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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:30 AM

I dunno, maybe were overestimating how popular Hook is as a score in the general film score population

sure it's popular here at JWfan , but the FSM crowd would rather have a more obscure Goldsmith title than this

I read a page of comments there and a lot seemed to say the OST had enough music

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:23 AM

It does.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:25 AM


Hook is more popular than Star Trek V


I really don't think so. That is a Goldsmith score.


Yes, the Star Trek franchise has much more aficionados than Hook, I guess.

I'm sure it will sell out pretty fast, but I don't expect an instant 24-48 hrs one.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:37 AM

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:48 AM

Yes, the Star Trek franchise has much more aficionados than Hook, I guess.

I'm sure it will sell out pretty fast, but I don't expect an instant 24-48 hrs one.


It will be a few weeks I guess.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:30 AM

Now the questions is whether Peter Pan is more popular than Star Trek. ;)

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:43 AM

Trying to use a bit of logic here, I think 5000 is a high enough number to make it stick around for a while. Sure, it's a fan favourite -- long desired -- but I've seen bigger titles with only 3000 CD's take a long, long time. Also, there are -- believe it or not -- quite a few people like me who love Williams, love the score, but that are content with the Epic release. So they're probably out too.


Actually I agree with this.

It's hard to imagine 5,000 (!) copies selling out within 2 or 3 days. Sure, there will be many who will buy multiple copies, but even so... 5,000 is a LOT!

I would say April 12th, 6:00 PM.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:56 AM

Hook will not sell out

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:57 AM

You they should just count how many people want it and the press one more copy. ;)

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:06 PM



April 3rd, 1PM PST. 2 Weeks.


I hate to break it to you, but April 3rd is only one week later!

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:07 PM

24 HOURS IS LIKE 3 WEEKS!

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:10 PM


April 3rd, 1PM PST. 2 Weeks.


I hate to break it to you, but April 3rd is only one week later!


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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

Thuesday 3rd March at 09:15 PM PST.


Does not compute

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:45 PM

I forgot to add the time of day to my pick.

So May 17, 14:00 (that's 2 PM to you).

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:48 PM


Thuesday 3rd March at 09:15 PM PST.


Does not compute


He means 2013...

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:50 PM

I forgot to add the time of day to my pick.

So May 17, 14:00 (that's 2 PM to you).


I wish. But it won't happen.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

5,000 copies, a generous and cheap to obtain OST; I'm going to go with...

June 2nd, Noon

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:39 PM

April 2nd 1PM

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:40 PM

5,000 copies, a generous and cheap to obtain OST; I'm going to go with...

June 2nd, Noon


Dammit! I wanted to have the latest date!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:25 PM

Okay, what did those guys at La-La Land Records say on Movie Magic Special (great interview by the way)? Only one release with an initial run of 5,000 copies ever sold out?

Now I am starting to think it'll take at least 2 months for Hook to sell out, if not longer!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:30 PM

Yeah, it was Star Trek V, and apparently it took about four months (it helped that a bunch of other retailers bought a lot at the last minute).

Ya know, I kinda hope it doesn't sell out for a while. This music deserves to be available as long as it can.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:34 PM

Yes, that's it exactly!

There are really only so many soundtrack buffs out there. It might take only 1 day to sell the first 2,000 copies, a week to sell 3,000 copies, but I am thinking it will take many, many months to sell all 5,000 copies. Because the demand is obviously there... but it's very limited.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:11 PM

Hmm....maybe I should buy 4900 copies just to make sure I win this pool! :P

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:20 PM

Hmm....maybe I should buy 4900 copies just to make sure I win this pool! :P


Please no! ;)

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The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:23 AM

You can still check, at any given point in time, how many copies are still left, right?

You just pretend to order a very great number of copies and see what it says back, right?

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

Judging from what the LLL guys said in Tim' s show, they dont expect Hook to sell out in days. One of their fastest 5000 unit sellers, Star Trek V took 4 months to hell out.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:28 AM

Like they said, it's very difficult to have a realistic perception about these things. You wouldn't expect some titles to go as fast as they did and you wouldn't expect to sit still on copies of major oft-requested titles like Batman or ID4.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:51 AM

Batman just didn't have as much pivotal music missing on the original soundtrack. Most of the best stuff was already there. I also still don't think a score like ID4 was really that desired. Who knows, maybe Hook will stick around for a while.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:05 PM

Let's just hope that all who want it are able to get it. :)

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

Which recent Lala Land soundtracks had a run of 5,000 copies, though? Batman? ID4?

They said with only one exception (ST5), no release which had a run of 5,000 copies ever sold out... so I think we can be pretty sure, that Hook will last for a while. And who knows? Maybe Hook will never sell out, like Bloodboal says.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:59 PM

Which recent Lala Land soundtracks had a run of 5,000 copies, though? Batman? ID4?


http://en.wikipedia....La_Land_Records

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:16 PM


Which recent Lala Land soundtracks had a run of 5,000 copies, though? Batman? ID4?


http://en.wikipedia....La_Land_Records


Oh yeah, thanks!

Seems like there aren't too many scores released with a print run of 5,000 copies! Only some Jerry Goldsmith scores and Hook!

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:23 PM


Thuesday 3rd March at 09:15 PM PST.


Does not compute


Oops i meant "April"

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:24 PM

Only some Jerry Goldsmith scores


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The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:19 PM

You can still check, at any given point in time, how many copies are still left, right?

You just pretend to order a very great number of copies and see what it says back, right?


A) You are assuming that LLR's inventory does not have a safety stock feature, by which it would retain a set amount or fixed percentage of remaining inventory that is not for sale.
B) You are disregarding all units that LLR has sold to third parties, e.g. Intrada, SAE, MovieMusic, BSX, etc.

Putting a very large number in my shopping cart doesn't give me a warm fuzzy.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:27 PM


Only some Jerry Goldsmith scores


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:lol: Dude, chill out, I meant no disrespect...


You can still check, at any given point in time, how many copies are still left, right?

You just pretend to order a very great number of copies and see what it says back, right?


A) You are assuming that LLR's inventory does not have a safety stock feature, by which it would retain a set amount or fixed percentage of remaining inventory that is not for sale.
B) You are disregarding all units that LLR has sold to third parties, e.g. Intrada, SAE, MovieMusic, BSX, etc.

Putting a very large number in my shopping cart doesn't give me a warm fuzzy.


Hmmmm, so you're saying, no? You can't check how many copies are still left that way?

Still, I'll be damned if all 5,000 copies of "Hook" sell out within 2 weeks!

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:34 PM

By putting a large number of items in your cart at a single vendor, all you are checking is...how large of a number you can put into your cart at a single vendor.

Whatever conclusion you draw from this very limited subset of information is up to you.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

By putting a large number of items in your cart at a single vendor, all you are checking is...how large of a number you can put into your cart at a single vendor.

Whatever conclusion you draw from this very limited subset of information is up to you.


Well, it's not like I came up with idea myself.

Somebody else (was it Miss Padmé?) did it, and wrote about it here... I just wasn't sure whether this really worked.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:37 PM

There is no way to find out how many more units remain to be sold of a La-La Land release unless they tell us.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:41 PM

Thank you. Apparently I was continually saying nothing of the sort.




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