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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:35 AM

. “John Davis at Precision Audiosonics baked each of the 37 rolls in a convection oven at 110º for eight hours so that they were playable,


Ok, I haven't been following all the discussions, but I've never heard of master tapes having to be cooked.

This set sounds pristine and better than the old boots...right?

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:50 AM

Why don't you listen to the samples and judge for yourself?

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:09 AM

Sounds good

Well, all the boots are in the garbage can now, so i won't be making listening comparisons

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:03 AM

Tape baking is risky, but sometimes the only way to make the tapes playable.

It has something to do with the coating on the tapes rotting away, so the coating is baked off.

Once this happens, the tapes can be played back, but there is a very real risk of destroying the tapes.

From what I gather, it seems they encoded the entire tapes at high resolution digitally, so the music is preserved, and this digital source was used for the score presentation.

These tapes were also the source of the music used for the Directors Edition, but were recorded at the tipe at 48k, basically DVD resolution.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:10 AM

So the complete film score fits on 1 disk (disk 1) ? Doesn't the boot take more than 1 disk just for the score?

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:15 AM

No the film score continues on the 2nd disc for three tracks.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:16 AM

ah ok,l didn't read right

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:45 AM

I remember reading that Rambo II's tapes needed to be baked for the expansion - and they were only 14 years old by that point.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:46 AM

Imagine if they had to bake a holy grail Williams score and destroyed it in the process

by the time Lucasfilm decides to release the Prequels or the Indy scores complete they might have to double bake them

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:22 AM

I remember seeing in some DVD featurette that Ben Burtt had to cook his sound effects tapes of Star Wars in order to re-use them again. At the time it was very strange to me.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 01:46 PM

MV uploaded this 600x600 artwork to Facebook, I think it makes better ipod art than the version with the banners on top and bottom

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:30 PM

I remember seeing in some DVD featurette that Ben Burtt had to cook his sound effects tapes of Star Wars in order to re-use them again. At the time it was very strange to me.


Yeah, that was my first exposure to the technique, too. I immediately thought of that when I read that they'd done the same for TMP. Rest assured, everyone, the orchestra doesn't sound like it's been put in the oven. :P

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:33 PM


I remember seeing in some DVD featurette that Ben Burtt had to cook his sound effects tapes of Star Wars in order to re-use them again. At the time it was very strange to me.


Yeah, that was my first exposure to the technique, too. I immediately thought of that when I read that they'd done the same for TMP. Rest assured, everyone, the orchestra doesn't sound like it's been put in the oven. :P

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:37 PM



I remember seeing in some DVD featurette that Ben Burtt had to cook his sound effects tapes of Star Wars in order to re-use them again. At the time it was very strange to me.


Yeah, that was my first exposure to the technique, too. I immediately thought of that when I read that they'd done the same for TMP. Rest assured, everyone, the orchestra doesn't sound like it's been put in the oven. :P

no lots of screaming and begging?


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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:09 PM

MV uploaded this 600x600 artwork to Facebook, I think it makes better ipod art than the version with the banners on top and bottom

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I prefer this one:

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There is no comparison.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:14 PM

'space intentionally left blank' comes to mind seeing the old cover :P
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:28 PM

he could have signed it in the blank space

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:00 PM

The artwork of the new CD makes more sense lol

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:24 PM

Indeed it does. :)

I've been listening to this almost constantly since getting it, and I'm STILL eager for more.

I find the new mix to be fantastic, and I'll likely never go back to the OST again, even though I have it on the end of CD 2.

It's interesting, but there is a clarity, and I guess I could call it transparency here that is very pleasing to the ear.

I expected it to sound better than the OST, but I never expected this.

I dare say, for me at least, that THIS is a perfect soundtrack presentation.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:27 PM

How are the liner notes? How is Jim Titus' art design?
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:39 PM

he could have signed it in the blank space


I was expecting him to. But at that point, he was too ill to do a public signing, they just collected the covers for him to sign after the first concert and returned them after the second one.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:49 PM

How are the liner notes? How is Jim Titus' art design?


Liner notes: From what I read, absolutely superb, though I've not really sat down and read through them.

Track by track breakdown is great in there.

Design: Absolutely perfect. Great picutres related to the tracks in the breakdown, many of them stills from the movie itself.

Very easy on the eye, with a simplicity and elegance that we often get from Mr. Titus.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:52 PM

Yea, he's the best. Can't wait for mine to arrive.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:22 PM

That was fast....I got mine today.

I just want to make it abundantly clear that Bruce Botnick is clearly a higher evolved form of life. I cannot believe this release contains music from 33 years ago. It sounds better than some of the recordings released this year.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:23 PM

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:46 PM

I photoshop'd the other version of the cover to 800x800 for my eventual iTunes import:

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I can't wait for mine to arrive! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow but, I don't really expect it until Saturday.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:59 PM

I'm undecided on which version to use, but I might go with yours rolltide.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:42 PM

Mine didn't show up today but should have it tomorrow.
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:23 PM

where is it shipping from? LA?
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:30 PM

Yes. Mine arrived today! In Massachusetts!
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:35 PM

wow, that's exceptionally fast. but don't you live in boston? mail between big cities is much faster than rural addresses.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:02 AM

I expected it to sound better than the OST, but I never expected this.


The electronic chimes are missing from the main theme in the End Title. That was the one cool thing about it compared to later versions .

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:04 AM

where is it shipping from? LA?


I believe so.

I'm in Utah and I was hoping I'd have the same luck with Hook and get it today but alas. I should have it tomorrow.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:04 AM

Were those chimes in the theatrical release of the movie's end credits?

Also, check out the alternates.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:07 AM

I should whip out the movie to check. Maybe the OST didn't use the film version

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:08 AM

MV wrote back they're in Burbank.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:39 AM

wow, that's exceptionally fast. but don't you live in boston? mail between big cities is much faster than rural addresses.


I don't live near Boston at all, in fact I live closer to Providence. I'm kinda in the middle.... Well 25 mins from Prov and 45 from Boston
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:01 AM

still pretty urban, and the mail is much quicker in urban areas. enjoy
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:34 AM

If a LLL title ships on a Tuesday I typically get it on Saturday. Looking forward to rediscovering this one when I get a chance to order it.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:46 AM

still pretty urban, and the mail is much quicker in urban areas. enjoy


Ya I'm surprised Jason got his before me, generally it's the other way around. All though packages from California generally go up to Salt Lake City then back down here to Cedar City. I'm not sure why it couldn't go from Cali to Vegas then here to Cedar City, kind of stupid to go the long way.
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