It's been awhile since we've done one of these. The topic is JW's film scores written during his semi-retirement (2008 and on).
I'd rank them like this:
1. War Horse
2. KotCS
3. Tintin
Time for a good ol' fashion poll
Started by indy4, Jul 04 2012 10:57 PM
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:57 PM
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1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:01 PM
1. Tintin.
2. War Horse
3. Indy 4.
The reason why Tinting comes first is because it is a much younger version of Spielberg adventure than Indy 4 and it works bette in the film than WH (which is better as pure music).
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2. War Horse
3. Indy 4.
The reason why Tinting comes first is because it is a much younger version of Spielberg adventure than Indy 4 and it works bette in the film than WH (which is better as pure music).
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:11 PM
Slight edge given to War Horse. Tintin is wonderful as well. I don't even remember KotCS anymore.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:22 PM
1. Tintin
2. War Horse
Don't know the third option,never listened it through.
2. War Horse
Don't know the third option,never listened it through.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:37 PM
Tintin for me.
Still haven't watched War Horse.
Still haven't watched War Horse.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:11 AM
I like all 3 scores, but I definitely go back to War Horse a hell of a lot more than the other two. Less than a year after its release, I think I would honestly include Joey running through No Man's Land as one of the top ten great Spielberg/Williams moments. Definitely top fifteen, anyway.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:17 AM
Crystal Skull by far
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:10 AM
War Horse by a mile. Tougher for me to choose between the other two, but Tintin would most likely come out ahead overall, and it definitely would win in the creativity department.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:59 AM
Can't really decide. None of them are really that great. I wouldn't want to choose between any of them, frankly. I'd rather listen to his older stuff.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:17 AM
Tintin, for me. It's the one I'm revisiting the most, right now... War Horse comes a close second, and KOTCS third.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:39 AM
There's a fourth Indiana Jones movie?!
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:52 AM
I have to say Tintin for me! War Horse is a very close second. As for KotCS I think my dislike of the movie effected my judgment on the score but to me it's like the Chamber of Secrets, I pretend it doesn't exist haha.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:00 AM
1) War Horse
2) Tintin
3) KOTCS
There is a very tiny margin between War Horse and Tintin. A rather large one between Tintin and KotCS though...
But they're all good scores.
2) Tintin
3) KOTCS
There is a very tiny margin between War Horse and Tintin. A rather large one between Tintin and KotCS though...
But they're all good scores.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:24 AM
There's a fourth Indiana Jones movie?!
Yeah, it's called The Adventures Of Tintin: The Secret Of The Unicorn.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:34 AM
1. War Horse
2. Tintin.
3. Indy 4
I've come around. I consider WH to be better now (at least for me). But Tintin is awesome beyond words too! Indy 4 is okay. Not bad, but not that great either, apart from a few standalone cues.
2. Tintin.
3. Indy 4
I've come around. I consider WH to be better now (at least for me). But Tintin is awesome beyond words too! Indy 4 is okay. Not bad, but not that great either, apart from a few standalone cues.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:22 AM
Can't really decide. None of them are really that great. I wouldn't want to choose between any of them, frankly. I'd rather listen to his older stuff.
That!
The more quirky old stuff, that is. These 3 scores contain a lot of generic action cues. I've heard this so many times before.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:17 AM
1) War Horse
2) Tintin
3) KOTCS
There is a very tiny margin between Tintin and KOTCS. A rather large one between WH and Tintin though...
2) Tintin
3) KOTCS
There is a very tiny margin between Tintin and KOTCS. A rather large one between WH and Tintin though...
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:56 AM
War Horse by quite a bit, then further away Tintin and a very close third KotCS
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:18 PM
Tintin for me as I personally think its one of his best works and a modern masterpiece. Probably the best score I have heard since Ponyo.
War Horse is good but a very fragmented listening experiecence. The first and last thrids are completely different from the middle portion making it very disjointed. Also the WH themes are slightly simplistic and pastoral, not having the verve or imagintion of some of his best themes. But a nice work.
Indy 4 is also an enjoyable score. I would probably rank it second out of the 3.
War Horse is good but a very fragmented listening experiecence. The first and last thrids are completely different from the middle portion making it very disjointed. Also the WH themes are slightly simplistic and pastoral, not having the verve or imagintion of some of his best themes. But a nice work.
Indy 4 is also an enjoyable score. I would probably rank it second out of the 3.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:25 PM
I like them all.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:27 PM
KOTCS is the only John Williams score that I hated so much, I traded it in for pennies on the dollar.
...wait for it...
...wait for it...
I suggest a full frontal assault with automated laser monkeys, scalpel mines, and acid.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:14 PM
1) War Horse
2) Tintin
3) KOTCS
There is a very tiny margin between Tintin and KOTCS. A rather large one between WH and Tintin though...
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:25 PM
I still haven't listened to TinTin yet.
I suggest a full frontal assault with automated laser monkeys, scalpel mines, and acid.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:41 PM
it's very good and it grows on you
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:43 PM
I prefer Tintin. It's a very creative score. It kind of goes back to his jazz roots, especially the main title cue. I was in love with it from the very first time that i heard it.
However, i must say that War Horse is a wonderful score as well. It fit the film very well.
i wouldn't say that KOTCS is a bad score, but it's too meaningless for me. There are some stand out cues, like the warehouse scenes, "The Jungle Chase", "A Whirl Through Academe", "Ants!", "The Departure", but i don't really like the rest. It's certainly not his worst score.
However, i must say that War Horse is a wonderful score as well. It fit the film very well.
i wouldn't say that KOTCS is a bad score, but it's too meaningless for me. There are some stand out cues, like the warehouse scenes, "The Jungle Chase", "A Whirl Through Academe", "Ants!", "The Departure", but i don't really like the rest. It's certainly not his worst score.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:58 PM
1.- The Adventures Of Tintin
2.- War Horse
3.- Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of Crystal Skull
2.- War Horse
3.- Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of Crystal Skull
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:01 PM
I like KOTCS because John has some fun with the music. His ending of the end titles is just awesome. It's a delightful twist.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:03 PM
Absolutely. One of his most interesting End Titles in a looong time. The end statement of the Raiders March still gives me chills.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:54 PM
you stated my exact feelings.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:58 PM
I prefer War Horse by a mile.
Tintin I respect as a score, but it's not my style for the most part.
KotCS has some amazing parts, but also has many parts that bore me to death.
Tintin I respect as a score, but it's not my style for the most part.
KotCS has some amazing parts, but also has many parts that bore me to death.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:35 AM
Yeah, that part of KOTCS is good and right at the end. Much of the score is quite boring and by-the-books as far as Williams music goes. KOTCS has some of the most uninteresting music for a JW blockbuster.
There is fun to be had in Tintin, but I still rarely go back to it outside certain tracks. Tracks. I haven't listened through the thing since around the time it came out.. Same goes for War Horse. I don't know what the deal is.
There is fun to be had in Tintin, but I still rarely go back to it outside certain tracks. Tracks. I haven't listened through the thing since around the time it came out.. Same goes for War Horse. I don't know what the deal is.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:41 AM
I could do without the corny comedy ending of KotS End Titles. It suits the movie, which is the problem. What happened in the time between Raiders and this? The tone of those last few seconds doesn't feel like an Indiana Jones movie to me, it feels more like fluffy Young Indy score.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:04 AM
The more quirky old stuff, that is. These 3 scores contain a lot of generic action cues. I've heard this so many times before.
Comments like these have become so much more generic than any Williams score could ever be.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:28 AM
Yeah, the mystery of why Alex still visits this place remains. Oh I've just remembered he enjoys the company, or something like that.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:31 AM
He likes being surrounded by intellectual inferiours. I agree with him.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:34 AM
Aye, ye old narcissistic superiority complex.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:48 AM
Well considering the members here....
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Ouch!
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:52 AM
Not you Ren. Though I'm still staggered you elected to stay.. I am sure Alan still doesnt quite believe it.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 02:45 PM
The more quirky old stuff, that is. These 3 scores contain a lot of generic action cues. I've heard this so many times before.
Comments like these have become so much more generic than any Williams score could ever be.
A worrisome evolution. It doesn't need to be so.
Anyway, you are obviously a blind fan. I am not. I'm happy he still writes music but I regret his choice to work only for Spielberg. I just watched Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and wished Williams would do these type of movies. Now, I'm going to say something that you will not understand but an artist should be picky about the projects he chooses, not about the people.
Pictures, visual images, are far better to achieve that end than any words, particularly now, when the world has lost all mystery and magic and speech has become mere chatter, empty of meaning - Andrei Tarkovsky
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