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Poll: CE3K vs. Superman vs Hook (56 member(s) have cast votes)

Which SCORE is your favorite?

  1. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) (20 votes [35.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

  2. Superman (1978) (17 votes [30.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.36%

  3. Hook (1991) (19 votes [33.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.93%

Which MOVIE is your favorite?

  1. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) (25 votes [44.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.64%

  2. Superman (1978) (21 votes [37.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  3. Hook (1991) (10 votes [17.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.86%

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#1 Josh500

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:07 PM

It just came to me that I have the hardest time deciding which score/movie out of these I like the most... Well? What do you think?

Okay, got it:

Score: Hook
Movie: CE3K

At least for now.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:10 PM

Let me help you:
Score: Hook
Movie: Superman

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:11 PM

Score: Superman
Movie: Hook (being as I'm a child of the 90's and seeing Hook many times on VHS)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:12 PM

Score: Close Encounters, no doubts there.

Film: Superman. It just has too much charm that none of the two Spielberg movies can match.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:15 PM

Let me help you:
Score: Hook
Movie: Superman


No, let me help you!

Score: Hook
Movie: CE3K

Score: Close Encounters, no doubts there.

Film: Superman. It just has too much charm that none of the two Spielberg movies can match.

Karol


:lol:

I don't think there will be clear winners here...

Everybody seems to think, that movie, duh! But everybody picks a different movie.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:23 PM

In order:

Film:

1: Superman
2: Hook
3: Close Encounters

Score:
1: Superman
2: Close Encounters
3: Hook

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

Hook, ldo
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:25 PM

Man, Superman the movie is really popular, isn't it?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:26 PM

Its Williams' Magnum Opus, IMBO.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:27 PM

Its Williams' Magnum Opus, IMBO.


Yes, it is, definitely.

If you are talking about HOOK, of course. :P

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:29 PM

Sorry, Hook is just leftovers from Home Alone, Temple of Doom/Last Crusade, and Superman.

plus, Disco FTW.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:30 PM


Let me help you:
Score: Hook
Movie: Superman


No, let me help you!

Score: Hook
Movie: CE3K


Well, it wasn't me who said he had a hard time deciding :)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:34 PM

Sorry, Hook is just leftovers from Home Alone, Temple of Doom/Last Crusade, and Superman.

plus, Disco FTW.


Stop embarrassing yourself!

You can argue in favor of Superman without bashing Hook, you know. Unless, you really feel that way about Hook...

Well, it wasn't me who said he had a hard time deciding :)


I do, because obviously they are all 3 masterpieces!

But now I've made up my mind. :)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:37 PM


Sorry, Hook is just leftovers from Home Alone, Temple of Doom/Last Crusade, and Superman.

plus, Disco FTW.

You can argue in favor of Superman without bashing Hook, you know. Unless, you really feel that way about Hook...


DOn't believe me?

listen to Ultimate War 3, the fanfare when Hook says: "What would the world be like.." and tell me that doesnt sound like a shortened/alternate version of when kevin goes down the stairs on the sled!

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:59 PM

Score : Hook


Movie : Hook

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:15 PM

Easy. CE3K > Hook > Superman.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

Music: little bit tougher but nothing can beat CE3K!!

Movie: Easy one, Superman and Hook are for kiddies.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

Easy. CE3K > Hook > Superman.


Pretty much, on both counts. It's not even close, IMHO
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:57 PM

Close Encounters and Close Encounters.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:31 PM

Score: Hook
Movie: CE3K
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:44 PM

Both votes for Close Encounters.

I wish I could say it's close. But it isn't. It's miles ahead of Superman. And Hook finishes last.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:12 AM

Superman on both counts. Love every note of that score.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:20 AM

Score: Hook (you cannot go wrong with any of them though; we're talking Williams' top-tier stuff here)

Movie: Close Encounters
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:29 AM

Superman and Close Encounters are perfection, John Williams at his greatest. But I voted for Hook because it has a childlike innocence and magic that really connects to me more than the other two scores. But it's a little like picking a favorite child....you love them all....well, except for Jimmy.....get back in the closet, Jimmy!!!! Ahem...where was I.....right. Hook is magical.

For film.....I want to watch them all back to back to decide, but Superman may be the one.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:50 AM

I don't know...this is a real tough poll.. Close Encounters is a great score, but it doesn't really come to the quality of Hook and Superman for me. And if I had to choose, I guess I'd put Superman on top, followed by Hook and then CE3K. All of them being great scores. Superman is just up the extra mile of JW awesomeness.

As for the films, CE3K is easily miles ahead of the other two...

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:58 AM

Never really been a fan of Close Encounter as a film or as a score
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 02:38 AM

Score: Hook
Movie: Superman
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:46 AM

Superman x2

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:45 AM

I am glad that the majority seems to feel the same way as I do! :lol:

Movie: CE3K
Score: Hook

Score: Hook (you cannot go wrong with any of them though; we're talking Williams' top-tier stuff here)

Movie: Close Encounters


But yeah, I agree, you cannot go wrong with any of Williams's stuff here! :thumbup:

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:33 AM

It's obvious: "CE3K" on both counts. Er...why are we having this conversation?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:00 PM

I too voted for the winner.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:04 PM

Both my votes go to Superman.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:43 PM

It's obvious: "CE3K" on both counts. Er...why are we having this conversation?



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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:58 PM

Superman on both. If this were "best" I'd pick CE3K over Superman for movie. Hook is last in both categories.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:00 PM

Hook score is nice, but not THIS nice. Both Superman and CEOTTK are legends (films and scores)!

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:57 AM

Wow. :blink:

CE3K: 16 votes
Superman: 14 votes
Hook: 15 votes

What a neck on neck race!

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 05:53 PM

What a neck on neck race!


The correct euphemism is "neck and neck." Said quickly, itis "neck'n'neck," which could indicate your confusion.

Neck on neck is something I do in the bedroom.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:45 AM

It's just one of those classic JWFan polls...either way, you win.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:51 AM


What a neck on neck race!


The correct euphemism is "neck and neck." Said quickly, itis "neck'n'neck," which could indicate your confusion.


Thanks, I know! That happens when you type too fast, while at work...

It's just one of those classic JWFan polls...either way, you win.


Seems like, after 47 people have cast their votes, CE3K is the winner on both counts!

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:11 AM

Am I the only one who hasn't participated in this poll due to the fact I can't make sense of Hook's inclusion in it?




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