Matt C 605 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 I'm referring to instruments mainly used for color or atmosphere, ones you'd wish more film scores would use more often or integrate as a main part (Thomas Newman and Alexandre Desplat seem more willing than others). It can range from the usual ethnic flutes to the Chinese ditzi or something like the glass harmonica.I love that otherworldly sound of the glass harmonica, one Debbie Wiseman used to excellent effect in Arsene Lupin. Another one is the hammered dulcimer.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 ClarinetViolinsAlmost unheard of in the scores of Hans Zimmer and his ilk
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 ClarinetViolinsAlmost unheard of in the scores of Hans Zimmer and his ilkToo busy inventing new ones. Diego Stocco's experibass is amazing.
chuck 155 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 The tsungi horn. Never been used in a film score before.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 I would love to image what Jerry could have done with it.
Marcus 395 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 What I would like to hear more, as it has all but disappeared from the film scoring arena, is the sound of separate sections. So many scores seem caught in the "eternal tutti", which makes great tutti writing stand out to less effect. What I'd love to hear more of, is economy. Bring on unusual, colorful combinations in duos, trios etc. Or even entire set pieces conceived for winds alone or brass alone. The funny thing is it won't necessarily sound smaller or less "epic". Another thing I'd like to hear (or write myself, if the opportunity is alloted), is an entirely choral (a cappella) score. And scores for solo instruments, even. Delorean90 1
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 I want more pizzicato!
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 Can't have enough waterphone.
Ludwig 1,180 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 Solo piano. Like over the end credits of E.T.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 Solo piano is hardly unusual in film scores.
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 Great examples there.Theremin, clarinet (sweetest sound in existence), cymbalon, waterphone and similar ideas to the waterphone. I'll add that I'd like some more bassoon, and also old intruments like oud, cithara, etc.
Matt C 605 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 Another thing I'd like to hear (or write myself, if the opportunity is alloted), is an entirely choral (a cappella) score. And scores for solo instruments, even.I noticed a few silent film scores that were played entirely by organ (another underutilized instrument). I forgot the name(s), though.
indy4 160 Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 There should be more trombone solos/solis.
Naïve Old Fart 13,020 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 A Mellotron Mk II - The Black Bitch...
chuck 155 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 The harp. Anyone here knows a film score where the harp is the primary central instrument? airmanjerm 1
Henry B 51 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 Another thing I'd like to hear (or write myself, if the opportunity is alloted), is an entirely choral (a cappella) score. And scores for solo instruments, even.I noticed a few silent film scores that were played entirely by organ (another underutilized instrument). I forgot the name(s), though.Yes, please, let's have some more organ. I think the reputation of this instrument has been decimated just by the cliché of Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor in horror films. It's seriously an amazing instrument, though. The original synthesizer.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 The harp. Anyone here knows a film score where the harp is the primary central instrument?Herrmann's Beneath the 12-Mile Reef. Well, not one harp... nine of them.
crocodile 9,724 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 I want more pizzicato!Like this? And wait, wait, there are woodwinds in it as well! And it doesn't seem like a likely candidate of a movie for this type of instrumentation. Karol - who would like to hear more woodwinds (basoon, clarinet) in a non-comedic vein
Matt C 605 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Posted December 25, 2012 CimbalomI love that! I think a score written for cimbalom, choir, hammered dulcimer, and organ is possible. It'd be challenging, but I'd love to hear something like that.
indy4 160 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 The harp. Anyone here knows a film score where the harp is the primary central instrument?Herrmann's Beneath the 12-Mile Reef. Well, not one harp... nine of them.It's fairly prominent in Herrmann's "Journey to the Center of the EArth" also.
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 It's fairly prominent in Herrmann's "Journey to the Center of the EArth" also.That reminds me... scores without a string section.
Naïve Old Fart 13,020 Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Doesn't "Solaris" (2002) use a gamelan?
gkgyver 1,647 Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Ocarina.Solo piano. Like over the end credits of E.T.Piano is something I definitely want to hear LESS of in todays film scores.
Matt C 605 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Posted December 26, 2012 Piano is something I definitely want to hear LESS of in todays film scores.Wait, what? If the score is well-written and properly orchestrated, why should there be less?
Rachael Foley 10,162 Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 "More pianos the better!" ~ John Williams (or something like that)
Delorean90 47 Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Piano is something I definitely want to hear LESS of in todays film scores.Wait, what? If the score is well-written and properly orchestrated, why should there be less?I think it's more the fact that, when piano is used today, it's more often than not in a really obvious and pedestrian way. I would have no problem with a piano sensitively and intelligently used in a score, though; if someone can come up with another The Conversation, bring it on.As for unusual instruments, I'd love to hear Harry Partch's instruments used in (a) film score(s).
gkgyver 1,647 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Piano is something I definitely want to hear LESS of in todays film scores.Wait, what? If the score is well-written and properly orchestrated, why should there be less?I think it's more the fact that, when piano is used today, it's more often than not in a really obvious and pedestrian way. Exactly.I hate it when a piano is used for just some unobtrusive tingling.I loved it in Amazing Spider-Man. But then, it's James Horner. Most other composer today simply ... aren't James Horner.
Naïve Old Fart 13,020 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 More picollos, but don't tell Franklin J. Schnaffer.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 harpsichord like Johnny Mandel used in his score for Deathtrap.That score is one of the many gems from 1982, a wonderous year for film and film scores.
KK 3,313 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Cimbalom I'm starting to feel that the cimbalom is already starting to overstay its welcome in today's film scores, considering its now become a standard element of MV/RC repertoire.
indy4 160 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I'd like to hear more prominent but accompaniement piano parts, like in Snowy's theme. I love a solo piano, but I feel a lot of times people forget that it can be very effective in supporting or interacting with other sections of the orchestra. Delorean90 1
Naïve Old Fart 13,020 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I'd like to hear more prominent but accompaniement piano parts, like in Snowy's theme. I love a solo piano, but I feel a lot of times people forget that it can be very effective in supporting or interacting with other sections of the orchestra....such as "Corey In Jeopardy"...
crocodile 9,724 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Doesn't "Solaris" (2002) use a gamelan?Alexandre Desplat's The Golden Compass uses gamelan to a great effect.Karol
A24 5,155 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Doesn't "Solaris" (2002) use a gamelan?It's some sort of steel drum or hang drum. A great sound but overused these days.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Yes. Goldsmith used a Dukuk for The Russia House in the early 90s and it sounded fresh and unique. After Gladiator everyone started using one and it became old.
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