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The argument for and against: REMAKES


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#41 Joey

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:48 AM

oh no the 76 film is clearly the 3rd.
too bloody

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:53 AM

It has Charles Grodin completely hamming it up, Bridges the most heroic leading man and easily the most attractive of the three women.

For every Gus Van Saint scene-for-scene carbon copy of Psycho (sans the wit and soul of the Hitchcock original)


I'm going to address this shit, because you brought it up. You immediately reminded me of this. Gus Van Sant's Psycho was not a shot-for-shot remake, but they billed it as such in the promotion? Hitchcock never showed all this random shit during the murders like cows on a rural highway and naked blindfolded chicks, or whatever...? A scene was even missing from the remake. I mean, I just feel ripped off because it wasn't genuinely done shot-for-shot. If he wasn't going to go all the way, why did he even bother to place such restrictions on his film to begin with? What a complete and total disaster, as Donald Trump would so eloquently put it.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:33 AM

Is that film unique in that it's designed to be an almost exact copy of the original? It's amazing really how anyone ever thought such a thing could work.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

Ah yes, I forgot about the Psycho remake - I've seen most of that. I thought it was effective, but in the context of... why did they make it?

I'm not entirely sure when it's set (50s/60s?) but somehow the murkier, B/W look of the original lends itself more to the isolated feel of the story, and there's nothing like having Herrmann himself, rather than Elfman channelling him.

I like the performances too - Vaughn is very creepy, and Macy is very inquisitive; a refreshing contrast to his Fargo character. Overall, I think there's nothing really very wrong with it - it just feels completely superfluous to me.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:01 PM

I personally can't wait for the remake of JWFan, with new and upgraded CG forum members, like Quint 2.0, Hyper Incanus and MechaCremers.


No Ren :(


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:37 PM

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 02:08 PM

Get back into life!
I suggest a full frontal assault with automated laser monkeys, scalpel mines, and acid.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 03:34 PM


I personally can't wait for the remake of JWFan, with new and upgraded CG forum members, like Quint 2.0, Hyper Incanus and MechaCremers.


No Ren :(


I didn't mention you because I thought it was obvious you'd be in the remake! Renovia X Alpha2, with upgraded curves and CG boobies!


Three x's plz. ;)

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 12:50 AM

I'll argue that John Carpenter's the Thing is not superior to the original Howard Hawks' The Thing from Another World. Both are great films, but I will always prefer the 50's version over the gore fest that is the '82 version. Both are terrific ensemble pieces, but the newer version is more nihilistic and it's more a showcase for Rob Bottin's effects which being practical stand the test of time quite well. It's hard to criticize the movie because it's very good at what it does. I guess for me the big difference is tone and structure. I simply prefer the idea's presented in the original. It's more of a straight on monster film than the 82 version which is more of a mystery tale with some gross and terrific monster effects. Sorry Koray, but I also prefer Dimitri Tiomkins score to Morricone's score.

No argument here, it's a classic, but Carpenter's take is my favorite horror film. He, along with Morricone, just nailed the atmosphere of that film perfectly.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.





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