Michael Bay Apologizes for Armageddon

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/michael-bay-apologizes-for-armageddon.html?mid=imdb

I will apologize for Armageddon." He explained: "We had to do the whole movie in 16 weeks. It was a massive undertaking. That was not fair to the movie. I would redo the entire third act if I could. But the studio literally took the movie away from us.

What about Transformers 2 and 3, and Bad Boys 2? And Pearl Harbor?

[chuck 155]

Sheesh. I was still a kid when that film came out. No harm done.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/michael-bay-apologizes-for-armageddon.html?mid=imdb

I will apologize for Armageddon." He explained: "We had to do the whole movie in 16 weeks. It was a massive undertaking. That was not fair to the movie. I would redo the entire third act if I could. But the studio literally took the movie away from us.

What about Transformers 2 and 3, and Bad Boys 2? And Pearl Harbor?

...and "The Island", and his part in "Mystery Men", and...

[Jay 46,241]

What did Michael Bay have to do with Mystery Men?

[Wojo 2,458]

Actor, Frat Boy. Unless IMDB lied.

I consider Armageddon a guilty pleasure. No apologies required.

[Jay 46,241]

Yea, Armageddon was fine for what it is. As others have mentioned, Bad Boys II and the Transformers movies are far, far worse than Armageddon.

[filmmusic 3,269]

I don't know, but i loved Armageddon!!

and, yes, i hate Transformers. it is the only movie till now, in which i slept at the cinema. And this, during the 2nd half, which has all the big noise and SFX etc..

[Brónach 1,330]

I can't stand Armageddon.

[Wojo 2,458]

I feel that way about its competing movie, Deep Impact.

[Brónach 1,330]

I can't stand Deep Impact.

[Quintus 6,494]

I don't mind Armageddon, it's cheesy fun in the vain of ID4. There's really no need to apologise for it.

Deep Impact on the other hand was dreary dire.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Michael Bay is fully aware about how the public perceives his movies.

Also his cameo in Mystery Men is hilarious, primarily because I didn't know beforehand that he was in there.

[Pieter Boelen 1,032]

Armageddon is brilliantly hilarious. No classy cinema by any stretch of the imagination, but if a film is entertaining, I'm willing to forgive quite a few of its faults.

And whoever wants to watch something like Schindler's List on repeat anyway?

[Wojo 2,458]

I still never want to see that one once.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

Ant-semite!

[BLUMENKOHL 1,110]

Call him what you will, but Bay is a very talented director.

He just puts it all into incredible dumb films.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

He has got a visual flair, and a sense of the dramatic. Who knows oneday he will get a good script?

[Brónach 1,330]

[Wojo 2,458]

Ant-semite!

Raid or Black Flag works well.

[Quintus 6,494]

He has got a visual flair, and a sense of the dramatic. Who knows oneday he will get a good script?

Yeah, the world's got it all wrong about Bay, he's just been unlucky with his choices. Given the right material he could at last reveal his inner Kubrick. But only after he's completed his Transformers saga.

[Uni 307]

Ant-semite!

Dude, he just called you a Jewish insect. . . .

Armageddon was the first official Bay whopper-turd. I often wonder how I would view the movie these days, after having been cinematically molested by everything he did afterward. I, too, might be more inclined to see it as harmless camp in hindsight.

That he apologized for this, however, and not for the rest of his repertoire, makes it a half-hearted and insincere repentance at best.

Call him what you will, but Bay is a very talented director.

He just puts it all into incredible dumb films.

I don't see that. A talented director could do something with these ideas. I think he takes workable concepts and dumbs them down until they're sheep fodder—mindless garbage that's still guaranteed to make enough money to allow him to foist more mindless garbage on us.

He has got a visual flair, and a sense of the dramatic. Who knows oneday he will get a good script?

Ultimately it's not about the scripts. To paraphrase a wise old sage, "A good director doesn't get great scripts; a good director makes them great."

- Uni

[A24 5,155]

I can't stand Armageddon.

+1

[BLUMENKOHL 1,110]

Call him what you will, but Bay is a very talented director.

He just puts it all into incredible dumb films.

I don't see that. A talented director could do something with these ideas. I think he takes workable concepts and dumbs them down until they're sheep fodder—mindless garbage that's still guaranteed to make enough money to allow him to foist more mindless garbage on us.

He has got a visual flair, and a sense of the dramatic. Who knows oneday he will get a good script?

Ultimately it's not about the scripts. To paraphrase a wise old sage, "A good director doesn't get great scripts; a good director makes them great."

- Uni

Bullpoop.

[Richard P 5,302]

I always liked Armageddon for what it was. He should be apologising for everything he's done since, however.

[Brónach 1,330]

There aren't many films that manage to loose lose me already in the first minute like that one lol

[Jay 46,241]

What part of you did it loosen up?

(Unless you meant it lost you...)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

Urgh! Is being a grammar Nazi an New England thing!

[Brónach 1,330]

I keep confusing these two words.

Also lighting/lightning...

[Jay 46,241]

An extremely common mistake

[MSM 194]

I don't mind Armageddon, it's cheesy fun in the vain of ID4. There's really no need to apologise for it.

Deep Impact on the other hand was dreary dire.

+1

[Wojo 2,458]

Jay missed vain/vein.

[Rachael Foley 10,162]

I still think the thread title is funny.

[Wojo 2,458]

Actually, Yahoo posted an article in which Bay said he was misquoted. He wasn't apologizing for the film, just the compressed schedule that compromised the effects, particularly those of the third act.

[Marian Schedenig 11,694]

Apologising for just the third act is, in my opinion, pretty irrelevant anyway. If anything he'd have to apologise for the whole thing.

[Brónach 1,330]

I read NASA uses this film to test people on how much stupid can they detect in it.

[crocodile 9,724]

So it is indeed of some value after all?

Karol

[Koray Savas 2,260]

The Criterion Collection released it after all.

I like Michael Bay, he's an auteur with an instantly recognizable style, which isn't something that can be said for a lot of directors. The Rock is still one of the best action movies ever made. I'm looking forward to Pain & Gain, which looks like Bad Boys without Will Smith and Martin Lawrence.

[Wojo 2,458]

I read NASA uses this film to test people on how much stupid can they detect in it.

Apollo 13 is rife with mistakes too. Not stupid ones, mind you, or the creative license, but still oversights and goofs.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Films are heightened depictions of reality. There are certain things in real life that are quite ordinary and mundane that wouldn't translate to exiting cinema.

Every bank robbery on film is severely exaggerated. Banks don't carry more than tens of thousands of dollars. All of a branch's money could fit in one backpack.

[Matt C 605]

It's 15 years too late, Michael.

... on the other hand, he needs to apologize for inflicting the first two Transformers films on the public. Absolute tripe.

I will admit to liking Transformers: Dark of the Moon. Don't hate on me!

[KK 3,313]

I read NASA uses this film to test people on how much stupid can they detect in it.

They also do this with The Core no? Now that was a stupid movie...

[Wojo 2,458]

I will admit to liking Transformers: Dark of the Moon. Don't hate on me!

I thought the movie was dreadfully long. A judicious editor could have excised a major part of the middle and turned it into a tighter action movie. I still can't buy why the doctor from Grey's Anatomy would sell out humanity to a bunch of giant space robots. What could they give him? Money? Women? Lifetime oil changes? Come on.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I still maintain that the last 40 minutes of Transformers is action moviemaking at its finest.

[Matt C 605]

I will admit to liking Transformers: Dark of the Moon. Don't hate on me!

I thought the movie was dreadfully long. A judicious editor could have excised a major part of the middle and turned it into a tighter action movie. I still can't buy why the doctor from Grey's Anatomy would sell out humanity to a bunch of giant space robots. What could they give him? Money? Women? Lifetime oil changes? Come on.

When I watch the movie, I skip directly to the action sequences. The opening scenes with Sam bitching about finding a job was just painful. As for Patrick Dempsey's character, I didn't mind him selling out humanity. I was half-hoping he'd kill Sam and/or the annoying soldiers, and keeping that Victoria's Secret chick alive. He felt at home in this movie than the regular actors who've been there since the first film, like Shia LaBoeuf or John Turturro.

Although I laugh whenever that chick runs around in heels during most of the action scenes... I was like, why isn't she tripping or falling? Any sensible woman would've ditched the heels early and made better time in bare feet.

[Red 75]

Bay wasn't actually apologizing for the movie in the way you might think.

If he was doling out proper apologies he should start with Transformers 2 and Pearl Harbor first. Comparatively Armageddon isn't that bad.

[publicist 4,650]

Call him what you will, but Bay is a very talented director.

He just puts it all into incredible dumb films.

Talented for what? For producing the most hateful ignorant, stupid, woman-hating, jingoistic frat boy movies Hollywood ever had the gall to let out on a worldwide public?

ARMAGEDDON is not the worst of these for sure, but i still remember watching TRANSFORMERS 3 in a press screening, sitting there in stunned silence while reading the 'produced by Steven Spielberg' credit.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[publicist 4,650]

Never made it to those!

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[publicist 4,650]

I want to congratulate you on giving teasing teenage girls what they so clearly deserve: getting robot-moussed in the face and harassed by mechanic tentacles.