Yes. Everyone likes and dislikes different scores, and there's nothing wrong with that.
La-La Land Records' Star Trek The Motion Picture 3CD set coming June 5th
Started by Jason LeBlanc, May 17 2012 06:36 PM
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:18 PM
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:19 PM
Not in this case.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:20 PM
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:22 PM
Thank God I am not interested in this.
Please tell me you're joking.
No, I am not, at least for now. Star Trek TMP is far from being my favourite Goldsmith's score or even Star Trek score for that matter (I prefer Horner's TWOK), I already have the original album which I am wine with, besides I find Chinatown and Jane Eyre more essential purchases especially being short on money. I don't discard the idea of buying this set, but I am in no need to do it in the near future.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:29 PM
Chinatown and Jane Eyre are cheap mangy, crab infested whores compared to the Grace Kelley that is TMP.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:33 PM
Same here!
Ditto but so worth it! Kind of speechless.....
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:28 PM
It looks like Aint It Cool News was sent a nice high-res image of the front cover:
Source: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55816
Looks really handsome, this cover. The best version of this artwork yet.
And yeah, this score is a must. Moreso than V. It just flows beautifully, largely because it underscores long and silent sequences and pretty much carries the whole film in its shoulders. It is as good as film music gets. And yeah, I'm stating the obvious.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:47 PM
Thank God I am not interested in this.
Please tell me you're joking.
Ugh.
While I don't share Neimoidan's disinterest, I'm not actively planning to buy this either. Got a few tracks, but most of it doesn't click.
How will you cope with such news?
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:49 PM
Oh my poor unemployed wallet!
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:00 PM
Oh my poor unemployed wallet!
While I don't share Neimoidan's disinterest, I'm not actively planning to buy this either. Got a few tracks, but most of it doesn't click.
How will you cope with such news?
That was my first reaction. Then one day I listened to it and suddenly "got it". I don't understand anymore why it didn't click with me. Now it evokes on me emotions that not many scores do. It has that edge of sheer adventure like Herrmann's Journey to the Center of the Earth and the like. I listen to it, and I remember something Carl Sagan said: "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known".
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:16 PM
Thank God I am not interested in this.
Please tell me you're joking.
Ugh.
While I don't share Neimoidan's disinterest, I'm not actively planning to buy this either. Got a few tracks, but most of it doesn't click.
How will you cope with such news?
Your opinion is WRONG!
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:21 PM
I'm buying this, whatever the price. I might order Jane Eyre at the same time
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:31 PM
This thread gives me an erection...
i was going to mention the spine of the covers look...gay...
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:39 PM
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:39 PM
I'll be getting this for sure! Can't wait.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:51 PM
This is one of the mysterious things, which I cannot understand... why want a complete score of this one?
The original album is a bit underrepresented, okay I can understand. I prefer Goldsmith's vision, where he chose tracks to expand the score in 1998, but even in the expanded edition some tracks are redundant. Apart from that, this score is not that good.
So I am not interested. I pass.
The original album is a bit underrepresented, okay I can understand. I prefer Goldsmith's vision, where he chose tracks to expand the score in 1998, but even in the expanded edition some tracks are redundant. Apart from that, this score is not that good.
So I am not interested. I pass.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 12:02 AM
but even in the expanded edition some tracks are redundant. Apart from that, this score is not that good.
With that there, I wouldn't know how too explain it to you. People want a complete version of this because a)The score sounds amazing and sweeping and intriguing and beautiful b) The score doesn't actually feel redundant, but short!
I want to get lost in its soundscape but it doesn't let me. This is the reason why, despite being one of my absolute favourite scores, I don't go through it that much. I can't stand learning it by heart. I want that gorgeous feeling of listening to for the first few times.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 12:36 AM
That's understandable. What you mentioned is the sound that you really like about it.
But I also follow the intention of the composer and this three disc set is definitely not.
But I also follow the intention of the composer and this three disc set is definitely not.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 12:55 AM
The alternates give it a totally new dimension, and an evolutionary perspective.
The artwork here looks sumptuous.
The artwork here looks sumptuous.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:01 AM
I agree this score HAD to be released complete, if only for the alternates
I don't care too much for the Vger cloud musicparts
I don't care too much for the Vger cloud musicparts
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:11 AM
Plus it will make groovy rainbows shoot out of your CD player.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:12 AM
I'll consider getting this at some point. I already have the expansion, and that's been very nice.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:14 AM
One of the best ever. I am very much looking forward to this.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:51 AM
That's understandable. What you mentioned is the sound that you really like about it.
But I also follow the intention of the composer and this three disc set is definitely not.
"the Intention of the composer is to have 1 track, don't add anymore!"
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:10 AM
So you limit the things you enjoy because of what someone else says? I guess you didn't purchase 1941 or any other expansion then?That's understandable. What you mentioned is the sound that you really like about it.
But I also follow the intention of the composer and this three disc set is definitely not.
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:32 AM
I'll be ordering the release, for sure. And if my work schedule allows me to, I'd like to go to the event, as well. I've never had half as much love for this score as many of you do, but it's still great, and I'll look forward to having the additional material in pristine quality.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:39 AM
Our wedding anniversary is coming upWell both are practically unlimited at 10,000 copies, so you have plenty of time to get them when you can fit it into your budget. Can always ask for them as presents too:)
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:48 AM
This is the perfect present then
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:53 AM
That, and a steak dinnerThis is the perfect present then
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:52 AM
there are only a handful of John's score that are equal or better than STTMP.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 06:37 AM
Did some looking at that track listing picture, and this is what we have from the original score (I think):
1. Overture
2. Main Title / Klingon Battle
3. Total Logic
4. Floating Office
5. The Enterprise
6. Malfunction
7. Goodbye Klingons / Goodbye Epsilon Nine / Pre Launch
8. Leaving Drydock
9. Stardate / Warp Point Eight
10. No Goodbyes
11. Spock's arrival
12. Stardate / Warp Point Nine
13. Meet Vejur
14. The Cloud
15. Vejur Flyover
16. The Force Field
17. Micro Exam
18. Games / Spock Walk
19. System Inoperative
20. Hidden Information
21. Inner Workings
22. V'Get Speaks
23. The Meld / A Good Start
24. End Title
The last 3 cues are tracks 1, 2 and 3 on CD 2.
1. Overture
2. Main Title / Klingon Battle
3. Total Logic
4. Floating Office
5. The Enterprise
6. Malfunction
7. Goodbye Klingons / Goodbye Epsilon Nine / Pre Launch
8. Leaving Drydock
9. Stardate / Warp Point Eight
10. No Goodbyes
11. Spock's arrival
12. Stardate / Warp Point Nine
13. Meet Vejur
14. The Cloud
15. Vejur Flyover
16. The Force Field
17. Micro Exam
18. Games / Spock Walk
19. System Inoperative
20. Hidden Information
21. Inner Workings
22. V'Get Speaks
23. The Meld / A Good Start
24. End Title
The last 3 cues are tracks 1, 2 and 3 on CD 2.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:18 AM
As I suspected, the third Stardate that appears after "Micro Exam" in the film was tracked from the second Stardate cue, the one before Warp Point Eight.
I really do hope that the opening notes of "Main Titles" before going into the full fledged Star Trek theme is the 1979 theatrical version and not the one used in the "Director's Edition".
I really do hope that the opening notes of "Main Titles" before going into the full fledged Star Trek theme is the 1979 theatrical version and not the one used in the "Director's Edition".
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:28 AM
I doubt it, the version used on the soundtrack releases and the DE was Jerry's intended version.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:36 AM
Sigh. Maybe. I love this score
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:11 AM
There is no comparison.
I pass.
I pass.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:12 AM
Why? The score quotes Finlandia a bit, doesn't it?
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:14 AM
Really?
Then I have to think about it...
Then I have to think about it...
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:18 AM
Or was it Sinfonia Antartica??
Some shitty cold place anyway...
Some shitty cold place anyway...
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