Star Trek is probably a tad better than the previous one. But not extraordinary by any means. The others I have no real interest in either.
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After Earth by James Newton Howard (Sony OST June 4 2013)
Started by Jason LeBlanc, Mar 22 2013 02:10 PM
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:17 AM
From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:30 AM
I trust JNH to find at least some interesting soundscapes for Shymalayan. He always excelled in making these score maybe not all extraordinary, but not ordinary, either. With the Smith family at the helm, there might be what i call the Tom-Cruise-baggage: a promise to the audience to deliver cookie-cutter blockbuster shit and after MNS's latest stinkers he will be more malleable to star requests.
AFTER EARTH and its music surely would profit from being a smaller movie.
You wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle Plans Are Here Again."
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:32 AM
I kind of wish Shyamalan made another lame-twist thriller.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:17 AM
I also like The Last Airbender and the Happening scores. And I am Legend. I would like to listen to Airbender in non-butchered form.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:49 AM
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 12:34 PM
OHSHIT, where did they got that from?!
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:34 PM
Dude, recording sessions for film scores leak all the time
So I listened to all 26 minutes of the Cinema Musica "suite" on my way to work this morning. I am impressed, and also unimpressed.
On the one hand, I enjoyed a lot of what I heard - lovely piano work, fun action music, great ambiance and atmosphere, some cool ethnic instruments.
But what's missing is a strong theme to tie everything together. What makes Signs so great - for me - is the great main theme! I can never get enough of it throughout the album. My other favorite JNH score - Waterworld - has 3 awesome themes played at the right times throughout the OST.
Maybe I just missed a main theme in my one listen. Or maybe it's just not in the samples. I guess I shouldn't judge until I've heard the entire OST!
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:52 PM
Well the samples do not set my world on fire but I'll wait for the album before a more fully formed assessment. As publicist said The Happening might not have exactly impressed on first go but it turned out a very nuanced and Herrmannesque little score.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:58 PM
and lets not forget King King, another great JNH score, especially given the time constraints.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:01 PM
Unfortunately they are not available for listening here in Italy.
Too bad!
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:09 PM
Scroll down from my post until you get to publicist's post 
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:24 PM
I had not noticed it! Sorry!
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:31 PM
Well the samples do not set my world on fire but I'll wait for the album before a more fully formed assessment. As publicist said The Happening might not have exactly impressed on first go but it turned out a very nuanced and Herrmannesque little score.
I like many parts, but Howard's new RCP-ized style is still there, particularly in his action music, which has mostly sucked for years now.
He mostly stayed away from electronics in his previous M. Night scores (a sampled choir in Signs is all I can think of), but it seems they're out in full force here, and in doing so it seems to have lost the pure and organic sound which made previous ones so good.
Roll on the full album
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:53 PM
I kind of wish Shyamalan made another lame-twist thriller.
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there is a twist in After Earth no doubt.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:24 AM
Isn't it funny how the third sample sounds like Man of Steel?
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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My initial impressions after one listen: Those looking for a return to the greatness of prior Howard/Shyamalan collaborations will be disappointed. This is a completely different sound than any of those. It's kind of like a RCP style action score written by somebody who actually knows what they are doing, and without quite the over-the-top-ness. There's not a lot truly memorable here, unlike say Signs which has that catchy main theme you remember on the first listen.
A disappointment.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:49 PM
Yeah, I suppose it sounds more like JNH than many of his other recent score. But that doesn't really say much anymore...
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:08 PM
It really isn't on the level of his previous M. Night efforts - far too much filler material, and his action material is really starting to all sound the same (not as bad as Zimmer, but still not overly interesting).
There is a primary theme ('Leaving Nova Prime', 'Saved by the Bird') which is quite good, but it feels engineered somehow. Not brilliant.
A lot of cello use which make the quieter parts sound a bit like The Happening with a more modern sound. It's just nowhere near as interesting to me as that score.
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Isn't it funny how the third sample sounds like Man of Steel?
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Posted Today, 05:32 AM
Is it out already?
You wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle Plans Are Here Again."
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Posted Today, 11:12 AM
Sony sent it out for review sites.
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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It's a mixed bag, some nice quiet / dramatic moments but too much generic action / up tempo music.
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I'm uninterested.
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It's a mixed bag, some nice quiet / dramatic moments but too much generic action / up tempo music.
More or less my feelings as well, will go into greater depth for my review. In a nutshell: it's the soft, emotional punch of I Am Legend with the action punch of The Last Airbender.
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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