No Joe. this place will literally collapse.
You remember First Contact, when the Borg Queen got get flesh burned of, all the drones stopped working?
La-La Land Records' Star Trek The Motion Picture 3CD set coming June 5th
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:31 PM
forgive me Master, I meant no disrespect.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:32 PM
You will make an excellent drone!
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:20 PM
Could this be the first 10,000 copy score to sell out? I don't think Back To The Future and Black Sunday got close. Certainly not First Contact.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:24 PM
It definitely has the best chance to! Quite an achievement, especially considering the $35 price tag.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:28 PM
Cool. I still need to get this. It's certainly the must-own Goldsmith score.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:57 PM
Got my set and like everyone else, I'm surprised by the quality.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:48 AM
This isn't like you, km, getting all anxious about a score that John Williams didn't write. Are you feeling ok?
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:01 AM
well even KM knows that there are only a handful of JW scores that are a match for this score.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:26 AM
A big strong handful...
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:05 AM
OMG what nightmares. Such a terrible film, and it never ends.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:17 AM
No, the first one was a classic. I'd rather watch it right now than E.T.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:41 AM
This new release sounds great. Indysolo's soundediting is superb!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:48 AM
OMG what nightmares. Such a terrible film, and it never ends.
When I was young I read the book and later found the film extremely disappointing and lacking in atmosphere. To me it didn't have that particular personality the book had. They'd turned the story boring. How's that possible? And I found it visually inferior to my own imaginings when I read the book.
How someone can prefer that to the gorgeous achievement that is E.T. is beyond me! With that music, that photography, that direction, these actors, that even better and tear inducing and inspiring story, that painting of childhood in 115 minutes! Please!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:51 AM
Listening to The Enterprise just brought tears in my eyes!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:37 AM
Listening to the '79 film takes after having gotten used to the '99 CD... yeah, I still like the alternate takes better (certainly for the Overture, with that piano passage... my god!).
That's my single complaint about this set, I wish they'd remixed the album program from the multitrack. You can hear the difference between the two... oh well. The rest of it's spectacular, LLL and all involved should be proud.
That's my single complaint about this set, I wish they'd remixed the album program from the multitrack. You can hear the difference between the two... oh well. The rest of it's spectacular, LLL and all involved should be proud.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:46 PM
This new release sounds great. Indysolo's soundediting is superb!
It was edited by Mike Matessino, not Neil. Neil was just a production assistant on this one.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:01 PM
How someone can prefer that to the gorgeous achievement that is E.T. is beyond me! With that music, that photography, that direction, these actors, that even better and tear inducing and inspiring story, that painting of childhood in 115 minutes! Please!
I said RIGHT NOW. Return to the conversation when you can start thinking fourth dimensionally k thanks bye.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:36 PM
really Morlock?No, the first one was a classic. I'd rather watch it right now than E.T.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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I'd rather be a Morlock than die an Eloi.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:43 PM
I'm sorry my reference didn't work with you. Never mind.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Oh, I remember he was a poster here, but nothing else about him. He is forgettable and largely interchangeable with so many others.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:04 PM
I wonder what I will have to pay in customs... I also ordered Galaxy Quest, so they'll definitely ask for money...
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:48 PM
How someone can prefer that to the gorgeous achievement that is E.T. is beyond me! With that music, that photography, that direction, these actors, that even better and tear inducing and inspiring story, that painting of childhood in 115 minutes! Please!
I said RIGHT NOW. Return to the conversation when you can start thinking fourth dimensionally k thanks bye.
Oh, you've enlightened me!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:17 PM
Mine arrived today. My God it sounds absolutely glorious! So many details and nuances that I've never heard before. Goldsmith's finest work has been given new life. La-La Land have really knocked this one out of the park! 
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Does this set have the Inside Star Trek conversation disc? I lost mine and was hoping for a remastered upgrade!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:40 PM
Does this set have the Inside Star Trek conversation disc? I lost mine and was hoping for a remastered upgrade!
You're repeating yourself
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Oh I'm just gettin' started.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:19 AM
I still recommend keeping the End Credits from the Sony Anniversary release though.
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I wouldn't dream of getting rid of the Sony Anniversary set. It cost about $30 brand new, and it's less than $20 now new. It's worth, what, $5 used?
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Well, I'm certainly keeping the 20th Anniversary set.
- It was signed by Jerry Goldsmith
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In terms of the score itself, there's no reason to keep it, but the above factors play into things.
- It was signed by Jerry Goldsmith
- Inside Star Trek
In terms of the score itself, there's no reason to keep it, but the above factors play into things.
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:03 PM
Yup. Wouldn't dream of selling my signed copy.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:15 PM
I haven't heard enough support to purchase this release.
Is this good album if I'm no trekkie?
Should this one be the first Jerry Goldsmith album for me?
Is there any decent music besides the brilliant main theme?
How is this music doing comparing to Williams' best scores?
Many questions. Many mysteries.
Is this good album if I'm no trekkie?
Should this one be the first Jerry Goldsmith album for me?
Is there any decent music besides the brilliant main theme?
How is this music doing comparing to Williams' best scores?
Many questions. Many mysteries.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:32 PM
Wow, a Goldsmith/Star Trek TMP virgin?!
You should go on youtube and listen to "The Enterprise" and "Ilia's Theme" to get an idea of some other high points. But be warned, the latter half of the score is a bit more avant guarde. Check out "The Cloud" or "Vejur Flyover" to get an idea for that. Oh, and don't forget to sample the wonderful "Klingon Battle".
Quite honestly, I can't get into "The Cloud" and even parts of "Vejur Flyover", yet I find some of the other V'Ger oriented material more compelling, such as Force Field. The Starfleet themed material from Act 1 is the clear winner for those of us with a bias towards the more romantic classical sound.
Anyone else here a little bored by stuff like "The Cloud"?
You should go on youtube and listen to "The Enterprise" and "Ilia's Theme" to get an idea of some other high points. But be warned, the latter half of the score is a bit more avant guarde. Check out "The Cloud" or "Vejur Flyover" to get an idea for that. Oh, and don't forget to sample the wonderful "Klingon Battle".
Quite honestly, I can't get into "The Cloud" and even parts of "Vejur Flyover", yet I find some of the other V'Ger oriented material more compelling, such as Force Field. The Starfleet themed material from Act 1 is the clear winner for those of us with a bias towards the more romantic classical sound.
Anyone else here a little bored by stuff like "The Cloud"?
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:50 PM
Is this good album if I'm no trekkie?
Yes! (And why shouldn't it be... it's about the music, after all)
Should this one be the first Jerry Goldsmith album for me?
No. You should have tons already. But it's certainly a great place to start now.
Is there any decent music besides the brilliant main theme?
Absolutely.
How is this music doing comparing to Williams' best scores?
Goldsmith's best scores are in the same league as Williams' best. This is one of his very, very best, and it's more Romantic in sound than most of his output, ergo closer to Williams' blockbuster scores (but still distinctly Goldsmith).
Though of course: There is no comparison.
Quite honestly, I can't get into "The Cloud" and even parts of "Vejur Flyover"
They're among my favourite cues.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:52 PM
Anyone else here a little bored by stuff like "The Cloud"?
I agree with Marian. That section of the soundtrack is among my favorites.
It's slow and meandering but so rich with so much going on. It takes some listening to really begin to understand and appreciate it all. At some point when you fully understand and appreciate you can listen to The Cloud and get a different experience depending on what you choose to focus on. Same for the other V'Ger tracks.
It's an, and I think the word is appropriate here, epic experience. There are parts of just "The Cloud" where the instruments reach so low you think the music is from Hell itself. At the same time strings are reaching towards the heavens and the hypnotic piano grounds the whole piece, with flurries of texture and notes everywhere else.
And it all comes together into this magnificent whole.
And as you grasp the music, you can zoom in and out of the different layers. So don't give up on it.
I do recommend some good sound equipment be they higher-end headphones or stereos to truly hear everything that is going on and to really feel the ever shifting textures.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 11:48 PM
The last third of this score is one that you can just lose yourself in. As an album experience it works magnificently. I couldn't tell you where the last few tracks start and end, but as an entire score it is very distinct. And this is based entirely on the OST and the expanded version - I haven't yet decided if I want to get LLL's version.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 12:01 AM
Get it...if not for the new tracks then the sound quality is worth it. The only complaint I have is that the "beefing up" of the sound has made the snare drums sound a bit synthy....but the effect on the rest of the orchestra is pleasant enough to make it ignorable.
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Finally ordered!
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