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GNP Crescendo announces Star Trek First Contact Complete.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:29 PM
Good Goldsmith means at least uber-competent craftmanship, but the later STAR TREKS tend to be a bit workmanlike. Ironically, the much-maligned NEMESIS is the most impessive from pure compositional standpoint (though its slight thematic content make it a bit hard to love).
Nemesis has a brilliant theme, but I've never been able to get into the rest of the score. I like First Contact quite a bit, but of the last three Treks, Insurrection is my favourite. Primarily workmanship, no doubt, but on the highest level. I love the pounding action music and the use of echoplex effects.
Come to think of it, FC might have been my first Goldsmith album.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:31 PM
It was also my first Goldsmith album. I copied somebody's cassette back in high school, and then I went out and bought the CD. Star Trek V (and VI) were bought next, giving me my second JG. If you can't guess what my third JG was, you haven't been paying attention.
JanBing's cover is also awesome.
JanBing's cover is also awesome.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:31 PM
Now THAT is awesome, JanBing.
Definitely, my favourite so far. If I bought this, I'd use that cover, no question.
I generally prefer covers that try to stand out a bit more, along with the film title. Some covers tuck the credit away in the corner or at the bottom - they don't work for me as well.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:16 AM
If I bought this, I'd use that cover, no question.
Now THAT is awesome, JanBing.
I'm planning to get this in a couple weeks and I'll definitely be using JanBing's cover, if only for my mp3 player.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:19 AM
And with that, welcome to the board!
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:44 AM
And with that, welcome to the board!
Thanks! I've been a lurker for a long time.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:52 AM
This was my first Goldsmith soundtrack too. It was the height of Trek mania, total opposite to this dark age.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:03 AM
Indeed. Well balanced in all respects.Now THAT is awesome, JanBing.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:58 PM
Indeed. Well balanced in all respects.
Now THAT is awesome, JanBing.
GNP needs to hire JanBing and get rid of the monkeys they have in the art department.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:20 PM
I remember when the OST first came out. It took quite a while for it come out after the film was released in theaters.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:30 PM
really I seem to recall that I bought it the tuesday before....
I prefer the music to Insurrection but I like FC well enough.
I prefer the music to Insurrection but I like FC well enough.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:33 PM
Hmmm....maybe it was the Enterprise-E model I was thinking about that took about a year to come out after the film.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:54 PM
I had the CD a while before the movie came out.
In my pre internet day i found out Jerry had scored this when i saw a clip of the film on Barry Norman's FILM 96.
It had part of Temporal Wake, and my heart skipped a beat when I heard The Klingon theme.
In my pre internet day i found out Jerry had scored this when i saw a clip of the film on Barry Norman's FILM 96.
It had part of Temporal Wake, and my heart skipped a beat when I heard The Klingon theme.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:10 PM
I'd prefer to get Generations first.
Sooo ordered. But I agree I am hoping Generations will be next.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:35 PM
Vosk is correct in that it did take a bit for the new Enterprise E to have a model.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:50 PM
I got my copy for First Contact today in the mail. The cover actually looks better in person than what was posted on GNP's site. However, the rest of the artwork is meh.
The cover actually looks better in person than what was posted on GNP's site. However, the rest of the artwork is meh.
""Fear. Fear attracts the fearful. The strong, the weak, the corrupt, the innocent. Fear is my ally."
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:54 PM
What about the actual CD?
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:05 PM
What about the actual CD?
It's OKAY to say the least. It's a bit of a close up of the Borg sphere.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:08 PM
I mean the sound quality/presentation, silly.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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I mean the sound quality/presentation, silly.
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Oh gotcha. The sound quality is great. Mike Matessino and Bruce Botnick did an awesome job on the remastering.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:19 PM
It's the only ST score (not counting McCarthy's) that I haven't got in my collection. I was about to buy the OST last week, but some impulse inside stopped me from doing so.
I know the main theme from this score and I love it. It's an almost natural B theme to his Enterprise theme.
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I know the main theme from this score and I love it. It's an almost natural B theme to his Enterprise theme.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:31 PM
Ah. I think you'll like the score. It's definitely a great listen.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:04 AM
I decided to do a slightly different one for First Contact's cover. This time with out the Borgafied Earth in the background.
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Nice Trent.
I have to say, I like your "less is more" approach, without having too much in the way of additional elements to potentially clutter up the key content (poster art, logo, composer credit and "original soundtrack" blurb).
Have you considered doing this for all of the Star Trek scores?
I have to say, I like your "less is more" approach, without having too much in the way of additional elements to potentially clutter up the key content (poster art, logo, composer credit and "original soundtrack" blurb).
Have you considered doing this for all of the Star Trek scores?
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:16 PM
I mean the sound quality/presentation, silly.
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Oh gotcha. The sound quality is great. Mike Matessino and Bruce Botnick did an awesome job on the remastering.
Ahhh!!!! I want it noooowww!! Hopefully it's sitting in my mailbox as I type..
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As of yesterday at 3:00pm, they have shipped up to 180-ish.
I'm order 588 !!!!
I understand they are working as fast as they can, but I want it NOW !!!! (Why am I thinking of Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka right now?)
I'm order 588 !!!!
I understand they are working as fast as they can, but I want it NOW !!!! (Why am I thinking of Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka right now?)
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 06:28 PM
Ha! I'm 556.
I'm not bothered to be honest. Bought so many albums and had so little time to actually digest them all that I can wait a week or two for this to arrive. Having said that, Hook is still not here.
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I'm not bothered to be honest. Bought so many albums and had so little time to actually digest them all that I can wait a week or two for this to arrive. Having said that, Hook is still not here.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 06:40 PM
I'm listening to it now - I'm up to track 10 only so far, but the sound quality is amazing! You can hear room noises and everything just sounds super crisp and clear. Seems like a perfect release!
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I was 53!! It BETTER be there.
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Where did you guys order? All directly at GNP? Do we know when retaielrs get this in stock?
I've ordered mine at MM and am moderately impatient since my Hook order is still pending at SAE. I want *something* soon.
I've ordered mine at MM and am moderately impatient since my Hook order is still pending at SAE. I want *something* soon.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:45 PM
Directly from GNP. But it's still pending for the third day. Same with my Alien order from Intrada.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:36 PM
I'm listening to it now - I'm up to track 10 only so far, but the sound quality is amazing! You can hear room noises and everything just sounds super crisp and clear. Seems like a perfect release!
How awesome is Search for the Borg?
Trent, I like the updated cover more than the other. The planet looked like Tatooine or something Star Warsy.
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Trent, I like the updated cover more than the other. The planet looked like Tatooine or something Star Warsy.
Thanks.
Where did you guys order? All directly at GNP? Do we know when retaielrs get this in stock?
I ordered mine directly from GNP.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 12:43 AM
Got mine. Listened straight through. This is an exceptional release. Sound quality is startling. This has to be one of the best unexpected surprises in recent memory.
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Mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow, as well as The Black Cauldron. It'll be a great day!
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:35 AM
Seems amazon has it: http://www.amazon.co...33748471&sr=1-3
This wasn't on my immediate purchase list, so I can deal with an extended wait for that kind of savings.
This wasn't on my immediate purchase list, so I can deal with an extended wait for that kind of savings.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:28 PM
Listening to this right now for the first time.
Sound quality is fabulous, really fabulous.
I had not actually listened to this score for a few years. The main theme really gave me goosebumps just now.
Sound quality is fabulous, really fabulous.
I had not actually listened to this score for a few years. The main theme really gave me goosebumps just now.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:37 PM
The main theme is one of my favourites from Jerry. I think it s fantastic way to open the film and score as well, the significance of the theme becoming gradually clearer since much of the score is quite dark and eerie and action oriented. Goldsmith is saying "This is what this film is actually all about!". And then he brings it to a wonderful conclusion in the finale cues. Magnificent.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:39 PM
He doing basically what he tried to do with Alien.
Jonathan Frakes expected that Jerry would write something dark and ominous to signify the threat of the Borg in the main title. Jerry went another way, and it really works.
Jonathan Frakes expected that Jerry would write something dark and ominous to signify the threat of the Borg in the main title. Jerry went another way, and it really works.
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