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#1 Michael

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:32 PM

I was surprised to find out that there wasn't an official thread for this musical genius that (in my opinion) is just as good as Williams, if not slightly better...

What are your opinions on this awesome composer and what are your favorite pieces? Personally, I'd like to start with something practically unknown from him. Not his best of course, but a truly funny piece!


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:39 PM

Probably not the best cue to introduce people to that score.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:11 AM

Yeah, I was wondering why there was no thread for the great Italian maestro...

Now my favorite EM score (one of the top 5) is The Mission suite:


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:27 AM

Morricone is - by far - my favorite film composer after John Williams.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:29 AM

Yeah, even Hans Z couldn't get enough of EM.

If you put John Williams in a dryer, you get Jerry Goldsmith! You get the downside version!


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:37 AM

Morricone is - by far - my favorite film composer, John Williams comes after.


Fixed :biglaugh:

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:38 AM

Yeah, I was wondering why there was no thread for the great Italian maestro...

Now my favorite EM score (one of the top 5) is The Mission suite:




This is an absolutely gorgeous score and also my favourite of Morricone's fantastic career. Although as much as I love the guy, I must say, Williams and a few other composers stand above in my favourites.

And to the mention of Zimmer in this thread, the man LOVES his Morricone stuff. He pays homage to him with ever chance he gets.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:05 AM

Morricone is someone that sometimes I love and sometimes rubs me the wrong way, even in the same score.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:10 AM

Morricone is someone that sometimes I love and sometimes rubs me the wrong way, even in the same score.


Ya, I can agree with this statement.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:59 AM

Not that I don't like his spagetti western stuff and other favourites (The Mission, Untouchables ...), but for me, the ultimate Morricone masterpiece is The Thing. bowdown


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:25 AM

Ennio who?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:50 AM

Not that I don't like his spagetti western stuff and other favourites (The Mission, Untouchables ...), but for me, the ultimate Morricone masterpiece is The Thing. bowdown


Mine, too, Mag! Kudos to you for mentioning it.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:12 AM

:thumbup:

Still haven't learned to change that avatar of yours ;) :D


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:19 AM

All will be revealed...soon.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:26 AM


Morricone is someone that sometimes I love and sometimes rubs me the wrong way, even in the same score.


Ya, I can agree with this statement.


Me too. He's quite on/off to me. I absolutely LOATHE his dissonant stuff, but I downright ADORE his more melodic stuff. When he's on, he's really on (and has few equals in film music history).

I saw him live in Royal Albert Hall in 2009. That was a great experience.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:36 AM

Morricone > Danny Elfman, James Newton Howard, Desplat, Zimmer, Powell, Arnold, Don Davis, Gregson-Williams.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:38 AM

Morricone > Danny Elfman, James Newton Howard, Desplat, Zimmer, Powell, Arnold, Don Davis, Gregson-Williams.


Arrgh. Tis' as you say.

If you put John Williams in a dryer, you get Jerry Goldsmith! You get the downside version!


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:51 PM

Morricone > Danny Elfman, James Newton Howard, Desplat, Zimmer, Powell, Arnold, Don Davis, Gregson-Williams.

I think you meant to put an ellipses instead of a period, because y'know, he's the best ;)

The thing about Morricone, is that when he tackles beauty man, he fucking nails it. The music oozes gorgeousness. Whenever Williams does it, there's always a melancholy undertone to it, which Morricone can do as well and often in the same score. But Williams never has and never will compose something as beautiful as Jill's theme.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

Aching is Morricone's specialty. Williams is too sweeping and melodramatic to really hit the spot in that regard. The beauty of Morricone's music is the aesthetic itself - the gorgeous melody is merely the incidental heavenly accompaniment.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:27 PM

But Williams never has and never will compose something as beautiful as Jill's theme.

That is just outrageous to say.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:43 PM

Well I've said it.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:48 PM

It's still outrageous.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:49 PM

For you maybe, for me Morricone is just that good. It's kinda like the same thing with Spielberg. Leone kicks his ass any day of the week.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:51 PM

I didn't mean the praise to Morricone, I meant the shot at Williams.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:55 PM

I'll say again, Morricone is just that good. Williams still sits in my #2 spot.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:59 PM

I love Morricone, but Williams' range and repertoire slaps him into touch when it boils down to it. There's no contest.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:00 PM

No you don't get me. You're not praising Morricone, you're saying JW can't do something he can do perfectly. In fact, this little detail should warrant its own JW thread.

Morricone praise is all fine by me. He tends to get artificial when he writes something small and lyrical, and a lot of his development of themes I find underwhelming, but many times he's fun to listen to. I adore his most adventurous western music. He's no Herrmann though.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:02 PM

Williams has quite a bit of range and reputable films under his belt, but when Morricone composes Once Upon A Time In The West alongside 20-something other scores in the same year, it just makes it even better. Some of which are brilliant as well.

Morricone goes from comedy, to period piece, to drama, to romance, to political thriller, to western, to gangster crime, to anything else in between, seamlessly.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:04 PM

Too seamlessly, I'd say. To the point of reusing material, I'd say.

The new material tends to be wonderful.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:07 PM

I'm not completely familiar with the man's 600+ scores, but of the ones I am familiar, he rarely lifts. Horner is a worse offender, with a fraction of the amount of scores.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:11 PM

Yeah Horner reuses too many ideas for the amount of work he does.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:16 PM

I personally think he's overrated.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:44 PM

I personally think he's overrated.


???? Ay yay yay. Based on who's rating system? Even from just a harmonic standpoint, the guy is brilliant. Melodically there are few that are at his level in film music history and his unique sound separates him from so many others. My favorite quality of his music, by far, is how quickly and beautifully it manages to depict the interior psyche of the character. Williams is much more overt for me in this way, save Schindler's List, Stepmom, Sleepers and a few others.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:47 PM

I don't personally understand the praise of the quantity. I prefer the quality.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 12:59 AM

Exactly, he has a massive amount of quality scores.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 01:24 AM

I wonder if he has a brand new score out yet.

If you put John Williams in a dryer, you get Jerry Goldsmith! You get the downside version!


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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:53 PM

My favorite Morricone concert work:


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:16 PM

Two days ago Ennio Morricone was forced to stop a concert at the Mandela Forum in Florence due to a "low blood sugar". Morricone was caught by a slight illness while directing the Roma Sinfonietta Orchestra and the Lyrical Symphonic Chorus of Verona.
After half an hour he recovered, went back on the podium and ended the concert by giving three encores!

The Maestro is a rock!

Sources (with copyrighted photos of the big fear during the concert):
http://www.lanazione.it/cronaca/2012/11/04/797262-morricone-malore-concerto.shtml
http://www.ilmessaggero.it/primopiano/cronaca/morricone_malore/notizie/229538.shtml


http://filmscoremont...mID=1&archive=0
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:18 PM

I saw that. Would have been worried but as described he just needed to eat something.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 04:30 AM

Is this real?


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