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#81 Wojo

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

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@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:07 PM

Wow, this is awful. This is why we need stricter gun control laws in the US.

you're going political here, not allowed,
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:08 PM


Wow, this is awful. This is why we need stricter gun control laws in the US.

you're going political here, not allowed,

People have been talking about capitol punishment since page 1, I'm not the one who made it political.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:14 PM

I went there, too. Let's agree to stop this before it gets out of hand. A) we all know you like to get political and I like to egg you on, and 2) whatever happens to him and gun control is out of our hands.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:18 PM

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:22 PM

JWFANers being reasonable? What's next? Filmtracks members saying good things about JWFANers?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:22 PM

You know what, if you want to take away my right to carry a firearm because it may kill someone, than you may as well ban all spoons for making people fat. It's the same fucking logic. Idiots.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

I could kill you with a spoon.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

Williamsfan301...cork it. Let's not screw up this thin ice thread, shall we?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

I could kill you with a spoon.

It's quite simple to achieve that.


JWFANers being reasonable? What's next? Filmtracks members saying good things about JWFANers?

I've said nice things about you guys plenty of times ;)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:29 PM


I could kill you with a spoon.

It's quite simple to achieve that.


Prove it!


JWFANers being reasonable? What's next? Filmtracks members saying good things about JWFANers?

I've said nice things about you guys plenty of times ;)


Yeah, but you're more of an hybrid creature. Neither JWFANer nor Filmtracker, yet both at the same time...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:30 PM


I could kill you with a spoon.

It's quite simple to achieve that.


Yes. I don't know why some people use the spoon example as something that doesn't kill.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:33 PM

What would you want them to use? A tampon?

I could kill you with a tampon.

Doesn't sound that good, does it?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:39 PM

You know what, if you want to take away my right to carry a firearm because it may kill someone, than you may as well ban all spoons for making people fat. It's the same fucking logic. Idiots.


I'm aiming the crosshaires of my teaspoon at your head right now.

Dumbest post I think I've ever read here, and that's saying a lot.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:40 PM

BB, I could kill you with a tampon.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:41 PM

What a glorious death that would be!

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:46 PM



I could kill you with a spoon.

It's quite simple to achieve that.


Prove it!

Alright.
  • Numero Uno: If you sharpen the edge of the spoon, you may proceed to stab a man, woman, small child or baby animal (or, if you're suicidal, YOU....) in the throat. If that person/baby animal/you has an Adam's Apple, well then, it's your lucky day! Unless you're suicidal. Then you're dead. Because you made yourself..........dead. Retard.
  • Number Two: Slap the man in the balls. Haha. Balls.
  • Number Three: Jab the spoon in the person/baby animal/you's guts.
  • Intermission: Hahaha, baby animals getting killed with a spoon.
  • Number Five (I cheated during the Intermission, yeah, I can do that): Shove the spoon down their throat.
  • Number Six: Stab them in the spine. Either it'll paralyze them or kill them. Painfully.
  • Number Seven: Stab them through their rib cage.
  • Number Eight: Just plain out stab them. Duh.
  • Number Nine:Somehow manage to load the spoon in a gun and shoot the son's a bitches.
  • Number Ten: Shove the spoon through a person's nose or eyes and reach the brain, poke it, jab it, and wait till they're dead.
See? Easy ;)



JWFANers being reasonable? What's next? Filmtracks members saying good things about JWFANers?

I've said nice things about you guys plenty of times ;)


Yeah, but you're more of an hybrid creature. Neither JWFANer nor Filmtracker, yet both at the same time...


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:55 PM

:crymore:

that's scary. I don't know if I want to talk with you anymore

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:57 PM



BB, I could kill you with a tampon.


Good lord. What's in your tampons?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:58 PM

vodka....

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:59 PM

:crymore:

that's scary. I don't know if I want to talk with you anymore


Don't look at me! I'm not the psychopath you should be blaming.
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He is!

vodka....


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:59 PM

Does that actually work to get ya drunk?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:00 PM




JWFANers being reasonable? What's next? Filmtracks members saying good things about JWFANers?

I've said nice things about you guys plenty of times ;)


Yeah, but you're more of an hybrid creature. Neither JWFANer nor Filmtracker, yet both at the same time...


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Yeah, right. Like Dr. Kalaichelvan and Mister Kalaisan

:crymore:

that's scary. I don't know if I want to talk with you anymore


I agree. BAN THE SPOON FREAK! BAN HIM! BURN HIM!

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

Yes. I don't know why some people use the spoon example as something that doesn't kill.


Because the spoon is a TOOL for putting food into your mouth. Putting more food into your mouth than is healthy makes people fat.

A gun is a TOOL that delivers a piece of metal at tremendous speed towards an object, and can be not just unhealthy, but fatal.

The spoon is a metaphor for people who don't want to think that people should have a certain degree of personal responsibility for their life choices. It's weak because nobody holds another spoon to your head and forces you to eat, and some really fat people have swallowed their spoon at some point and just shovel the rest in with their hands.

But to blame the gun is to relieve the shooter of personal responsibility, and blame the device that allowed them to commit the crime, rather than the decisions and circumstances that led them to the state of mind where they woke up one day and said, "you know what, I want to execute people today, commando-style." The gun is a means to the end but not the whole story.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:06 PM

Does that actually work to get ya drunk?


yes, we had a meeting about it at school

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:10 PM

On 1001 Ways to Die, a severe alcoholic brought his wife a funnel, rubber tube, and bottle of vodka after he had had surgery on his mouth/throat and could no longer drink the liquid. He asked it to pour it into his body in the manner you're not supposed to talk about at parties, and he died of extreme alcohol poisoning as it was absorbed directly from his colon into his bloodstream, bypassing the liver. A very painful death. Humiliating, too.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

You know what, if you want to take away my right to carry a firearm because it may kill someone, than you may as well ban all spoons for making people fat. It's the same fucking logic. Idiots.

Since when do bad guys use spoons to kill innocent people? That's the (pretty darn obvious) difference.


But to blame the gun is to relieve the shooter of personal responsibility, and blame the device that allowed them to commit the crime, rather than the decisions and circumstances that led them to the state of mind where they woke up one day and said, "you know what, I want to execute people today, commando-style." The gun is a means to the end but not the whole story.



True, but gun regulations is an easier fix than whatever complex mental/societal issues motivated this crime. You won't be solving the root of the issue but you'll at least be trimming back the flowers.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

The things people do for drugs. Give me a martini and a man and some techno and life is good

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:23 PM


You know what, if you want to take away my right to carry a firearm because it may kill someone, than you may as well ban all spoons for making people fat. It's the same fucking logic. Idiots.


I'm aiming the crosshaires of my teaspoon at your head right now.

Dumbest post I think I've ever read here, and that's saying a lot.


Seriously. The ignorane of a statement like that worries me.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:24 PM


Does that actually work to get ya drunk?


yes, we had a meeting about it at school


Do you believe everything you hear?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:31 PM

Lol. No... ;-)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:33 PM

Bah. All this gun control is too political for my totally straight-laced, non-confrontational, and play-by-the-JWFan-rulebook nature.

I'm more curious about what I could use with the vodka. Wait, that didn't sound right either. Damnit.

Edited by Wojo, 20 July 2012 - 09:54 PM.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:56 PM

Not your day Wojo? ;)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:47 PM

You know that will NEVER happen...EVER. Not even after if 1,000 people were killed by a single person using a legally purchased military assault rifle.....because it's in the constitution! So the massacres will continue.

Wow, this is awful. This is why we need stricter gun control laws in the US.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:05 PM

Not your day Wojo? ;)


It could've been worse.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:07 PM

Christopher Nolan's statement.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:15 AM

Hans Zimmer's statement.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 06:17 AM

In this day and age it would be good to implement the old fashioned Roman damnatio memoriae, cursing of the memory, and wipe all knowledge of these criminals from record, in essence wipe them from the face of the earth as if they had never existed. At least it would not fuel any cases or glorify the perpetrators of such tragedies as media does so often now, especially if the carcass of such a case can be picked for a good while from all possible angles.


Kind of like the fear factor of always referring to Voldemort as "You Know Who"? Seems to defeat the purpose of learning from history.

Anyway, I probably won't let this incident taint my future viewings of this fine film, which I'm seeing again tonight. All the kneejerk reactions from gun-grabbers and people calling out for TSA style screenings and gropings at cinemas has me more concerned about escalating and further emcompassing fascism in America than lone angry nuts with guns.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 06:20 AM

Gropings at cinemas? I guess after a number of dates, it'd be ok. Might be better to just save the ticket price and go elsewhere, though.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 06:55 AM

It's very sad what happened

I was wondering how it would affect future movies, if film makers would be afraid to push boundaries. But this was rated PG-13, so they can't really say extreme explicit violence on screen caused this. It could have happened with an Indiana Jones film




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