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[Quint]

I'm just waiting for them to find violent video games in his apartment.

[king mark]

yeah, it would suck if they start censoring games because of this nut case.

They said he bought 6000 rounds of ammo on the internet and 4 assault rifles, so it seems he planned this for a while. It seems that the discussion is going to be veering more towards gun control than violence in films

[Ren]

Gropings at cinemas? I guess after a number of dates, it'd be ok. Might be better to just save the ticket price and go elsewhere, though.

Better yet, a club, or my place.

[BloodBoal]

I'm just waiting for them to find violent video games in his apartment.

Yeah, and his computer turned on, with his internet browser displaying a JWFAN forum page.

[Wojo]

Gropings at cinemas? I guess after a number of dates, it'd be ok. Might be better to just save the ticket price and go elsewhere, though.

Better yet, a club, or my place.

Yes, that's a better idea.

[KK.]

Sounds like this kid is trying to be some crazy Joker like character...

Shooter looked like and said he was the Joker.

What did I tell ya folks?

A storm is coming, and Nolan's latest film is right in its way. How unfortunate.

[Stefancos]

My sympathies to those who lost a loved one in this appalling tragedy.

Some of you in this thread should be ashamed of yourselves!

[Ren]

Gropings at cinemas? I guess after a number of dates, it'd be ok. Might be better to just save the ticket price and go elsewhere, though.

Better yet, a club, or my place.

Yes, that's a better idea.

Yay!

[Jason LeBlanc]

I was away all weekend and didn't see the posts until now, but he gun control that isn't allowed on JWFan. So don't return to that discussion or the thread will get

[king mark]

Sounds like this kid is trying to be some crazy Joker like character...

Shooter looked like and said he was the Joker.

What did I tell ya folks?

A storm is coming, and Nolan's latest film is right in its way. How unfortunate.

I'm not sure it will affect this film directly, but possibly films that might not be made in the future because of this.

[Koray Savas]

Already happening.

[BloodBoal]

The ironic part is that they'll probably make a film of the shooting at The Dark Knight Rises premiere...

[KK.]

Haha! My friend told me the exact same thing. Glorifying creativity amongst serial killers is something society is into these days...

I'm waiting for the movie they'll make about the gay porn star who was sent on that manhunt fiasco lately.

[Koray Savas]

Singular acts of brutal violence is all too common these days, they make headlines but are quickly forgotten. The only ones that get turned into films are serial killers. People smart enough to evade or even play with our law enforcement system.

[Stefancos]

Koray is right.

There's no angle in this event for a film.

[chuckster312]

Michael Moore will probably make a documentary about this, with the Magnificent Seven theme in its soundtrack...

[ShowUStheHOOK]

http://movies.yahoo....-220129641.html

[Blumenkohl]

Oh now Bale visits everyone. This is getting ridiculous. Sucks that people got killed. But can the world move on or are we gonna squeeze this for every last drop of shock and ratings value?

[indy4]

Oh now Bale visits everyone. This is getting ridiculous. Sucks that people got killed. But can the world move on or are we gonna squeeze this for every last drop of shock and ratings value?

??? Since when is doing something nice for a group of people that are traumatized, in physical danger and/or grieving over the deaths of loved ones squeezing an event for "every last drop of shock and ratings value"?

[Blumenkohl]

There's no reason Christian Bale needs to be there.

"Hey look I know your buddy in the movie theater with you had his brain splattered against the seat behind him...but now you get to meet me. Someone who has no relation to this ordeal other than being on the screen while you were shot. WOO!"

Gimme a break, it would be like John Williams showing up at my funeral because I was listening to Star Wars as I swerved off a cliff.

[indy4]

He doesn't need to be there, just like nobody needs to donate to charity. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be a positive thing to do. He was doing a nice thing for a group of people that went through a traumatic incident, why are you criticizing his decision?

[chuckster312]

[Blumenkohl]

He doesn't need to be there, just like nobody needs to donate to charity. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be a positive thing to do. He was doing a nice thing for a group of people that went through a traumatic incident, why are you criticizing his decision?

Because there's a distinct possibility he's doing it for the publicity.

[indy4]

He doesn't need to be there, just like nobody needs to donate to charity. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be a positive thing to do. He was doing a nice thing for a group of people that went through a traumatic incident, why are you criticizing his decision?

Because there's a distinct possibility he's doing it for the publicity.

He specifically told the hospitals to not alert the media.

[Blumenkohl]

He doesn't need to be there, just like nobody needs to donate to charity. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be a positive thing to do. He was doing a nice thing for a group of people that went through a traumatic incident, why are you criticizing his decision?

Because there's a distinct possibility he's doing it for the publicity.

He specifically told the hospitals to not alert the media.

You're joking right? Like he conveniently forgets that his every move is not tracked by the paparazzi?

He visited 7 of 58 injured. If he wanted to keep it on the down-low he could have arranged to call them instead of flying over with his whole entourage. If he genuinely cared about the victims, why talk to 7 and not the other 51 survivors?

His agent probably told him he needs to do this.

[indy4]

If I were in the hospital I would rather get an in person appearance than a phone call. And you know what, even if it was done for personal gain he made some people happy in the process so I applaud him for that.

[Blumenkohl]

You know what a city with 58 gunshot victims really needs? Blood donations. I'd cut him slack if he did that as a cherry on top.

How cool would it be if he and his entourage all donated blood?

[Quint]

Blum, you're being an even bigger prick than Bale. And Bale is a BIG prick.

[Alexcremers]

People were expecting that the drama would affect the box-office. Well, it did, TDKR had the most successful opening weekend for a 2D movie.

[Josh500]

Blum, you're being an even bigger prick than Bale. And Bale is a BIG prick.

Yes. Except... yeah Bale is a hot-headed ass, sometimes, but then, he does this. So he's not a basket case.

People were expecting that the drama would affect the box-office. Well, it did, TDKR had the most successful opening weekend for a 2D movie.

Before TDK was released, Heath Ledger died.

When TDKR was released, 12 people were killed in a massacre and many more were critically injured.

I am certainly not the only one who starts to suspect that the whole Batman series (by Nolan) is cursed...

[Stefancos]

Financially it is certainly not cursed!

If anything this shooting will affect future Batman films more then it will the Nolan trilogy. I doubt we will ever see a Joker as murderous and insane as Ledger's.

[Richard]

What I'm about to type will not sit well with most, if not all who read this, but here goes:

BURN THE NEGATIVE OF "TDKR", AND, FOR THAT MATTER, "TDK"!

A man walks into a cinema wearing a gas-mask, and full body armor, with dyed-red hair, and calling himself The Joker. He then proceeds to kill numerous people, and injur more.
It's not rocket science: these type of films are seriously fucking-up young lives. How do I know? I know because I work with young people who, after years of watching films like "TDKR", and playing very violent video games, get admitted to my hospital with either severe psychosis, or some sort of embryonic personality disorder.
Films like "TDKR" are, imo, directly responsible for the absolutely horiffic behaviour of some young people today, and if they are not responsible, then they are accountable. The families of the dead should sue Warner Bros. for the loss of their loved ones. Holmes is just the sign: flims like this are the true symptoms.
True; most people are able to tell the difference between reality and fantasy. I deal with those who can't.
Before you all start blasting me, and calling me a troll, ask yourself this question: if "TDKR" had not been made, would Holmes have killed all those people, and also if they knew that, on its opening night, such a thing would happen, would Warner Bros. have made the film? No film is worth dying for, or dying over. I hope that Hollywood learns a lesson over this, even if it is a tragic, and very painful one.

[Ren]

[BloodBoal]

It has nothing to do with films or video games, Richard. There were violent films before TDKR. There will be violent film after TDKR. Same about people. There were always deranged people. There always will be. It's not because we stop making movies like TDKR that suddenly, all deranged people are gonna disappear from the face of the Earth. It's all about education. And since LeBlanc is well educated, he will lock this thread, as Ren suggested.

[Wojo]

Nothing Richard said is really that wrong or shocking. I'm just not sure how much longer this thread can stay useful or relevant, since we've left being shocked over the event and mourning the victims behind in favor of worrying about future box office takes of the violent movies we hold so dear, and arguing over the pettiness of a rather nice gesture by the most visible man in the franchise, since he cannot use a Pit to bring back the 12.

[Jason LeBlanc]

I think this thread has run its course