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Poll: What will be the top summer film of 2012 (30 member(s) have cast votes)

Which film will win the 2012 summer boxoffice

  1. The Avengers, May 4 (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  2. Dark Shadows, May 11 (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  3. The Dictator, May 16 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Battleship, May 18 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Men in Black III, May 25 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Snow White and the Huntsman, June 1 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Prometheus, June 8 (3 votes [10.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  8. Rock of Ages, June 15 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter, June 22 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Brave, June 22 (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  11. G.I. Joe Retaliation, June 29 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  12. The Amazing Spiderman, July 3 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  13. Savages, July 6 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  14. Ted, July 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  15. Dark Knight Rises, July 20 (24 votes [80.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  16. Bourne Legacy, August 3 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  17. Total Recall, August 3 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  18. Madegascar 3, 6-8-12 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  19. Ice Age 4, 7-13-12 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:06 PM

I'll let you know after I've meditated on it.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Given the topic of conversation, perhaps 'Meditate on this, I will' was in order?
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

Is that from a prequel movie?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:22 PM



Attack of the Clones is a serviceable autopilot score. In fact it's better than Mission to Mars.


You took the words right out of my mouth.

Again, what about AotC is autopilot? It contains some of Williams' most inventive passages of the 2000s.


My only problem with AotC is that at times it can be tedious (like some of its filler material). Other than that, I thought this was one helluva score. I absolutely love the Across the Stars theme (which doesn't seem to get the love here that I thought it would - its personally one of my favourite love themes - ) and I think there was some great and very enjoyable action material and such.

I don't understand why its disliked so much here, but I think its a brilliant score.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:24 PM

Is that from a prequel movie?


Yes. Which in hindsight I can understand why you didn't quote it.
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:31 PM

I absolutely love the Across the Stars theme (which doesn't seem to get the love here that I thought it would - its personally one of my favourite love themes - ) and I think there was some great and very enjoyable action material and such.

I don't understand why its disliked so much here, but I think its a brilliant score.


Yes, the theme does deserve more love, being Williams' first love theme for the Star Wars saga and all.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:33 PM

I used to love that theme but I got myself tired of it.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:09 PM


I absolutely love the Across the Stars theme (which doesn't seem to get the love here that I thought it would - its personally one of my favourite love themes - ) and I think there was some great and very enjoyable action material and such.

I don't understand why its disliked so much here, but I think its a brilliant score.


Yes, the theme does deserve more love, being Williams' first love theme for the Star Wars saga and all.


Yeah, I mean -- wait, what?
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:27 PM

Seriously, if by some strange accident (or move by Lucasfilm) the entire score for Attack Of The Clones were to be wiped off the face of the earth, never to be heard again in any shape or form, save for "Across The Stars", "The Arena" and "Shmi's Funeral" ... I would have to be the one person who didn't give a damn.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:28 PM


Attack of the Clones is a serviceable autopilot score. In fact it's better than Mission to Mars.


You took the words right out of my mouth.

Williams better than Morricone? You're joking!

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:34 PM

He's miles better.
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

Well It is nice to bash AotC, back to the topic we'll have Madegascar 3, Ice Age what 9? and MIB 3. All musical master pieces... Geez!

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 04:36 AM



Attack of the Clones is a serviceable autopilot score. In fact it's better than Mission to Mars.


You took the words right out of my mouth.

Williams better than Morricone? You're joking!


Why didn't anyone think of this sooner?! To get Koray back, just bash Morricone!
(I like Morricone; I don't rank artists; physical ownership of their albums is good enough)

Hey, Koray. How ya been?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:14 AM

I will not be surprised if Hunger Games passes 450 million perhaps even 500 million. DKR will not have the death of a lead actor to give it the extra umph the DK had.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:59 AM

Hey, Koray. How ya been?

As well as I can be in my situation, I suppose, but for the sake of small internet talk, just fine.

Me in 9 years:

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:25 PM

I thought it might be time to bring this thread back because I'm wondering if the Avengers, which is clearly a hit beyond belief and got zero votes, will be the #1 film this summer. I just can't see the bat acheiving this same kind of B.O. response,

Of course it may happen, lightning strikes twice in the same summer.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:35 PM

I think TDKR will surpass the Avengers at the box office.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:36 PM

I was just gonna bump the thread for teh same reason. I think Bats will have a very, very tough time making as much money as The Avengers will at this point. The film opens in 5 weeks and there's been almost no hype. I saw Avengers tv spots and tie-ins more a long time leading up to its release, and it also had a huge buzz. Bats has got nothing so far apart from some trailers.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:43 PM

I think Marvels balls at finally going with a shared universe is paying off at the box office.

Now people will go see new solo films and a second Avengers will have insane buzz.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:21 PM

I'd actually like to see The Avengers fight off Batman and keep its top spot this summer, if only to cause an upset.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:41 PM

TDKR isn't in 3D, is it? Batman's fucked!

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:51 AM

I was just gonna bump the thread for teh same reason. I think Bats will have a very, very tough time making as much money as The Avengers will at this point. The film opens in 5 weeks and there's been almost no hype. I saw Avengers tv spots and tie-ins more a long time leading up to its release, and it also had a huge buzz. Bats has got nothing so far apart from some trailers.


TDKR comes out in two months. The marketing blitz will likely begin the first of June.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:31 AM

Avengers is at 389 on day 12. On day 12, Avatar only had 250.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:52 AM

The Dark Knight Rises will have a big opening weekend but it's not gonna have lasting power, I think.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:13 AM

Avengers is at 389 on day 12. On day 12, Avatar only had 250.

I'm betting that Avatar will end up with the longer legs.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:57 AM

Have they gone nuts for The Avengers in the Orient?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:09 PM

I can't believe no one voted for The Avengers in the poll!

Funny anyone voted for Prometheus. That film was never going to gross $200 million

Does everyone still think The Dark Knight Rises will win the summer, even after The Avengers took in $613million (and counting) domestic?

For the record here are the 8 summer films that have crossed $100million so far



1 Marvel's The Avengers $613,548,000 4-May
2 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted $203,732,000 8-Jun
3 The Amazing Spider-Man $200,900,000 3-Jul
4 Brave $195,596,000 22-Jun
5 MIB 3 $174,800,000 25-May
6 Ted $158,993,000 29-Jun
7 Snow White and the Huntsman $151,607,000 1-Jun
8 Prometheus $124,269,000 8-Jun



Biggest surprise is Ted, I think. With that box office success, Seth MacFarlane will be able to make whatever films he wants for the next long while.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:16 PM

I didn't see The Avengers because I've been saving all my money for TDKR. I haven't been able to afford anything else in this dreadful economy.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

Jason, where are you getting your numbers? I looked at Boxofficmojo this morning and those numbers don't match yours.

Oh OK I see what you did, you added the weekend gross to the totals, but they were already figured in.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:40 PM

Woops, I didn't realize this weekend's estimates were already added into their Yearly chart. I've corrected my post.

What are your thoughts on this summer's box office, thread starter?
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:42 PM

Why are you guys not taking international box office earnings into consideration?

Globally The Avengers has pulled in $1,457,648,000

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:51 PM

Jason, I would say that you and I are both surprised that the Avengers got no votes and is clearly the top boxoffice winner. I do not see the Dark Knight Rises beating it. I really don't. I do expect the DKR to open huge.

I know I included films I knew did not have chance to win, but I knew had a chance to win a week or two. I'm glad you convinced me to add Madegascar and Ice Age. They did each win their weekend openings.

I was not surprised by Ted, but I think that Prometheus' failure is because it's a mediocre film. If it had been a better film we'd have seen better numbers by it.

There will be 7 films from this spring and summer to break 200 mil. I don't know if that is a record but it's a big number for sure. The 5 films that have hit 200 mil. so far are Hunger Games, Lorax, the Avengers, Madegascar 3, and Spiderman. Brave will hit 200 million next weekend, and so will TDR give or take a day or two. You know that there will be 2 or 3 films hit the 200 million mark in the fall, Breaking Dawn pt 2, The Hobbit pt 1, and probably Skyfall.

Stefan, it's my thread, I've been doing it for years, I've always based it on US boxoffice takes, and these are essentially Hollywood films. I've always gone with US openings. It's not quite the same with international openings. They might be scattered all over the place.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

I don't think will TDKR will outgross The Avengers, but it might actually beat in the number of tickets sold. 3D makes a big difference
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:04 PM

Jason, I would say that you and I are both surprised that the Avengers got no votes and is clearly the top boxoffice winner. I do not see the Dark Knight Rises beating it. I really don't. I do expect the DKR to open huge.


I don't see TDKR beating it either, $600+ is just insane. I don't think anyone predicted before the summer started that The Avengers would make that much. TDKR is longer, darker, and seen as a film that is a conclusion to a saga that you need to have seen the first 2 films to get, while The Avengers was marketed as a film for everyone to see.


I think that Prometheus' failure is because it's a mediocre film. If it had been a better film we'd have seen better numbers by it.


I agree!

You know that there will be 2 or 3 films hit the 200 million mark in the fall, Breaking Dawn pt 2, The Hobbit pt 1, and probably Skyfall.


I don't see Skyfall crossing $200 million. Casino Royale made $167 and Quantum of Solace made $168, but ALL of Daniel Craig's other movies have bombed/ underperformed, and this one is coming out 4 years since the last one (though it feels like longer). I can see it stalling after crossing $100, especially with all the November/December competition this year.

If Skyfall is a really good movie and they get the next one out in 2-3 years from now, I think THAT one could be a big success. Right now it seems like the world is more excited about comic book movies than spy ones. I can't see Bourne 4 doing hardly anything either.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:07 PM

Skyfall will bring in similar numbers. The performance of Craig's other films have no bearing on this, since this is a Bond film. It's a completely separate entity.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:09 PM

TDKR is longer, darker, and seen as a film that is a conclusion to a saga that you need to have seen the first 2 films to get



Um, and so who hasn't seen the first two?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:09 PM

Skyfall will bring in similar numbers. The performance of Craig's other films have no bearing on this, since this is a Bond film. It's a completely separate entity.


I too think the numbers will be very similar to the first two entries. I actually originally put $150mil in my post before editing it to $100

TDKR is longer, darker, and seen as a film that is a conclusion to a saga that you need to have seen the first 2 films to get



Um, and so who hasn't seen the first two?


I'm sure there was PLENTY of 7-15 year olds who went out and saw The Avengers this summer that have no interest in seeing The Dark Knight Rises.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:10 PM

TDKR is longer, darker, and seen as a film that is a conclusion to a saga that you need to have seen the first 2 films to get



Um, and so who hasn't seen the first two?


If you compare the box office earnings between BB and TDK, a lot more people say TDK then BB.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:16 PM

Oh don't get me wrong, The Dark Knight Rises will EASILY make more money at the box office than The Dark Knight did. It will EASILY be one of the top 2 movies of the summer by a wide margin, it's going to make $500+. Will it pass The Avengers $613 or not is the only question.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:24 PM

I think it will. I'm just not a betting man.

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