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#41 publicist

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 06:22 AM

But you can start rumours on the internet.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:10 AM

Good rumour is better than truth, anyway.

 

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 12:17 AM

Good rumour is better than truth, anyway.

 

Or so they say.



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 08:45 PM

I think the action music from Odds and Ends is some of Goldsmith's coolest. Ironic considering what it underscored, but it just goes to show how great he was, even when composing for pure shit. He basically did this kind of thing for all of his Trek scores from V on. He'd create a relatively simplistic theme for the villains and construe (?) it in various ways throughout the score, at some point (or several) having the orchestra (typically emphasis on brass) play the shit out of it. Examples: Pick it Up, Shields Down, The Drones Attack.



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 03:59 PM

"It is a score that could be described as being among the awkward few that offer all substance and no style." - Cristian Clemmonnson



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 04:21 PM

A ridiculous thing to say about the best score of 2002, according to Dan Hobgood.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 04:54 PM

And anyone with more than half a brain.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 04:56 PM

At the time many preferred lesser scores like The Two Towers, The Matrix Reloaded or Attack Of The Clones.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 05:13 PM

Yes, including me (only TTT). But with the Cauliflower perspective, I can't continue to feel that way.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 05:28 PM

Hobgood and Blumenkohl have shown us the truth...and it's named Nemesis!


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:13 PM

"It is a score that could be described as being among the awkward few that offer all substance and no style." - Cristian Clemmonnson

 

He also recently commented about the Deluxe Edition.

 

"This music boldly goes nowhere, and it remains a major disappointment."

 

I've always said he's an idiot and continue to believe that to this day.

 

 

I for one love the Deluxe Edition of the score and I think a lot more people like it now in complete form.  Just like with Star Trek IV The Voyage Home.  A lot of people didn't like the score but once the complete version came out a lot of people changed their minds and now like it.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:29 PM

I go back and forth about Rosenman's score.  Sometimes I like it, sometimes I only dislike the corny part of the main theme, and sometimes I find all of his music a bit off-putting.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:31 PM

I dislike it

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:54 PM

I dislike it

 

Star Trek IV?

 

Although it's not for everyone.  Being the Trekkie I am I like all the film scores.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:01 PM

I really only like the main titles and its reprise. The rest is just there.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:15 AM

The Matrix Reloaded was from 2003, not 2002

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:22 AM

No love for Signs or Road To Perdition?


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:24 AM

I skip much of the score between meeting Shinzon and Picard's kidnapping. Almost everything before and after that is pure Goldsmith sex to my ears.



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:25 AM

No love for Signs or Road To Perdition?

 

Immense love.  But Jerry's last score... it's tough.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:58 AM

I skip much of the score between meeting Shinzon and Picard's kidnapping. Almost everything before and after that is pure Goldsmith sex to my ears.

Just take a look at Joel. There's your Goldsmith sex.




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