The Director's Cut is not quite as long....
Star Trek: The Motion Picture on the big screen in Los Angeles Monday June 4th
Started by Jason LeBlanc, May 17 2012 06:45 PM
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:23 PM
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:26 PM
The story still could have been compressed into a decently-paced 20 minutes. 
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:31 PM
Yea, its basically an episode the show stretched to 2 hours. If it wasn't for the great score, I wouldn't have watched it as many times as I have
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:37 PM
One thing I forgot to mention about the event last night was that we watched the "The Enterprise" scene without any music at all, and people couldn't help laughing. All the silent cuts between Shatner pretending to look at stuff and beautiful but redundant shots of the Enterprise...it was comedy gold, and really summed up for me why I don't like that film.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:45 PM
I love this film. It's stodgy direction is so endearing.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:46 PM
One thing I forgot to mention about the event last night was that we watched the "The Enterprise" scene without any music at all, and people couldn't help laughing. All the silent cuts between Shatner pretending to look at stuff and beautiful but redundant shots of the Enterprise...it was comedy gold, and really summed up for me why I don't like that film.
Haha, that sounds awesome.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:47 PM
It almost seems like the people who made Star Trek: The Motionless Picture took notes about what worked well for Star Wars, and they wrote down "overwhelming special effects," "excellent musical score," but the rest of the notes were destroyed when their jeans went through the washing machine.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:12 PM
Pretty much! The parts about "classic hero's tale", "faster, more intense", and "costumes that don't look like pajamas" seem to have been rendered especially illegible...
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:23 PM
Pretty much! The parts about "classic hero's tale", "faster, more intense", and "costumes that don't look like pajamas" seem to have been rendered especially illegible...
The first two of these are unnecesary, the third one I don't care.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:38 PM
Unnecessary, but they sure contributed to Star Wars' success!
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:14 PM
Yea, its basically an episode the show stretched to 2 hours. If it wasn't for the great score, I wouldn't have watched it as many times as I have
An episode of... the show you admitted to not watching?
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:19 PM
I have a question. Which version of the film should I see?
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:21 PM
I have a question. Which version of the film should I see?
I remember watching the "extended" TV version when it was on many years ago. Grant they showed unfinished shots for some scenes but it was good to watch. I like the Director's Cut but there's something about how some scenes were just ordered differently that I didn't like too much.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:22 PM
The DE has the best pace, there's something vaguely resembling tension in the third act.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:24 PM
The DE has the best pace, there's something vaguely resembling tension in the third act.
True and the improved special effects added a lot to it. I know some didn't like the new effects for the when it showed the transport shuttle carrying Kirk to Starfleet Headquarters. I for one did but the only thing I didn't like was the words "Starfleet Headquarters" then the given Stardate below.
BTW got shipping notice!
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:33 PM
I really want to see it, it sounds like a film I'll like.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:43 PM
I have a question. Which version of the film should I see?
The best version of the film IMHO is the Director's Edition, but that's only available on DVD, not blu ray. If HD is important to you, there's a nice remastered Blu Ray of the Theatrical Cut.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:50 PM
The theatrical version is also available on DVD.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:53 PM
Is it now? For almost a decade it was not
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:01 PM
If my memory serves, I bought it two years ago here in Spain.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:04 PM
Ah. In the USA, I'm pretty sure the DC is all that's been available since 2001 until the Theatrical Cut came to blu in 2009
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:24 PM
Maybe this is only available in Europe.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:25 PM
It's on the DVD set too.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:29 PM
It's on the DVD set too.
What is?
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:29 PM
If I'm not wrong, the set contains the six first films.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:30 PM
Which set?
Every box set I've ever seen in the USA has the DC version of the first film.
The blu ray box set has the theatrical version, as I've mentioned
Every box set I've ever seen in the USA has the DC version of the first film.
The blu ray box set has the theatrical version, as I've mentioned
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:39 PM
Aha, didn't realize they made a new box set identical to the blu ray box set but with DVDs inside. Cool.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:49 PM
Is there any hope for the Director's Cut in Blu Ray?
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:03 PM
When they made the DC in 2001, they rendered all the new special effects in 480p only. So until Paramount decides its worth their money to completely re-render all the new special effects at 1080p, it will never happen.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:03 PM
I'm sure it will happen.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:07 PM
If it didn't happen right after the box office success of the 2009 reboot, I dunno what they are waiting for.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:09 PM
They were waiting for the score to be remastered.
Paramount is investing heavily in upgrading TNG to High Def, so there is hope that they will focus their attention to TMP
Paramount is investing heavily in upgrading TNG to High Def, so there is hope that they will focus their attention to TMP
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:42 PM
I've got the Director's Cut on DVD. The first disc only contains the main "Director's Cut" itself. Disc 2 contains scenes that were from the theatrical version as well as the extended TV version that didn't make it into the cut.
The theatrical cut is only available on VHS and the Blu-Ray version of the film.
BTW just as a little bit of info that Mike Matessino told me, he was the main supervisor who over saw the audio restoration for the "Director's Cut", including the score in the film.
The theatrical cut is only available on VHS and the Blu-Ray version of the film.
BTW just as a little bit of info that Mike Matessino told me, he was the main supervisor who over saw the audio restoration for the "Director's Cut", including the score in the film.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 12:57 AM
Trent, that is not a secret that Matessino told you. He has always been fully credited for work on that cut.
And it's obviously listed on his website too
http://www.mikematessino.com/projects/
And it's obviously listed on his website too
http://www.mikematessino.com/projects/
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:04 AM
I honestly never knew it until he told me via email the other day.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:13 AM
He's listed in the end credits of the film itself IIRC
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:26 PM
and in the Expanded OST right?
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:29 PM
He did not work on that
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:39 PM
I mean the 1CD expanded...
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