Best Harrison Ford film performance
#1
Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:52 PM
I didn't include of course every single item of his career, but only pivotal films/roles from 1977 until today.
Personally, I think his best ever are Raiders, The Mosquito Coast and Frantic.
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#2
Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:00 PM
And in K-19:The Widowmaker.
If you put John Williams in a dryer, you get Jerry Goldsmith! You get the downside version!
#3
Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:01 PM
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
#4
Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:04 PM
I like his performance in Air Force One.
And in K-19:The Widowmaker.
Poll amended
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#5
Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:13 PM
#6
Posted 05 June 2012 - 02:51 PM
Presumed Innocent deserves a mention though.
#7
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:04 PM
Raiders Of The Last Crusade Of Doom for me.
I mean, Raiders. Just Raiders. Ford is Jones, and no one else.
#8
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:05 PM
#9
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:28 PM
He's not a very good actor outside of Han Solo or Indiana Jones I'm afraid, but those 2 characters he inhabits perfectly
#11
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:33 PM
#12
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:34 PM
Ford is a terrific actor. He was fine in Star Wars, ESB, Raiders, Blade Runner, etc. but it was two roles I struggled between. Witness is a superb performance, full of nuances and little quirks, but its his turn in What Lies Beneath that is the one I chose.
To see him play against type was terrific. I urge those who have not seen this film watch for him performance. It is exceptional.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#14
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:37 PM
#15
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:39 PM
He gets almost nothing to work with in Jedi, so I can understand why it isn't on the list.No Return Of The Jedi? Wow. That's harsh.
I went with Bladerunner. His best films are Raiders, Star Wars, and Empire, but if we're judging his performance alone I think Bladerunner shows off his acting talents slightly better.
Surprised Hannover Street isn't on the list, though it's a pretty dull film.
#16
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:39 PM
The runner up would definitely be The Empire Strikes Back.
#17
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:41 PM
KM is full of crap.
Ford is a terrific actor. He was fine in Star Wars, ESB, Raiders, Blade Runner, etc. but it was two roles I struggled between. Witness is a superb performance, full of nuances and little quirks, but its his turn in What Lies Beneath that is the one I chose.
To see him play against type was terrific. I urge those who have not seen this film watch for him performance. It is exceptional.
I wouldn't go that far, but I agree he was certainly pretty damn good and entertaining in the role. Very entertaining, and surprisingly rather threatening!
#18
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:43 PM
He's not a very good actor outside of Han Solo or Indiana Jones I'm afraid
I do not agree. While he surely ain't Al Pacino or Daniel Day-Lewis, he's a very good actor with more craft than he usually recognized for. He got sort of typecasted into stoic hero roles for too much time. There was a time during the late '80s/early 90s where he showed his better skills imho (Witness, The Mosquito Coast, Frantic, Working Girl, Presumed Innocent) and seemed he wanted to pursue a more varied career. At that point, he was one of the few modern Hollywood actors who seemed to have the same knack of classic 1940s/1950s Hollywood stars while having a modern edge at the same time.
Then, after the huge success of The Fugitive and Jack Ryan movies he got again stuck into marble-like roles of the undefeatable American hero and got away with some questionable fare like Air Force One or forgotten duds like Six Days and Seven Nights or Devil's Own. During the last 10 years he didn't do particularly good movies, none of them featured a memorable performance (with the exception maybe of What Lies Beneath) and most of them will likely end up forgotten. That's why he became tied more than ever to his great roles of the past, Indy above all.
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#19
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:50 PM
BTW his performance in Raiders of the Lost Ark is terrific work. It's something a Pacino(overrated actor in my book) or Daniel Day Lewis (often too intense) could ever do. That's why there are so many outstanding actors out there with varied talents.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#20
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:51 PM
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#21
Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:57 PM
He's the quintessential Hero. If one has to be typed cast into a specific characterization this is not a bad one to be stuck in.
BTW his performance in Raiders of the Lost Ark is terrific work. It's something a Pacino(overrated actor in my book) or Daniel Day Lewis (often too intense) could ever do. That's why there are so many outstanding actors out there with varied talents.
I agree he's the quintessential film hero and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And I do agree with my whole heart that only him could pull off such a great performance in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
I just pointed out that there was a time in his career where he seemed interested in taking more challenging roles (like the work he did for Weir and Polanski, two clever directors who played smartly with his iconic hero status) but later got stuck into predictable/unmemorable characters.
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#22
Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:21 PM
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#23
Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:24 PM
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#24
Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:36 PM
Especially his deliver of "Nice try, Leo Che!", "We. Are Going. To DIE!", and just the whole opening sequence in Club Obi-Wan. Also the smaller moments like when he tells Willy to eat the food the villagers gave her, when he's at dinner talking about the Thugees, etc. Really great performance.
#25
Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:42 PM
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#26
Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:52 PM
#27
Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:55 PM
#28
Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:42 PM
His only Oscar nom was for Witness.
Interesting. At one point, I remember reading that the only film Ford was ever in that was nominated for Best Picture was The Fugitive, but that is not true since Witness also was.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
#29
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:30 PM
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#30
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:49 PM
His only Oscar nom was for Witness.
Interesting. At one point, I remember reading that the only film Ford was ever in that was nominated for Best Picture was The Fugitive, but that is not true since Witness also was.
Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark were up for Best Picture as well.
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#31
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:50 PM
whatever you read was completely wrong.
His only Oscar nom was for Witness.
Interesting. At one point, I remember reading that the only film Ford was ever in that was nominated for Best Picture was The Fugitive, but that is not true since Witness also was.
American Graffiti
Star Wars
Apocalypse Now
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Witness
The Fugitive
All were nominated for Best Picture.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#32
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:52 PM
#33
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:55 PM
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#34
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:57 PM
I really, really enjoy his performance in Temple of Doom.
Especially his deliver of "Nice try, Leo Che!", "We. Are Going. To DIE!", and just the whole opening sequence in Club Obi-Wan. Also the smaller moments like when he tells Willy to eat the food the villagers gave her, when he's at dinner talking about the Thugees, etc. Really great performance.
There's a much more pronounced comedic tone in Ford's performance in ToD. I guess he and Spielberg wanted to show a lighter, funnier side of Indy. In Raiders, Ford has a boldness which reminds me of 1940s actors, but with a dark, sly overtone which makes him so unique.
Has anyone won an Oscar after winning the Lifetime Achievement Award?
Paul Newman, if I remember well.
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#35
Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:57 PM
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
#36
Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:54 PM
................

John Williams CD Series
Which JW scores let you feel summer, winter, autumn and spring
#37
Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:26 PM
Still, ultimately he's 50% Han Solo and 50% Indiana Jones.
#38
Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:04 PM
#39
Posted 06 June 2012 - 02:34 AM
#40
Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:03 AM
He exhibits a Bogart quality in Raiders.
Even though I've never been a Bogart fan, that's probably the quality that I like so much about the character in Raiders. It's a quality that's sorely lacking in the later films. There are moments when it's there, but a lot of the time, Indy is off doing or saying stuff that the Raiders Indy simply never would have done or said. I like the character best in his original incarnation, which Ford absolutely nailed.
Damn, now I need to watch Raiders.
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