW discuss the process and so forth.
I'm irritated at Paramount... seems like every Blu-ray 3D they release nowadays are the ones with the best cover art. Captain America, Hugo and now Adventures of Tintin. Can't they use the gorgeous one-sheet artwork for the DVD too?
I'm irritated at Paramount... seems like every Blu-ray 3D they release nowadays are the ones with the best cover art. Captain America, Hugo and now Adventures of Tintin. Can't they use the gorgeous one-sheet artwork for the DVD too?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 03:21 AM
That was so great! I wish there was more, though...
On the plus side, I love how enthuastic Williams talks about the music. Lighter pictures seem to bring him a lot of joy.
I really hope he can do one or two more animated films, apart from the sequel of course.
On the plus side, I love how enthuastic Williams talks about the music. Lighter pictures seem to bring him a lot of joy.
I really hope he can do one or two more animated films, apart from the sequel of course.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:29 AM
Thanks for posting this! Now that was an excellent little featurette. Of course I could have listened to them parsing the music a lot longer. 
The euphonium and accordion duet for Thompsons was something I have not caught while listening to the score. I thought that the brass instrument heard was tuba.
The euphonium and accordion duet for Thompsons was something I have not caught while listening to the score. I thought that the brass instrument heard was tuba.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:36 AM
Williams already forgot he scored Tintin
Aren't you a little too long in the tooth to be watching Tintin yourself?
Thanks for posting! We've never heard JW do more than acknowledge the score to Tinitn, so it's great to finally hear him speak in some detail. It also explains some elements of the scoring: why "Sir Francis and the Unicorn" is so much better than the other action cues, and why there were 2 recording sessions.
And it confirms that there were multiple versions of the main title cue. I doubt any of them would be better than the final version, but I would love to hear the other options.
Agreed!
Wonderful!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:13 AM
Wow that was freakin' brilliant! Thanks for posting.
Such a great movie and score. I'm reminded of how masterful the Haddock flashback sequence is from a film making perspective: Spielberg is dead right - Williams' music is what binds this extremely complex idea together and makes it make sense as a expository device. Just wonderful execution on every level; so easy to overlook and indeed, take for granted.
Such a great movie and score. I'm reminded of how masterful the Haddock flashback sequence is from a film making perspective: Spielberg is dead right - Williams' music is what binds this extremely complex idea together and makes it make sense as a expository device. Just wonderful execution on every level; so easy to overlook and indeed, take for granted.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:31 AM
Great featurette. Hopefully the one on War Horse will be just as good.
Here's the details.
http://www.hidefninj...oon-to-blu-ray/
Here's the details.
http://www.hidefninj...oon-to-blu-ray/
Oh, War Horse is great! - John Williams
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:36 AM
Lovely video. Thanks for posting! 
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:43 AM
Actually now that I have seen this there's no need for me now to get the Special Edition DVD of Tintin... !
I will just get your standard 1-DVD edition of this film.
I will just get your standard 1-DVD edition of this film.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:25 PM
Personally I think that was one of the best DVD documentry extras on JW, I adore seeing him work the orchestra at a recording session. Lets hope someone gets that alternate opening title sequence out on a complete score album 
i'm hoping for another great score feature on War Horse
Thanks for posting.
The specs of the Blu-Ray
1080p High Definition
High Definition 2.35:1
No 7.1 audio!
DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
Really dissapointed about this, I really wanted it in 7.1 as in cinemas
i'm hoping for another great score feature on War Horse
Thanks for posting.
The specs of the Blu-Ray
1080p High Definition
High Definition 2.35:1
No 7.1 audio!
DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
Really dissapointed about this, I really wanted it in 7.1 as in cinemas
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:42 PM
Wow, the master at work!
Watching him conduct with such energy and gusto, gives me pleasurable chills...
Watching him conduct with such energy and gusto, gives me pleasurable chills...
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:51 PM
I wonder when Spielberg will finally bring out all the countless footage hours of JW's scoring sessions and will edit a proper documentary about his friend...
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:54 PM
Personally I think that was one of the best DVD documentry extras on JW, I adore seeing him work the orchestra at a recording session. Lets hope someone gets that alternate opening title sequence out on a complete score album
i'm hoping for another great score feature on War Horse
Thanks for posting.
The specs of the Blu-Ray
1080p High Definition
High Definition 2.35:1
No 7.1 audio!
DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
Really dissapointed about this, I really wanted it in 7.1 as in cinemas
A couple of surround channels makes no difference to me. I just watch movies in 2-channel stereo.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:55 PM
I'm happy now, apparently Bluray Tintin IS in 7.1 
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:57 PM
This is really a great JW featurette!
One disappointing thing, though: most (or all?) of the music you hear is not what the orchestra is actually playing in the footage, is it? It's from the OS recording...
Oh well.
One disappointing thing, though: most (or all?) of the music you hear is not what the orchestra is actually playing in the footage, is it? It's from the OS recording...
Oh well.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:00 PM
I wonder when Spielberg will finally bring out all the countless footage hours of JW's scoring sessions and will edit a proper documentary about his friend...
Now that would be a dream
Personally I think that was one of the best DVD documentry extras on JW, I adore seeing him work the orchestra at a recording session. Lets hope someone gets that alternate opening title sequence out on a complete score album
i'm hoping for another great score feature on War Horse
Thanks for posting.
The specs of the Blu-Ray
1080p High Definition
High Definition 2.35:1
No 7.1 audio!
DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
Really dissapointed about this, I really wanted it in 7.1 as in cinemas
A couple of surround channels makes no difference to me. I just watch movies in 2-channel stereo.
I can see your point but I spent a heafty work bonus last year on a full home cinema system and have to say 7.1 discs sound a lot more fuller. I hope War Horse is 7.1 too
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:11 PM
Certainly one of the better music featurettes we have from Williams.
So now we have 100% proof that JW initially worked on Tintin for 4 months, then recorded his score, and did not work continuously on it for 16 months as some have suggested.
So now we have 100% proof that JW initially worked on Tintin for 4 months, then recorded his score, and did not work continuously on it for 16 months as some have suggested.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:19 PM
Yup. I thought that was fairly obvious but as you say this is the proof.Certainly one of the better music featurettes we have from Williams.
So now we have 100% proof that JW initially worked on Tintin for 4 months, then recorded his score, and did not work continuously on it for 16 months as some have suggested.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:21 PM
It's "State The Obvious Wednesday"
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:26 PM
Spielberg should create a big 40 years collaboration documentary where interviews with Williams and the director would be interspersed with long sections of the recording sessions footage Spielberg has shot over the years. They could do some really in-depth parsing of each and every collaboration they have done.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:35 PM
Spielberg should create a big 40 years collaboration documentary where interviews with Williams and the director would be interspersed with long sections of the recording sessions footage Spielberg has shot over the years. They could do some really in-depth parsing of each and every collaboration they have done.
Stop it you are making me drool
could you imagine how good something like that would be.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:38 PM
And then they would have it truncated by Laurent Bouzereau.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:14 PM
AWESOME! I'm going to make an edit now.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 03:53 PM
I wonder why the euphonium player isn't in the liner notes?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:09 PM
My guess is that the tuba player Jim Self was doubling as the euphonium player.I wonder why the euphonium player isn't in the liner notes?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:36 PM
If one of the other players doubled, I'd imagine it would be a trombonist. Most professional trombone players know how to play euphonium.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:53 PM
Wow. I must have watched too many music featurettes or I've recognized that trumpet guy; he's also featured in The River Wild clips...
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:58 PM
Is that McNab?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:18 PM
That's a good guess since he is on every other soundtrack recording. 
Interesting. I had no idea. I assumed since it is relative of tuba it would be played by a tuba player.If one of the other players doubled, I'd imagine it would be a trombonist. Most professional trombone players know how to play euphonium.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:19 PM
Excellent stuff!
Makes me yearn even more for a feature length interview with him, or a feature length recording sessions film (one of those Spielberg has shot, and that others above have already mentioned).
Makes me yearn even more for a feature length interview with him, or a feature length recording sessions film (one of those Spielberg has shot, and that others above have already mentioned).
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:00 PM
While the actual timbre is closer to a tuba, the range and technique required to play it is more similar to that needed to play a trombone. And a lot of trombonists can already play baritone from marching band or drum corps, which is a close cousin to the euphonium (the fingerings are the same).That's a good guess since he is on every other soundtrack recording.
Interesting. I had no idea. I assumed since it is relative of tuba it would be played by a tuba player.
If one of the other players doubled, I'd imagine it would be a trombonist. Most professional trombone players know how to play euphonium.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:21 PM
This is really a great JW featurette!
One disappointing thing, though: most (or all?) of the music you hear is not what the orchestra is actually playing in the footage, is it? It's from the OS recording...
Oh well.
Another disappointing thing is that we don't get to see Gloria Cheng hammering on the piano...
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:00 PM
Do you think John Williams recorded the alternate opening cues or just played them through with the orchestra? If they were recorded someone needs to get them released, I would just love to hear them so much!!! Great featurette though 
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:17 PM
Makes me yearn even more for a feature length interview with him, or a feature length recording sessions film (one of those Spielberg has shot, and that others above have already mentioned).
What's this, Thor wants an extended version of something JW related, and nobody even takes notice?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:17 PM
the alternate opening are the tintin theme rousing fanfare everyone was expecting... to haveon the OST as a concert version of the theme.. :/
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:24 PM
Makes me yearn even more for a feature length interview with him, or a feature length recording sessions film (one of those Spielberg has shot, and that others above have already mentioned).
What's this, Thor wants an extended version of something JW related, and nobody even takes notice?
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