Rachael Foley 10,162 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Which of these do you prefer? and why?I like First Contacts theme, but the middle section drags a bit for me, and the quotations of the TOS themes seem clipped.Insurrection is like a game of "spot the Quest/Adversity Motif" with love motif and such.Nemesis is pretty good once you make the connection of what all the themes are (for example: Shinzon's theme)
stewdog1 50 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 First Contact with its gorgeous main theme, then Insurrection with its excellent action music followed up by Nemesis action music which seemed like a natural extension from the Insurrection action. I loved the flourishes of the Enterprise theme in Nemesis. Jerry really knocked it out of the park with those.Generations I actually like a whole lot. It is definitely worthy of being placed with Jerry and Horner's music.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I listened to Nemesis a few times and promptly mailed it to Hoorn, sadly Stefan never received it, or should I say fortunately?Overall I prefer Insurrection over First Contact score wise.Film wise I but FC, Insurrection, Generations, and Nemesis in the order.Generations might have been good if they hadn't let Kirk die such a pathetic death. I should like to mourn the Captain, but alas his death was to comical to cry.
Wojo 2,458 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Captain Kirk didn't stay dead long. The Romulans told the Borg where his body lay, and they reanimated him to wreak havoc on the Federation. Fortunately, Admiral McCoy was able to reunite Spock with Kirk, and because Spock had touched Borg technology in V'Ger, he was able to cure Kirk of his condition and bring him back to the good side, and he eventually went and destroyed the Borg homeworld.Yeah, that was a novel written by The Shat, but what a fine yarn it was.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Captain Kirk didn't stay dead long. The Romulans told the Borg where his body lay, and they reanimated him to wreak havoc on the Federation. Fortunately, Admiral McCoy was able to reunite Spock with Kirk, and because Spock had touched Borg technology in V'Ger, he was able to cure Kirk of his condition and bring him back to the good side, and he eventually went and destroyed the Borg homeworld.Yeah, that was a novel written by The Shat, but what a fine yarn it was.I've read that and enjoyed it. But unfortunately its' not official canon. Still what a sh**ty way to go. And Soran was such a stupid villain, why not just fly a ship into the Nexus like it happened to you originally. But like the idiot villain in Star Trek 2009 it's better to destroy entire planets than to do what's smart and easy.
Wojo 2,458 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Why not assume that everything up until Picard's entry into the Nexus occurs as filmed, but then just have Picard leave the Nexus while Soran is still a "guest" of the Enterprise, and either arrest him or put an energy bolt between his eyes? That way, you prevent Geordi's embarrassing (and at least second instance in the TNG timeline) VISOR violation, the destruction of the -D, and Captain Kirk can just stay in the Nexus and keep his quasi-honorable death legacy intact, when everyone thinks he saved the -B from destruction.Oh. Because it was a bad script and that's what it made him do, because Kirk *had* to die and the -D *had* to be destroyed so they could build an -E.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I was more bummed by the destruction of the D than the death of Kirk.
Wojo 2,458 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I was bummed when I got the floor plans of the -D from Santa one year and saw there were cetecean tanks in the stardrive that were, of course, never showed or mentioned. Whether Lursa and B'tor actually caused the death of whales and dolphins in space, they were there as a gag reference to Star Trek IV, or Rick Sternbach intended them to be built in case the -D ever needed to carry some whales or dolphins in the future (or the past), will forever remain a mystery.
Trent B 354 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 There's not a single Star Trek TNG film score that I don't dislike or hate. Then again there's not a single Star Trek film score that I don't hate or dislike. I myself prefer the complete versions of said scores. All though a complete version of Generations never leaked, hopefully our friends from GNP will release it since they have had a major success with Star Trek First Contact's complete score.
crocodile 9,724 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 All of Goldsmith scores are about at the same level for me. Each one of them has different strengths.I'm not familiar with Generations, film or score.Karol
Trent B 354 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Only in your opinion(s). Others like it, not everyone hates it. So don't say something such as "Don't waste your time" to someone who hasn't heard it.
Wojo 2,458 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Anyone who doesn't realize that mine and his comments were opinions needs to retake fourth grade reading class.That...that was also an opinion.
crocodile 9,724 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Tell you what, I'll give it a listen while ironing (or something). That way I won't waste time!Karol <-- clever lad
Wojo 2,458 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I only listen to Iron Man when I iron. Debney, Didyawaddy, Sabbath, doesn't matter.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I've been posting at Jwfan for a long time and if people don't get that I'm an opinionated SOB then that's their problem.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now