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#1 Jay

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:19 PM

Hook

A Complete Score Analysis

by Jason LeBlanc


Chronological Order (Official Sources only)



#TitleLengthSource
1Prologue1:30LLL 1-01
2We Don’t Wanna Grow Up1:50LLL 1-02
3Banning Back Home3:14LLL 2-11
4Wendy's Entrance2:11LLL 1-04 [0:46-end]
5The Bedroom1:07LLL 1-05
6The Nursey Scene1:38LLL 1-06
7Saying Goodnight0:56LLL 1-07
8Hook Returns To Kensington1:57LLL 1-08 [1:59-end]
9Hook Is Back2:02LLL 1-08 [0:00-2:02]
10Forgotten How To Fly0:46LLL 1-04 [0:00-0:46]
11Looney Wendy2:24LLL 2-14
12The Arrival Of Tink / The Flight To Neverland6:03LLL 1-10
13Presenting The Hook5:03LLL 2-12
14Hook's Entrance2:41LLL 1-12
15Hook Challenges Peter7:50LLL 1-13
16From Mermaids To Lost Boys5:13LLL 1-14
17The Lost Boy Ballet3:32LLL 1-15
18The Face Of Pan2:40LLL 2-02 [1:21-end]
19Don't Try To Stop Me.... Smee!2:17LLL 2-13
20Smee’s Plan / Believe Your Eyes3:25LLL 1-16
21More Never Band1:20LLL 1-17
22Hook Lessons3:08LLL 1-18
23The Banquet3:10LLL 1-19
24The Never-Feast / Cutting The Coconut4:41LLL 1-20
25When You’re Alone3:16LLL 2-03
26Stop That Clock!4:00LLL 1-21
27Remembering Childhood13:42LLL 2-01 [0:00-2:44] / LLL 1-22 / LLL 2-01 [2:44-end]
28You Are The Pan1:21LLL 2-02 [0:00-1:21]
29Tink Grows Up2:20LLL 2-04
30The Ultimate War17:53LLL 2-05 / 2-06 / 2-07
31Farewell Neverland11:15LLL 2-08
32End Credit1:48LLL 2-09 [0:00-1:48]
33Epilogue1:42LLL 2-15
BONUS TRACKS
34Prologue (Alternate)1:35LLL 2-10
35Banning Back Home (Album Version)2:25LLL 1-03
36Looney Wendy Insert1:06LLL 1-09
37The Flight To Neverland (Original Ending)1:31OST 06 [4:24-end]
38The Face Of Pan (No Choir)2:38OST 14 [1:21-end]




Complete Cue List



Note: All bolded cue titles are confirmed; The rest are made up titles by me.

#Cue TitleBest LocationNotes
1Hook Trailer1:31LLL 2-10 Prologue (Alternate)1:35
2  Revised version1:23LLL 1-01 Prologue1:32Needs to be speed up by 8.884%
31m1 Piano Intro0:42LLL 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up [0:00-0:42]0:42
41m2 Peter's Entrance1:07Unreleased (1:01) / LLL 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up [0:42-0:48]0:06Unreleased section only available via DVD/Blu Ray rip [0:32-1:53]
51m3 We Don't Wanna Grow Up1:00LLL 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up [0:48-end]1:00
61m4 Yuppie Sounds3:15LLL 2-11 Banning Back Home (Film Version)3:15Film Stem Rip
7  Album Version2:22LLL 1-03 Banning Back Home2:25
81m5 God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen1:02UnreleasedOnly available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
92m1 Wendy's Entrance2:11LLL 1-04 Granny Wendy [0:46-end]2:11Clean opening only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
102m2 The Bedroom1:08LLL 1-05 The Bedroom1:07
113m1 The Nursey Scene1:40LLL 1-06 The Nursery1:38
123m2 Saying Goodnight0:56LLL 1-07 The Watch0:56
133m3 Hook Returns To Kensington1:58LLL 1-08 Hook-Napped [1:59-end]1:57Clean opening available on pre-Concorde 1-08 Hook Attacks
144m1 Hook Is Back2:07LLL 1-08 Hook-Napped [0:00-2:02]2:02Clean ending available on pre-Concorde 1-09 The Children Were Screaming
154m2 Forgotten How To Fly0:56LLL 1-04 Granny Wendy [0:00-0:46]0:46Clean ending available on pre-Concorde 1-03 Granny Wendy I
164m3 Looney Wendy (Part 1)1:06LLL 2-14 Wendy Tells Peter The Truth [0:00-1:02]1:02
17  Looney Wendy Insert1:06LLL 1-09 A Portrait Of Wendy1:06
184m3 Looney Wendy (Part 2)1:19LLL 2-14 Wendy Tells Peter The Truth [1:02-end]1:21Concorde I-10 (1:03-end) is proper film take, but worse sound quality
194m4 The Arrival Of Tink3:31LLL 1-10 The Arrival Of Tink [0:00-1:53] / pre-C 1-12 [1:55-2:59] / [2:59-3:27]3:25Clean ending available on pre-Concorde 1-12 The Appearance of Tink
20  Revised celeste section1:06LLL 1-10 The Arrival Of Tink [1:53-2:59]1:06
214m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 1)1:03pre-C 113 Flight To Neverland 0:00-0:03 / LLL 1-10 The Flight To Neverland [3:27-4:24]1:00
224m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 2)1:33LLL 1-10 The Flight To Neverland [4:24-5:20] / OST 06 The Flight To Neverland [5:20-end]0:56
23  Revised Ending (86-98)0:43LLL 1-10 The Flight To Neverland [5:20-end]0:37Film Stem Rip, pre-Concorde 1-15 Flight To Neverland III is from sessions
245m2 Arrival At Neverland0:55Unreleased
25  Revised (Part 1)0:21LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [0:00-0:19]0:19
26  Revised (Part 2)1:04LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [0:19-1:22]1:03
275m3 Slicing The Hand1:25LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [1:22-2:43]1:21
285m4 I'll Take Those Shoes0:49LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [2:43-3:31]0:48
295m5 Show Us Your Hook1:38LLL 2-12 Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended) [3:31-end]1:37
30  Vocal Overlay - "Hook, Hook, Hook!"0:35UnreleasedOnly available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
31  Vocal Overlay - "Show/Give Us The Hook!"UnreleasedOnly available via DVD / Blu Ray rip
325m6/6m1 Hook's Entrance2:40LLL 1-12 Pirates!2:41
336m2 Draw Your Sword!2:14LLL 1-13 Hook Challenges Peter [0:00-2:09]2:09
346m3 Hoist The Kiddies3:03LLL 1-13 Hook Challenges Peter [2:09-5:09]3:00
356m4 Tink Strikes A Deal2:40LLL 1-13 Hook Challenges Peter [5:09-end]2:40
366m5/7m1 The Mermaids1:18LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [0:00-1:12]1:12
377m2 To Neverland2:03LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [1:12-3:08]1:56
387m3 Lost Boys Appear1:16LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [3:08-4:08] / OST 08 [4:08-end]1:16
397m4 Enter Rufio1:23LLL 1-14 From Mermaids To Lost Boys [4:08-end] / Unreleased (0:20)1:05Clean opening available on pre-Concorde 2-14 Boat Ride (Part I)
407m5 The Lost Boys Ballet3:31LLL 1-15 The Lost Boy Chase3:35
41  Drum Insert0:31UnreleasedOnly available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [0:56:25-0:56:56]
427m6/8m1 The Face Of Pan2:42LLL 2-02 You Are The Pan [1:21-end]2:40Clean opening available on Concorde I-18 You Are Peter
43  No Choir Mix2:42OST 14 You Are The Pan [1:21-end]2:38Clean opening available on Concorde I-18 You Are Peter
448m2 Don't Try To Stop Me.... Smee!2:16LLL 2-13 Hook’s Blues2:18
458m3 Smee Steals the Show (Stick With Me)1:45LLL 1-16 Smee’s Plan [0:00-1:41]1:41Clean ending available on OST 10 Smee's Plan
468m4 Believe Your Eyes1:44LLL 1-16 Smee’s Plan [1:41-end]1:42Clean opening available on pre-Concorde 1-37 Goodnight Neverland
478m4A Pick 'Em Up2:10UnreleasedOnly available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:06:05-1:08:15]
488m4A+B More Never Band1:18LLL 1-17 Pan Is Challenged1:20
498m6New Hook Lessons3:06LLL 1-18 Hook’s Lesson3:08
509m3 The Banquet3:21LLL 1-19 The Banquet [0:00-3:00] / pre-C 1-34 The Banquet [3:00-end]3:21OST/LLL track fades out early; Full ending on Concorde 1-23 or pre-Concorde 1-34
519m4 Cornucopia2:59LLL 1-20 The Never-Feast [0:00-2:57]2:57
52  9m4 Insert1:01Con 2-09 The Never-Feast (Second Unused Long Version) (1:09-2:08)0:59
539m5 Cutting The Coconut1:44LLL 1-20 The Never-Feast [2:57-end]1:43
5410m1 When You're Alone (Maggie's Lullaby)3:13LLL 2-03 When You’re Alone3:16
5510m2 Stop That Clock!!4:02LLL 1-21 Hook’s Madness4:01
5610m3/11m1A Take Me Out To The Ballgame0:59Unreleased"Only available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:26:23-1:28:50]"
57  Part 21:28Unreleased
5811m1 The Home Run2:49LLL 2-01 Remembering Childhood [0:00-2:44]2:44
5911m2/12m1 Follow That Shadow2:37LLL 1-22 Follow That Shadow2:38
6012m2 I Remember5:48LLL 2-01 Remembering Childhood [2:44-8:24]5:40
6112m3 The Flying Sequence2:43LLL 2-01 Remembering Childhood [8:24-end]2:39
6212m4 You Are The Pan1:25LLL 2-02 You Are The Pan [0:00-1:21]1:21Clean ending available on Concorde
6313m1 Tink Grows Up2:19LLL 2-04 Tink Grows Up2:20
6413m2 To War!! (with Alternate Insert 37-39)2:27LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [0:00-2:23]2:23
65  Insert Bar 37 (37-46)0:17UnreleasedOnly available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:47:54-1:48:11]
6613m3 Crossed Swords2:23LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [2:23-4:40]2:17
67  Insert (58-63)0:05UnreleasedOnly available via DVD / Blu Ray rip [1:50:20-1:50:25]
6813m4/14m1 Form Rank3:11LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [4:40-7:50]3:10
6914m2 Daddy Is Peter Pan?2:01LLL 2-05 The Ultimate War: To War [7:50-end]1:54Film Stem Rip
7014m3 The Death Of Rufio2:27LLL 2-06 The Ultimate War: The Death Of Rufio [0:00-2:13]2:13Film Stem Rip
7114m4 The Sword Fight2:37LLL 2-06 The Death Of Rufio [2:13-end] / 2-07 Sword Fight [0:00-2:15]2:25Film Stem Rip
7214m5/15m1 Winning By A Hair2:16LLL 2-07 The Ultimate War: Sword Fight [2:15-4:26] 2:11Film Stem Rip
7315m2 The End of Hook2:24LLL 2-07 Sword Fight [4:26-5:26] / Unreleased (0:20) / 2-08 Farewell Neverland [0:00-1:01]2:01Film Stem Rip
7415m3 My Lost Boys2:29LLL 2-08 Farewell Neverland [1:01-3:20]2:19Clean opening available on OST
7515m4 The Next Morning3:50LLL 2-08 Farewell Neverland [3:20-6:58]3:38
7615m5/16m1 Kensington Gardens4:19LLL 2-08 Farewell Neverland [6:58-end]4:16
77End Credit1:53LLL 2-09 End Credits [0:00-1:48]1:48Film Stem Rip
78Exit Music1:43LLL 2-15 Exit Music1:41


#2 Jay

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:19 PM

Since HTML tables come out really messy on the board, I made a nice spreadsheet that should make things easier to read. Here is that spreadsheet:

https://docs.google....S0E&output=html

Here is the complete cue list in an easier to read format


Hook Trailer
--Revised version
1m1 Piano Intro
1m2 Peter's Entrance
1m3 We Don't Wanna Grow Up
1m4 Yuppie Sounds
--Album Version
1m5 God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
2m1 Wendy's Entrance
2m2 The Bedroom
3m1 The Nursey Scene
3m2 Saying Goodnight
3m3 Hook Returns To Kensington
4m1 Hook Is Back
4m2 Forgotten How To Fly
4m3 Looney Wendy (Part 1)
--Looney Wendy Insert
4m3 Looney Wendy (Part 2)
4m4 The Arrival Of Tink
--Revised celeste section
4m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 1)
4m5/5m1 I Don't Believe In Fairies (Part 2)
Revised Ending (86-98)
5m2 Arrival At Neverland
--Revised (Part 1)
--Revised (Part 2)
5m3 Slicing The Hand
5m4 I'll Take Those Shoes
5m5 Show Us Your Hook
--Vocal Overlay - "Hook, Hook, Hook!"
--Vocal Overlay - "Show/Give Us The Hook!"
5m6/6m1 Hook's Entrance
6m2 Draw Your Sword!
6m3 Hoist The Kiddies
6m4 Tink Strikes A Deal
6m5/7m1 The Mermaids
7m2 To Neverland
7m3 Lost Boys Appear
7m4 Enter Rufio
7m5 The Lost Boys Ballet
--Drum Insert
7m6/8m1 The Face Of Pan
--No Choir Mix
8m2 Don't Try To Stop Me.... Smee!
8m3 Smee Steals the Show (Stick With Me)
8m4 Believe Your Eyes
8m4A Pick 'Em Up
8m4A+B More Never Band
8m6New Hook Lessons
9m3 The Banquet
9m4 Cornucopia
9m4 Insert
9m5 Cutting The Coconut
10m1 When You're Alone (Maggie's Lullaby)
10m2 Stop That Clock!!
10m3/11m1A Take Me Out To The Ballgame
--Part 2
11m1 The Home Run
11m2/12m1 Follow That Shadow
12m2 I Remember
12m3 The Flying Sequence
12m4 You Are The Pan
13m1 Tink Grows Up
13m2 To War!! (with Alternate Insert 37-39)
--Insert Bar 37 (37-46)
13m3 Crossed Swords
--Insert (58-63)
13m4/14m1 Form Rank
14m2 Daddy Is Peter Pan?
14m3 The Death Of Rufio
14m4 The Sword Fight
14m5/15m1 Winning By A Hair
15m2 The End of Hook
15m3 My Lost Boys
15m4 The Next Morning
15m5/16m1 Kensington Gardens
End Credit
Exit Music

I'll be adding more information to these posts as soon as I have the time to do so :)

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:22 PM

Wow! :blink:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:22 PM

Great job Jason! :)

The title needs some reformatting though.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:34 PM

wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:36 PM

wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

Ah you have not been following us long enough. Yeah it is Jason's numero uno score. He is the resident expert of it along with John Takis. :)

Ars superior est vita hominum.

 

"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

 

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


#7 Jay

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:36 PM

wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

Yep

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:37 PM

YESSSSSS.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:39 PM

Well it looks like we got a lion's share of this score with the LLL release. Some of those film versions with inserts and what not excluded.

Interesting. Enter Rufio is missing 20 seconds. And so is The End of Hook. Could they not be found for the release?

Do you happen to know what they contain Jason?

Ars superior est vita hominum.

 

"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

 

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:48 PM

Mmmm... I see there is a lot of information missing. Where is Crock Around The Clock? You could also add a * to cues that were written by William Ross. And you forgot to mention 5m4b Dueling Lost Boys, 11m3x Sir James And The Jolly Roger and 16m2 He's A Lost Boy (among other things)

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:51 PM

Thanks for that Jason. :) It's nice to finally have the original cue names for the score.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:51 PM

I have the feeling there's something wrong with the prologue. The right channel seems to be louder than the left channel.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:52 PM

Well it looks like we got a lion's share of this score with the LLL release. Some of those film versions with inserts and what not excluded.

Interesting. Enter Rufio is missing 20 seconds. And so is The End of Hook. Could they not be found for the release?

Do you happen to know what they contain Jason?


We've discussed the missing 20 seconds of The End Of Hook many times over. It's the portion that was dialed out in the film after the Croc falls on Hook, and the dust clears while the Lost Boys question "Is Hook gone?". The original music Williams wrote for that is a triumphant fanfare version of The Lost Boys Theme.

The missing end of Enter Rufio I suspect was only performed on the earlier takes, and a later take is what appeared on the Concord / pre-Concorde boots (and the LLL CD). Basically the missing end is just a slower reprise of the end of the cue as you know it, nothing major.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:54 PM

I have the feeling there's something wrong with the prologue. The right channel seems to be louder than the left channel.


Just normalize the right channel.... :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

So did anyone ever notice before that "The Arrivial Of Tink" on the pre-Concorde boot featured a complete different performance of the celeste passage than you know from the film/OST/Concorde/LLL CD?

It's at a much higher pitch and sounds more "other-wordly"/Fairy-like; It was a good idea but after hearing the result I think they were wise to re-do it and make it sound more "normal"


2 other things I think a lot of people don't realize:

"The Arrival Of Tink" does NOT overlap with "I Don't Believe In Fairies" (aka the Flight To Neverland) in the film - that combination was something crafted for the OST. And to make it happen, they removed the opening few notes of I Don't Believe In Fairies to make it sound better!

"The Banquet" fades out early on the OST and that fade was retained for the LLL CD; The original cue went on repeating for longer before ending (as heard in the film or boots)

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:01 PM


wow. is hook your all-time favorite score?

Yep


hehe do you hate this?

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:04 PM

My ears... They're bleeding!

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:07 PM

:eh:

Ars superior est vita hominum.

 

"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

 

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:10 PM

His ears must sound like goats...

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:14 PM

His ears must sound like goats...

It would be bleating not bleading if he was hearing goats.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:16 PM

and it would be Bleeding if he were talking about blood coming out of his ears sooo...

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:19 PM

I didn't realize until now that "The End Of Hook" on the LLL set is looped like in the film. You would have thought they would catch that and fix it.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:39 PM

I'll leave out any DVD/Blu Ray rips from my final assembly .

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:09 PM

I also noticed a "sloppy" transition in "The Ultimate War Part I: To War" 2:22-2:23.

looking at your list Jason it makes sense, "To War" ends and "Crossed Swords" does overlap with its last note I guess,
on the LaLa CD Crossed Swords starts a little to early, which may hardly be noticable, yes - but it seems like something that could have been easily avoided.

The Original Album does NOT have that sloppy edit - it plays just fine.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:12 PM

Yep. It sounds to me like all the tracks on the LLL CD containing multiple cues were combined from scratch from the original recording sessions cues (with the possible exception of We Don't Wanna Grow Up). It's most noticeable in the first half of The Ultimate War, but you can also tell Granny Wendy, Hook-Napped, etc are all different than the OST segues as well.

Form Rank also comes in too early.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:22 PM

Yep. It sounds to me like all the tracks on the LLL CD containing multiple cues were combined from scratch from the original recording sessions cues (with the possible exception of We Don't Wanna Grow Up). It's most noticeable in the first half of The Ultimate War, but you can also tell Granny Wendy, Hook-Napped, etc are all different than the OST segues as well.

Form Rank also comes in too early.


ahh yes - now that you mention it..!
strange - I mean this is a great set, but how can mistakes like this happen? I cannot imagine the one or those in charge wouldn't notice that?

Great work as usual with your cuelist and analysis, thank's :)
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:26 PM

I'll leave out any DVD/Blu Ray rips from my final assembly .


Its gonna be hard to do that, and have it sound natural (with all the noise removal in the boots and the lack of clean openings endings)

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

Although we have a great set in our hands with the LLL release I would love to know more about how it came about, the history of the whole production and what phases it went through.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

Thanks very much for your work on this!

Fascinating to see the cue titles, "Cornucopia" for one. :eh:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:26 PM

Thanks very much for your work on this!

Fascinating to see the cue titles, "Cornucopia" for one. :eh:

Johnny is good at using antediluvian words not only in interviews but also in cue titles. :lol:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:27 PM

I didn't realize until now that "The End Of Hook" on the LLL set is looped like in the film. You would have thought they would catch that and fix it.


is that a complain? ;)



Jason: about the unreleased ending of rufio's entrance, i was told it was meant to segue into lost boys chase, so it is somewhat important?

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:38 PM


Thanks very much for your work on this!

Fascinating to see the cue titles, "Cornucopia" for one. :eh:

Johnny is good at using antediluvian words not only in interviews but also in cue titles. :lol:


Definitely! Always good to have a decent dictionary handy when watching a JW interview! :)

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

Jason: about the unreleased ending of rufio's entrance, i was told it was meant to segue into lost boys chase, so it is somewhat important?


I have no idea if it was meant to segue to Lost Boys Ballet or not. I don't even know if the final cut of the film matches the footage that Williams wrote Enter Rufio to

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

It could be, but we don't have enough material to proof. It's clear the movie was re-edited quite a bit after the scoring sessions.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:30 PM


Jason: about the unreleased ending of rufio's entrance, i was told it was meant to segue into lost boys chase, so it is somewhat important?


I have no idea if it was meant to segue to Lost Boys Ballet or not. I don't even know if the final cut of the film matches the footage that Williams wrote Enter Rufio to


OMG!! LeBlanc doesn't know something about Hook score!

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:50 PM

I think there is a very strong possibility it was meant to segue to The Lost Boys Ballet. I'd love to see Williams' sketch, as that would confirm it

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:08 PM

I actually found something soothing about that remix. Clearly I've been listening to too much Black Swan.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:24 PM

I actually found something soothing about that remix.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:43 PM

Yeah, I love it too. That guy's got some other great ones, although Hook is probably my favorite.

Also, I love how he takes the awesome-but-brief Smee dance and makes it into something even better.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:17 AM

Original cue titles are always appreciated...thanks for posting, Jason! :D





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