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#1 wanner251

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 08:27 PM

What are some of your favorite villain/antagonist themes?
-So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 08:28 PM

Mola Ram's theme/

Darth Vaders Theme

Nazi Theme

George Lucas's Theme ;)

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:06 PM

Which Nazi Theme?
-So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:10 PM

the one from TLC.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:30 PM

Molar ram is nice.

Bad guys from home alone. I like it more than its causin lex luthors theme.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:51 PM

The Government motif from Close Encounters.


The Emperor's Theme

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:02 PM

The bad guy theme from Chicken Run is great. Also the ET themes.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:07 PM

The Government motif from Close Encounters.


That theme is badass.

The bad guy theme from Chicken Run is great. Also the ET themes.


Yes to both.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:56 PM



@ 2:56.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:38 AM

The Emperor's Theme

Imperial March

The Ringwraith/Nazgul Theme

The dark Motif in for example the "Commandos Arrive" track at 0:50 (from Black Sunday)

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:44 AM

Keys from E.T., T-1000 from T2, Harry and Marv from Home Alone, Jaws and villains from Superman II spring to mind first.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 12:51 PM

The Government motif from Close Encounters.


That theme is badass.


I love its close cousin, in Jaws 2 "The Big Jolt!"

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:09 PM

Damien's theme from "The Final Conflict". You don't get a bigger, or badder villan than the Antichrist.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:20 PM

Molar ram is nice.


Molar ram? Makes a root canal sound like a walk in the park.

Imperial March


Unfortunately the ultimate revelation of the saga is that the Imperial March is not a villain theme at all. The theme represents the Chosen One, who the prophecy foretells will bring balance to the Force, and is thus the ultimate hero of the entire saga when he vanquishes the evil Emperor.

ROTFLMAO

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:33 PM

Voldemort's Theme from HPSS
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:23 PM

Clown Dream from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure



My sister runs screaming from the room when I play this.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:27 PM


Molar ram is nice.


Molar ram? Makes a root canal sound like a walk in the park.

Imperial March


Unfortunately the ultimate revelation of the saga is that the Imperial March is not a villain theme at all. The theme represents the Chosen One, who the prophecy foretells will bring balance to the Force, and is thus the ultimate hero of the entire saga when he vanquishes the evil Emperor.

ROTFLMAO


Nope, it represents the march of the Empire.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:30 PM

Someday you will learn that the ROTFLMAO means the previous comment was so full of bullshit I couldn't keep myself from falling to the floor laughing.

That day has not yet come.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:38 PM

March of the Villians, I like the whimsical take of it.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:50 PM

Clown Dream from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure



My sister runs screaming from the room when I play this.


Wow, i didn't knew who the composer was, and i guessed it was Danny Elfman. And i'm right.

I'm awesome.

Someday you will learn that the ROTFLMAO means the previous comment was so full of bullshit I couldn't keep myself from falling to the floor laughing.

That day has not yet come.


I realized that after i had posted. And an empty post is worse than a reply on bullshit that contains bullshit, isn't it?

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:06 PM

Voldemort's theme (all of them :P )
All the Villain themes from the Spider-Man trilogy
Joker's theme
Ras' al Ghul theme
Darth Vader's
The Raptor theme from JP
The Emperors theme
Captain Hook's theme (Hook)
Switchblade Sam from Dennis the menace
Harvey Dent/Two-Face
Jaws
Mola Ram

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:30 PM

Hooray! The day HAS come!

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:57 PM

Which Nazi Theme?


The Federation Droids. Awesome, fun and almost entirely forgotten.


The Predator (Silverstri) has a couple of great broody motifs, too. They feel very primal and ritualistic, as bad guy themes go. Easy to overlook, but superb examples nonetheless.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:11 PM

ooh, what about Dracula Wojciech Kilar version.. Man, personally I think one of the most overlooked and best scores / Theme's out there.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:22 PM

The Federation Droids. Awesome, fun and almost entirely forgotten.


Oh shit, that was stuck in my head for years...

And it fits straight into the amazing soundscape of that score.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:14 PM

ooh, what about Dracula Wojciech Kilar version.. Man, personally I think one of the most overlooked and best scores / Theme's out there.


And this:


If we talk about JW only, I would say:
- Imperial March
- Nuclear Man Theme
- Dracula Main Title
- The Chamber of Secrets
- The Droid Battle

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 11:27 PM

And this:



Well another demonstrate that Williams is a light year ahead of dramatic action writing comparing to these other guys.

But I really like the love theme of this score. The action writing is always very demanding.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:20 AM

Can I have a link and and times to Key's Theme from E.T and The Government theme from Close Encounters ? :D

Is Mola Ram's theme that chanting that plays in "The Temple of Doom" (the actual track title) and in Broken Bridge?

While I love the Nazi March in TLC, I like the Nazi motif from the Raiders. It's vaguely militaristic and kind of weird to me, but I like it. And it sounds so much like the Empire motif from ANH.

I love Dovchenko's theme from KOCS and the treatment it gets in "Ants".
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 01:23 AM

not a traditional villian theme, but hopefully i'm not the only one who liked this


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Posted 20 May 2012 - 01:27 AM

- Nuclear Man Theme

Ugh, no! But to each their own.

Not mentioned so far:

Skeletor's Theme. So awesome. Oh and yeah, the Turtles music is cool.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 02:54 AM

JGs Klingon theme. As least the way it was used in TMP and TFF.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 05:03 AM

I like the Two-Face motif from Batman Forever, which Goldenthal reprised as Mr. Freeze's motif in Batman & Robin with some more operatic touches. It was more or less Goldenthal's general villain theme and I think it was the strongest villain music in the series. I wonder if it would have been brought back if Schumacher got to make Batman Triumphant?
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 05:21 AM

Is Mola Ram's theme that chanting that plays in "The Temple of Doom" (the actual track title) and in Broken Bridge?


I believe "the temple of doom", which also appears on the broken bridge, is kind of the sacrifice, or 'kali-ma' theme. The actual Mola Ram theme is the 4 note motif heard during the beginning of the Mine Car Chase, and also a few times during the Broken Bridge.

Both are great.

Mola Ram's Theme at 0:11
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 06:00 AM

if Schumacher got to make Batman Triumphant


To whoever made the call not to...
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:10 AM


Is Mola Ram's theme that chanting that plays in "The Temple of Doom" (the actual track title) and in Broken Bridge?


I believe "the temple of doom", which also appears on the broken bridge, is kind of the sacrifice, or 'kali-ma' theme. The actual Mola Ram theme is the 4 note motif heard during the beginning of the Mine Car Chase, and also a few times during the Broken Bridge.

Both are great.

Mola Ram's Theme at 0:11


Is there any more examples? Time for broken bridge please? :D
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:47 AM

I like muntz's theme from up! I think it has an interesting development as it starts off all fun, warm and happy in 'up with titles' and then becomes darker and darker as the story progresses. 'seizing the spirit of adventure' is an interesting track where it clashes with ellie's theme :)

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:41 AM

I'm going to say some that people have yet to mention.

Basil Poledouris' "Riders of Doom" theme from Conan the Barbarian, which is up there with Williams' "Imperial March", imo.

Jerry Goldsmith's "Richter" theme from Total Recall

Jerry Goldsmith's "Bear" theme from The Edge

Jerry Goldsmith's "Cash theme" from Exrtreme Prejudice

Jerry Goldsmith's "Alien" theme from Alien

Jerry Goldsmith's theme for the Russian enemy in Rambo: First Blood Part II

Danny Elfman's "Penguin theme" and "Catwoman theme" from Batman Returns

Danny Elfman's "Red Dragon Theme" from Red Dragon

Danny Elfman's "Headless Horseman theme" from Sleepy Hollow

Leonard Rosenman's "RoboCain theme" from Robocop 2

Various villain themes from Shirley Walker's B:TAS and The Flash series.

Shirley Walker's "Phantasm theme" from B:MOTP.

Michael Giachinno's "Syndrome theme" from The Incredibles

Marco Beltrami's "Rasputin theme" from Hellboy.

Bruce Broughton's "Dracula theme" from The Monster Squad

Bruce Broughton's "Smith's theme" from Lost In Space

John Powell's "Dark Phoenix theme" from X3.

John Ottman's "Lex Luthor Theme" from Superman Returns.

That's off the top of my head.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:53 AM

I like muntz's theme from up! I think it has an interesting development as it starts off all fun, warm and happy in 'up with titles' and then becomes darker and darker as the story progresses. 'seizing the spirit of adventure' is an interesting track where it clashes with ellie's theme :)


I prefer the "Evil of Muntz" motif, or the piratey motif that appears in the beggining of "Seizing the Spirit of Adventure" or "Geriatric Dogfight"

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:08 AM

Is there any more examples? Time for broken bridge please? :D




At 0:54 and 1:41.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 01:49 PM


Is there any more examples? Time for broken bridge please? :D




At 0:54 and 1:41.


Ah thank you! I was reading in the score analysis that there this is the refrain; is there availability of the hearing the full statement of the theme (without watching the movie)?

And is Syndrome's theme (from Incredibles) the motif heard in "Kronos Unveiled"?
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