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#1 Trent Bennett

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:28 PM

Jason I wasn't sure where to put this so if you want to combine this with another thread, feel free to.

Not sure if anyone has seen this thread on FSM.

http://filmscoremont...mID=1&archive=0

Basically this is what Giacchino-Fan stated...

I asked Mr. McCarthy himself about the expansion. He said:
"they're putting the expanded version together now; probably in a month or two".

If he means that it'll be ready and for sale in just a month or two from now, well, paint me red and shove a carrot up my nose; I'm excited!


If this is true then I to am excited! Generations is an under-rated gem like Star Trek IV. The OST is good on it's own but A LOT of great music was left off. These are the cues that come to mind that I would love to hear outside of the film...


Distress Call (From Enterprise-B portion)
78 Years Later
Arrival At Amergosa
Destruction Of Amergosa
"That's Where He's Going" (When Data and Picard figure out where Soran is heading)
Prisoner Exchange (Film version opening)
Evacuation (when everyone is being evacuated to the saucer section)
The insert between "Out Of Control" and "The Crash".
Destruction Of The Veridian Star
Replay (The music right after "Two Captain's", when Picard and Kirk leave the Nexus together)

I would imagine GNP being the one to release this as they did with First Contact.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:45 PM

Fantastic news indeed!!
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:51 PM

Bring it!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:45 PM

Between this, the reissue of Star Trek V by Intrada, and what looks like Star Trek TMP from LLLR, this is already turning into a delightfully expensive year for Star Trek music fans. :)

I might have to give Generations a spin real soon. Haven't played it in quite a while.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:21 PM

Between this, the reissue of Star Trek V by Intrada, and what looks like Star Trek TMP from LLLR, this is already turning into a delightfully expensive year for Star Trek music fans. :)


Agreed. Star Trek TMP is definitely certain and it's coming June 5th per their post on Facebook.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:01 PM

Was there any doubt, after all the talk about "all the scores" getting the restoration treatment, that we'd be getting it sooner rather than later?
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:03 PM

Maybe Varese could do a Nemesis re-release?

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:03 PM

Not really, marian but it's nice to see it confirmed

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:07 PM

Maybe Varese could do a Nemesis re-release?

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I'm not holding my breath.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:34 PM

I have no interest in this, one of the bottom dwellers among Star Trek movie scores, though it rates higher than Giacchino's mediocrity.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:38 PM

I'm sure you also rate it higher then Hook and TLC, so that shows how much you know.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:48 PM

I have no interest in this, one of the bottom dwellers among Star Trek movie scores, though it rates higher than Giacchino's mediocrity.


:rolleyes:

You say the same thing about Attack Of The Clones. Even though you've probably never heard anyone's expanded edit with the new material from The Old Republic.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:52 PM

The OST of AOTC is long enough to form a valid opinion. And Joe has seen the film.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:54 PM

I think it's quite a good CD. Not amazing, inspiring or life changing, but really enjoyable.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:14 PM

it's a perfectly okay score, nothing great. it works within the film but it really doesn't do anything for me outside it.

And Vosk, sorry nothing in anyone's expanded edit would ever convince me AOTC is a good score. It's probably a better score than the movie itself but that isn't praise either.

Stefan I don't think Generations is better than TLC, but I would rather listen to Generations than Hook. I really don't want to listen to Hook.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

Generations is better then Hook.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:19 PM

I don't know about that. What I do know is that they're both from a kick ass era in my childhood.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:14 AM

Generations is better then Hook.


I have to agree with that.


Vosk, sorry nothing in anyone's expanded edit would ever convince me AOTC is a good score. It's probably a better score than the movie itself but that isn't praise either.


Typical statement from you. :rolleyes:

Also my real name is Trent, please start calling me that instead of "Vosk".
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:54 AM

Was'nt the Name Vosk from AOTC? or was it from ROTS?

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:22 AM

Was'nt the Name Vosk from AOTC? or was it from ROTS?


Neither...it was actually a villain from Star Trek Enterprise.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:39 AM


Generations is better then Hook.


I have to agree with that.


Vosk, sorry nothing in anyone's expanded edit would ever convince me AOTC is a good score. It's probably a better score than the movie itself but that isn't praise either.


Typical statement from you. :rolleyes:

Also my real name is Trent, please start calling me that instead of "Vosk".

you'll always be Vosk to me. ;)

I can't help that you worship a score like AOTC, The best praise I can give it is it's the the 6th best "Star Wars score. But consider that Revenge of the Sith is also a poor score except for the massive amount music from Star Wars being 6th isn't high praise.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:40 AM

AOTCis better than ESB.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:48 AM

I don't care how good or bad it is. I just want to have another Trek expanded score.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:53 AM

Excellent news.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:56 AM

AOTCis better than ESB.


Wrong.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:52 AM


AOTCis better than ESB.


Wrong.

agreed.

I would love an official Star trek the Motion Picture 3 or 4 cd set.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:03 AM

Jason I wasn't sure where to put this so if you want to combine this with another thread, feel free to.


You put it in the exact right place, and thanks so much for including a link to the FSM thread :)
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:05 PM


Maybe Varese could do a Nemesis re-release?

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I'm not holding my breath.


Nov 2012 would be the 10th anniv of Nemesis. It would make sense for Varese to release a dx ed. But yeah I know.

Just thinking outload...... :whistle:
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:10 PM


AOTCis better than ESB.


Wrong.


Good thing I was joking.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:25 PM

Hard to tell these days when someone doesn't use emoticons.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

I've always loved the theme in Generations. This one is more an exciting release to me that ST: IV or VI.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:54 PM

Never heard this score. Not a single note. But I will probably buy it anyway, for completeness' sake.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:59 PM

completeness' sake is an important thing!

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:59 PM

Well, this and spines! ;)

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:42 PM

It's a good score. Kinda reminds me a bit of Rosenman, actually.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:52 PM

It's a good score. Kinda reminds me a bit of Rosenman, actually.


Never really thought of it that way. Interesting perspective.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:02 AM

I listened to it this morning on my commute (driving, I like to pick a CD when I drive to and from work).

This score is actually a lot better than many paint it.

I'm enjoying it quite a lot, and I'm also remembering some of the cues not on the CD from the film, such as the start of the Amargosa star collapsing (great ostinato in the strings as the tension builds here), and the Enterprise's narrow escape from the Amargosa Observatory, along with the Duras Sisters' appearance.

The fact that the score is in the same sonic spere as the TNG series is apt, as the movie is basically translating TNG to a larger canvas.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 02:46 PM

Sweet, I love Generations.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:49 PM


It's a good score. Kinda reminds me a bit of Rosenman, actually.


Never really thought of it that way. Interesting perspective.

Like Rosenman's? How?

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:48 PM

Hard to say. And it's been a while since I last listened to it. It's certainly not "like" Rosenman's music for the most part, and not on the same level. But there's something in how the action music builds that always seemed to have a Rosenmanish vibe to me.
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