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#161 Ro Sajooc

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:49 PM

3 CDs are not enough :lick:

WOW! One hour of alternate music.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:12 PM

The only thing that would make this release better would be if they A: did a limited vinyl run and B: released a DVD-audio version.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:56 PM

Vinyl!!!!! Would be super sweet

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 12:14 AM

The only thing that would make this release better would be if they A: did a limited vinyl run and B: released a DVD-audio version.


A DVD Audio version I could see but I don't think a Vinyl would work out too well. With this being 3-CDs with vinyl there's be more "discs". Well either way neither will happen.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:43 AM

Vinyl? First thing I'd do is rip it to MP3.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:08 AM

That Shaun Cassidy version of the song sounds REALLY good, to me, honestly. Has it ever sounded any better than the following clip below? I'm sure LaLaLand's version will sound a-ma-zing.



Also, I wondered why they chose the DVD-sourced Director's Cut of the film for the event? Wouldn't it have been perhaps more impressive to use the BluRay source, even though the BluRay is only the theatrical cut? It still is a shame the BluRay set only has the theatrical cut. It's the one thing for me that has always held me back on getting the film set on Blu.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:41 AM

So why isnt any of this info on the main page?

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:48 AM

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:53 AM

Not like there is anything new coming out from JW!

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:42 AM

There's something suggestive about that jolly rainbow poster.

Anyhow, I hope the Aussie dollar doesn't drop any more. I depend on a strong dollar to buy American CDs with a currency worth more than your Yankie dollars.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:52 AM

There's something suggestive about that jolly rainbow poster.


If you but it they will think you're a puffta!

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:07 PM

Not to change the subject but I'm glad LLL kept the original 1979 album cover instead of the (I guess) modified director ed. DVD below.

Soooo excited for this release folks.... :D

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:12 PM

I only now, thanks to this thread, know that the love theme from this score had lyrics written to it.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:16 PM

I'm scared to listen to that song.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:17 PM

Well I did deactivate it seconds after it began.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:46 PM

I'll be ordering the release, for sure. And if my work schedule allows me to, I'd like to go to the event, as well. I've never had half as much love for this score as many of you do, but it's still great, and I'll look forward to having the additional material in pristine quality.


:) I'm looking forward to it too. The bootleg has been deleted from my hard drive and iPod.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:52 PM

I never had any of the bootlegs for this score. Was the "Unused Score" ever on them, or just a lot of the alternates?
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:58 PM

The early versions have been out there for years.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:18 PM

Now I'm afraid I will never be able to "un-hear" Shaun Cassidy's song when I watch the movie again.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:46 PM

Hahaha! Sorry for posting it! I actually don't think it's bad, for the kind of "score theme turned into a song" thing. In a way it's sound sort of reminded me of the "Flying Dreams" song in Secret of Nimh. Not that it's much of a compliment in saying that, but really I don't think this one is bad haha. If people don't like it, just skip it and don't include it in your ripped to iPod version. ;) I for one will be glad to have it, especially given it's apparent rarity.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:24 PM

I only now, thanks to this thread, know that the love theme from this score had lyrics written to it.


It's in the 20th anniversary edition booklet. Even i, not very much of a Goldsmith fan, know that.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:15 PM

I'm scared to listen to that song.


I have a piano arrangement of that song. Roddenberry gets credit for writing the lyrics. Wonder if he did that to make money off the song like he did with the TOS theme.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:27 PM

Probably.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 11:56 PM

It's in the 20th anniversary edition booklet.


The only thing I remember from that booklet was the picture of the Enterprise-A.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 02:01 AM

Now I'm afraid I will never be able to "un-hear" Shaun Cassidy's song when I watch the movie again.


me too :crymore:

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 03:32 AM

and people think Gays are drama queens.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 04:23 AM

Depends on my mood.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 05:06 AM

It's really a bromance between Kirk and Spock (which is drawn out over five more films). Decker loves Ilia because her bald head is phallic and masculine. Not to mention those uniforms...

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 06:03 AM

It's really a bromance between Kirk and Spock (which is drawn out over five more films).


Ah yes. If Spock had let Kirk fall off that mountain, he would have broken his back, setting the stage for many a long night in the tent, out in cowboy country, California.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 05:56 PM

Based on that track list, it looks like you could literally assemble a whole other version of the score with the alternates. I might have to do that as this is one of the few scores whose alternates interest me.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:23 AM

Another tidbit from Mike Matessino:

Ok, now on to the tough topic. We know what the release is, we know what is going to be featured on it, and we know how much effort is being put into making it the best possible Star Trek soundtrack release since Star Trek V. But there is one subject that I have yet to mention.

FEAR!

Is there anything about this soundtrack that anyone is worried about?

The one and only thing that has me worried about this particular soundtrack are these tracks.

7. Goodbye Klingon / Goodbye Epsilon Nine / Pre-Launch (2:10)
9. TV Theme / Warp Point Eight (0:50)
12. TV Theme / Warp Point Nine (1:49)

If you're familiar with my posts in the Star Trek VI Complete Score posts, you probably know what I'm talking about. The gap between the each music piece. Track #7 on this new set is the one piece that I've been clamoring for and my biggest fear is that each piece will crossfade into one another to make the whole track sound like one solid music piece instead of each piece being completely separate while still in the same track, like the "FIRE!" part in the complete score to Star Trek VI.

That's my biggest and so far only fear in regards to this release. But since I own the Star Trek V soundtrack and found that there are bigger musical gaps in it's complete form than it's album incarnation, I think my fears will most likely be completely unfounded.

*fingers crossed*



You guys should not fret about the little combos. The few we did were because the cues were short, narratively linked, and not done by Goldsmith. There is just enough space to keep them as separate musical statements without seeming like fragments standing out in the cold.

The combos of "Games / Spock Walk" and "The Meld / A Good Start" follow the original intent of the film and were done in the full score only. The clean beginnings and endings can be heard on the album or in the alternates.

I think that it's just "Main Title," "The Enterprise" and "Leaving Drydock" that went to the original album from digital recordings. The 3-track to 35mm mag was a live mix with Dolby noise reduction. The 16-track was previously used for the "Directors Edition" but back then it was only transferred at 48k.

On the subject of Blu-Ray... what MV said. Please come to celebrate one of the greatest scores ever. Please note we now have some added guests: Richard Kraft, Richard Kline, Mark Mangini.

Mike


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:02 AM

I can't believe that no one has posted this yet:

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:45 AM

Awesome
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:11 AM

Heh, Star Trek has become a monkey business...

If you put John Williams in a dryer, you get Jerry Goldsmith! You get the downside version!


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:24 PM

New article on the LLL release is up on variety.com

http://www.variety.c...le/VR1118054625


Quoting it here because eventually you won't be able to read it on variety.com without a subscription



Star treatment for Goldsmith's 'Trek' score

Restored version of landmark music gets deluxe package

By JON BURLINGAME



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Thirty-three years after its initial release, composer Jerry Goldsmith's landmark score for "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" has been completely restored and is about to be released in a deluxe package designed to satisfy fans who have long clamored for this material.
Goldsmith's score received a 1979 Oscar nomination, marked the beginning of a 23-year relationship with the "Trek" franchise and would become among his best-known works because the main-title music was later revived as the theme for TV's long-running "Star Trek: The Next Generation."
But the first of the 10 "Trek" films was notoriously plagued by production problems that took a toll on Goldsmith's schedule for writing and recording. The result was more than 20 minutes of early music that was recorded but never used.
That music, plus 85 minutes of the actual film score and another 75 minutes of outtakes and bonus tracks, is included in the 3-CD set to be released June 5 by Burbank-based La-La Land Records.
"It's a landmark science-fiction score, something Goldsmith excelled at," says Jeff Bond, author of "The Music of Star Trek." Bond cites "Planet of the Apes," "Logan's Run" and "Alien" as other seminal works by the composer but finds the original "Trek" a "transitional score for Goldsmith, where he started moving in a more romantic direction after years of very experimental, often dissonant music."
The challenge for Goldsmith (who died in 2004), according to album producer Mike Matessino, was not just composing without benefit of a completed film (because the visual effects came in very late) but also finding a new, post-"Star Wars" direction for space-adventure music and musically matching a thoughtful, ambitious storyline.
Matessino, who worked with "Star Trek" director Robert Wise to restore and recut the film for a 2001 DVD, calls Goldsmith's approach "operatic" and believes it ranks with such all-time classic scores as "King Kong," "Gone With the Wind" and "Ben-Hur."
It took five months to find, restore and remix. Thirty-six reels of music were found in the Paramount vaults; a long-missing 37th reel was discovered at Columbia Records, which paid for the original scoring sessions in exchange for album rights.
The film also marked the beginning of a long professional relationship between the composer and scoring mixer Bruce Botnick, who in 1979 was a Columbia Records producer overseeing the "Trek" album. Botnick (who recorded all of the composer's subsequent "Trek" scores) remixed the entire score for the new release.
"I still think it's breathtaking," says Botnick. "It's as inventive as 'Planet of the Apes,' some of the best modern classical music of this era. I would love to see it performed live at (L.A.'s) Disney Hall. I think it would blow people's minds."
Among the unique sounds that Goldsmith discovered for "Star Trek" was the Blaster Beam, an 18-foot-long aluminum percussion instrument built and played by Craig Huxley (who, as a child actor, had appeared on two episodes of the "Trek" TV series in the 1960s).

Its 24 tuned strings, struck by pipes and even an artillery-shell casing, made the strange, booming noise associated with the V'ger entity that the Enterprise crew encounters in the film. Huxley will perform on it at a screening of the film and panel discussion (including Bond, Matessino, Botnick and others) on June 4 at the ArcLight Cinema in Hollywood.


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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:17 AM

I lost track, when is the STTMP set going on sale?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:54 AM

I lost track, when is the STTMP set going on sale?

On June the 5th, meaning today. :)

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:01 AM

June 5th 1pm PST is when it will be up for sale. If you attended the special screening in L.A. tonight you were able to get the score in advanced before the rest of us.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:05 AM

Yep. And a most handsome set it is, despite a minor typo on the spine ("friom" instead of "from"). And they were handing out free replacements, though you have to replace it yourself inside the case.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:17 AM

Isn't that a minor quibble if you are offered a corrected version? :)

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