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[Chaac]

I originally thought it was "Deshi Deshi Basura Basura"... But I prefer the Moussaka version better.

«Bane, Bane mátalo, mátalo, Bane, Bane, mátalo, mátalo...»

[BloodBoal]

Hehehe... That would have been quite awesome (well, if Bane's character was Spanish).

[Chaac]

I think he is from the Caribbean region in the comic books but I'm not sure.

[BloodBoal]

Yeah, sure, and Bruce is of Italian descent. "Bruccio" is his real name.

[Chaac]

I just checked and I'm right!

[BloodBoal]

Santa Prisca?! That doesn't even exist!

[Chaac]

lol they invent places in the Caribbean and South America all the time. Costaguana. San Teodoros. Etc.

[BloodBoal]

Well, Spanish-sounding country names are quite easy to come up with. You just have to use San/Santo/Santa/Costa and add a spanish-sounding word after that.

Santo Perro, Santa Cuchara, Costa Palabra... See, it's easy!

[Chaac]

[Ro Sajooc]

I originally thought it was "Deshi Deshi Basura Basura"... But I prefer the Moussaka version better.

«Bane, Bane mátalo, mátalo, Bane, Bane, mátalo, mátalo...»

It sounds a bit odd, but I think it would have worked well in the spanish dubbing.

[Hurmm]

Not quite on topic, but check out this interview of Tom Waits. Sounds familiar? (skip to the 1:30 mark)



Btw, how do I embed youtube videos?

Edit: never mind, it embeds automatically.

[MSM]

SawDark Knight Rises yesterday...appeared to be a three hours documentary on terrorism - not exactly my thing. Batman didn't even have the chance to shine, being beaten twice by Bane (who's appeared to be a whining puppet in the last moment). Screenplay big chaos. Music as generic as it comes. Very low entertaining value. All pointless.
Disappointing, 5 out of 10. BB I would still rate 8.5 out of 10.

I absolutely hated the fact at the end when they tried to humanize Bane. There was no need for that.

I thought it strengthened the character, personally. After having a main antagonist in TDK that was hardly even a person at all with Joker without any room for sympathy, it was nice to have a villain with some semblance of a heart underneath the monstrous exterior. I thought Hardy really sold it with the tears. It also kind of puts Bane's motives in a whole new light in so much as he was trying to honor Talia through fulfilling what her father set out to do.

Yet he hated her father because he was expelled from the League?? No logic.

[Hurmm]

So it seems TDKR made about $65m this weekend. Wow that's a steep drop. It's tracking way below TDK each day except for the opening day.

[crocodile]

It still made 537 million worldwide in about 9 days.

Karol

[Wycket]

I know we want more action, more fights, louder music etc. from the sequels but this "more violence" goes too far.

You'd get along with my mom. She loathes TDK, specifically its violent and dark nature. She thought it should've received an R-rating instead of the PG-13 it got here in the United States.

Honestly, I felt TDKR is more tamer than TDK. Even with Bane snapping necks and bashing heads in.

Sadly, I agree with your mom on the R rating... actually, if it had any blood it should have been R. It was pretty close to getting there though.

Give me a break. Most of the violence in this film is implied and the language is pretty tame as well.

You don't want to show your kids movies you don't approve of, fine, but don't try to force everyone to have to follow your rules. Movie ratings really need to be reevaluated, as everyone has different views and the ones that the MPAA seem to hold can be quite ridiculous at times and movies are suffering because studios are so intent on getting that PG-13 that movies suffer because of it. I still am having trouble figuring out why ROTS was PG-13, as the burning body wasn't even that graphic and I am sure that if I saw that as a 7 year old I wouldn't think much differently than I did at 18.

[Henry Buck]

Loved this movie. What a satisfying way to tie things together. I like that everything came full circle, every past element was brought to completion (well, except for the Joker, of course). It's a little less self-reliant than TDK was, but that's acceptable for a final act. I'm so glad that Nolan finally made a good third film. Seriously, when has that ever happened before?

The only bad part was "Get the president on the phone!" I almost laughed at loud. Truly terrible. No big deal though! Oh, and I wish there had been more violence. More blood, anyway. It was a little unbelievable to see so many people die without a drop of blood. The sanitization was almost at a KOTCS level. But, unlike that film, this film still depicted the violence really well.

[Smeagol]

Was anyone else bothered by the fact that there was no music during Batman and Bane's first fight?

That was the one thing that took me out of the movie.

[Chaac]

I think that was an excellent choice, particularly after the absurdly loud mix when Batman and the Cat are going through the tunnels.

[Ro Sajooc]

Yeah! That scene is perfect without music.

[stewdog1]

I think that was an excellent choice, particularly after the absurdly loud mix when Batman and the Cat are going through the tunnels.

What? I can't hear you!

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[crocodile]

Was anyone else bothered by the fact that there was no music during Batman and Bane's first fight?

That was the one thing that took me out of the movie.

The uncomfortable "fish out of the water" feeling was I think was exactly the reason why they went for that. One of the best scenes in the film, if you ask me.

Karol

[Chaac]

It's one of the best scenes in the film together with Selina's fake screaming and Bane trapping all the cops underground.

[crocodile]

I like the whole bar scene with Selina. Anne Hathaway is brilliant in it. And I really like the way she suddenly turns at the beginning of the film. That one shot when she says "oops". Inspired casting choice. Who would have thought I'd ever say that?

Karol

[gkgyver]

Was anyone else bothered by the fact that there was no music during Batman and Bane's first fight?

That was the one thing that took me out of the movie.

It probably took you out of the movie becasue the score is otherwise so irritatingly loud.

[Chaac]

I like the whole bar scene with Selina. Anne Hathaway is brilliant in it. And I really like the way she suddenly turns at the beginning of the film. That one shot when she says "oops". Inspired casting choice. Who would have thought I'd ever say that?

Karol

Yes I like her scenes a lot. Like the epic eyeroll when John Blake says they can offer her protection. I wasn't sure at first about the actress but seeing the film I was convinced.

[crocodile]

Oh I also like the scene at the charity ball.

Karol

[KK.]

Generally the scenes with Selina Kyle were great. I enjoyed her intro, and I loved the bar scene. Bane in the first half was fantastic, but he soon loses the audience's interest. And I loved the scene with Bane breaking Batman's back.

It's a little less self-reliant than TDK was, but that's acceptable for a final act. I'm so glad that Nolan finally made a good third film. Seriously, when has that ever happened before?

Uhmm, plenty of times. The following were better made third films:
- Return of the King
- Bourne Ultimatum
- The Good, the Bad, the Ugly
- Toy Story 3

Having said that however, TDKR is a satisfying (yet disappointing) conclusion.

[Chaac]

The Last Crusade too, for me.

[Smeagol]

It probably took you out of the movie becasue the score is otherwise so irritatingly loud.

That could be it. When the score wasn't there, it was quite obvious. I was thinking more about the dramatic impact (not that the scene isn't dramatic on its own, it just seemed like an odd place to decide not to have music). I kept waiting for some epic fighting music to happen.

The uncomfortable "fish out of the water" feeling was I think was exactly the reason why they went for that. One of the best scenes in the film, if you ask me.
Karol

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the scene isn't good or effective because it didn't have music, but I don't think what you're saying is the reason. I mean, Nolan did the exact same thing during the Harvey/Joker chase scene in TDK, where most (if not all, I can't remember right now) of that sequence had no score. Again, it just seemed like an odd decision.

Is there a similar sequence in BB, where something important is happening but there's no music? I can't remember.

[Red Rabbit]

SawDark Knight Rises yesterday...appeared to be a three hours documentary on terrorism - not exactly my thing. Batman didn't even have the chance to shine, being beaten twice by Bane (who's appeared to be a whining puppet in the last moment). Screenplay big chaos. Music as generic as it comes. Very low entertaining value. All pointless.
Disappointing, 5 out of 10. BB I would still rate 8.5 out of 10.

I absolutely hated the fact at the end when they tried to humanize Bane. There was no need for that.

I thought it strengthened the character, personally. After having a main antagonist in TDK that was hardly even a person at all with Joker without any room for sympathy, it was nice to have a villain with some semblance of a heart underneath the monstrous exterior. I thought Hardy really sold it with the tears. It also kind of puts Bane's motives in a whole new light in so much as he was trying to honor Talia through fulfilling what her father set out to do.

Yet he hated her father because he was expelled from the League?? No logic.

At no point does he express hatred for Ra's. He explicitly states more than once that he wants to fulfill Ghul's destiny by destroying Gotham.

[gkgyver]

Well, I reserved my final judgement on the film until I've seen it twice, and today was the second time.

Ok, here it comes.
This movie is fucking epic. As much as I dislike the music, the films themselves are, in my not so humble opinion, modern classics, and they could rightfully be called the best superhero films ever made (yes, sorry, Mr. Donner).
That Batman does not get a lot of screentime doesn't bother me one bit, because the story is interesting, and excitingly told.
Amazing Spider-Man was good, but I'm afraid this is just miles ahead. Anne Hathaway is fantastic as Selina Kyle.
I also liked how they carefully prepared a possibility for Batman and Robin, even if it's a fictitious continuation since Nolan won't do another one.

While the film is fucking epic, the music is a fucking mess.
The most effective choice of music in the movie could very well be the lack thereof in the first fight between Bane and Batman. It doesn't add to scenes, no nuance can be found in the heap of the always same electronics and low block chords. There was one effective scene with music in it in the whole film, and that was "Why Do We Fall". It simply dupilcates what is on screen, not very elegantly so, and at times not even that.
Also, I find that the spotting was the worst of all three films, especially in the first 2/3 of the movie. And in the last third, there is so much action that you can copy-paste anything in there.
If there ever was an example of how ridiculous overscoring can hurt a film, this is it. In the beginning already, when Selina and Bruce meet, the score is so crushingly unsubtle.

It's like every scene with people talking is scored with slow, soft dramatic chords, and every action scene wuth fast, loud dramatic chords.
There is no feeling for scene pacing, for the flow of sequences ... Easily the worst of the three scores.

The two note motif doesn't change, ever, so Zimmer's talk about it "now making some sense" is trash talk. If a musical piece does not develop on its own from beginning to end, there is no chance for it to ever "make sense" on its own, it can simply and humbly accept whatever meaning the movie gives it.

[Taikomochi]

I guess I'm alone in saying I generally liked the score. Thought the film was a disappointing mess, though. I was a BB/TDK fanboy, so I came into the film wanting to love it, but... They just made it so hard. Talk about unfocused ambition.

[indy4]

I thought it was good. Unoriginal, but good. And it worked wonders for the film.

[Ren]

Well, I reserved my final judgement on the film until I've seen it twice, and today was the second time.

Ok, here it comes.
This movie is fucking epic. As much as I dislike the music, the films themselves are, in my not so humble opinion, modern classics, and they could rightfully be called the best superhero films ever made (yes, sorry, Mr. Donner).
That Batman does not get a lot of screentime doesn't bother me one bit, because the story is interesting, and excitingly told.
Amazing Spider-Man was good, but I'm afraid this is just miles ahead. Anne Hathaway is fantastic as Selina Kyle.
I also liked how they carefully prepared a possibility for Batman and Robin, even if it's a fictitious continuation since Nolan won't do another one.

While the film is fucking epic, the music is a fucking mess.
The most effective choice of music in the movie could very well be the lack thereof in the first fight between Bane and Batman. It doesn't add to scenes, no nuance can be found in the heap of the always same electronics and low block chords. There was one effective scene with music in it in the whole film, and that was "Why Do We Fall". It simply dupilcates what is on screen, not very elegantly so, and at times not even that.
Also, I find that the spotting was the worst of all three films, especially in the first 2/3 of the movie. And in the last third, there is so much action that you can copy-paste anything in there.
If there ever was an example of how ridiculous overscoring can hurt a film, this is it. In the beginning already, when Selina and Bruce meet, the score is so crushingly unsubtle.

It's like every scene with people talking is scored with slow, soft dramatic chords, and every action scene wuth fast, loud dramatic chords.
There is no feeling for scene pacing, for the flow of sequences ... Easily the worst of the three scores.

The two note motif doesn't change, ever, so Zimmer's talk about it "now making some sense" is trash talk. If a musical piece does not develop on its own from beginning to end, there is no chance for it to ever "make sense" on its own, it can simply and humbly accept whatever meaning the movie gives it.

Epic
Epic
Epic

Overuse.

[KK.]

Watched the film for the third time on IMAX last night. This film is great in IMAX, but watching it again, I once again noticed all its flaws and just wish the film was better than it was. Regardless, it's a fun blockbuster.

I thought it was good. Unoriginal, but good. And it worked wonders for the film.

Worked wonders?! Say that for the other Batman scores sure, but Zimmer's score was awful in context. So many "cut and paste" tracks that completely glossed over sync points in the film. Watching it the third time, I was incredibly surprised at how often Zimmer missed the mark. The previous films had far better scores than this one.

[Chaac]

TDK's score was much more adjusted to the film and worked well. This one doesn't. The only part where I remember positivelly noticing the score on film were Wayne's attempts to get out of the pit, inluding the final statement of the two note idea once he's out.

We should have a poll about Catwoman themes.

[crocodile]

I'm contemplating giving this film a fifth chance. I'm certainly seeing it in IMAX again, as it was quite an amazing way to watch a film.

Karol

[Stefancos]

If you dont like a film, why go and see it 3 or 5 times?

[Chaac]

I would guess he likes the film?

[crocodile]

Who said I didn't like it?

Karol