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#721 Charlie Brigden

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 06:49 PM

I'd love them to remake it.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:46 PM

Already mentioned - I'd be in support of a TV adaptation that follows the book really closely. In fact that's how I think most book adaptations should be handled, because you read them in sittings (or I do anyway) and put the book down or go to sleep when you reach the end of a chapter.

And the whole 'starting a new trilogy' thing... not a fan. I could welcome a fourth movie if they do it well, i.e. some intelligence, and action sequences in which you care more about the characters (JP3 was fun, but I couldn't give a shit about the Kirbys).

I'd be happy with the score being done by anyone who's not in RCP, given that the chances of getting Williams to return to this franchise... not gonna happen.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:48 PM

I'm convinced you could make great films with dinosaurs without the need of making Jurassic Park 4, remaking the first film or adapting the novel again.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 08:06 PM

I'm convinced you could make great films with dinosaurs without the need of making Jurassic Park 4, remaking the first film or adapting the novel again.


You could, of course (and I'd be interested in that), but it's less the dinosaurs and more the fictional universe already established that interests me -- the locales, the characters, the plotlines.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 09:52 PM

Well, there's a bunch of dinosaur movies coming in the next two years. BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs is coming to the big screen with a new documentary, and Pixar's making a dinosaur film, too. I remember there were a couple more but I can't seem to recall them right now.

I know I'm the minority here, but I always have been interested in seeing how the park itself was made in the series. A prequel of sorts, but for some reason most JP fans want to see the series moving forward, but if you think about it, apart from Biosyn and stuff like that, there isn't much left to tell. But regarding the park origins, there's lot of potential right there.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 11:04 PM

BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs is coming to the big screen with a new documentary


damn why cant they do this with the ILM/Stan Winston dinosarus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 11:09 PM

Because they are ILM/Stan Winston dinosaurs. Because they belonged in a famous fantasy film. If you don't change them people are going to complain. If you change them they aren't the same dinosaurs anymore.

I hope the WwD thing people keep talking about is seriously updated. A lot has happened in these years, and some models were already defective.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 12:41 AM

I mean.... why can't Amblin make a dinosaur doccumentary using the dinosaurs from the films...

they could even change the looks a little (i mean feathers and the like-the facial desings should be kept even if they are a little innacurate), to adapt to new theories...
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 11:43 AM

Well, there's a bunch of dinosaur movies coming in the next two years. BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs is coming to the big screen with a new documentary, and Pixar's making a dinosaur film, too. I remember there were a couple more but I can't seem to recall them right now.

I know I'm the minority here, but I always have been interested in seeing how the park itself was made in the series. A prequel of sorts, but for some reason most JP fans want to see the series moving forward, but if you think about it, apart from Biosyn and stuff like that, there isn't much left to tell. But regarding the park origins, there's lot of potential right there.


There is, and they explore a little bit of it (at least in expository dialogue) in the wonderful JURASSIC PARK: THE GAME which came out recently.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 12:42 PM

i thought the game received some pretty awful reviews

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 01:47 PM

as a game by nowadays standards it fails but as an interactive movie the story is interesting and cool.
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 02:30 PM

As someone who absolutely HATES shootemups and more typical 3D environment action games, I could actually get on board with this one. Sure, it was tricky to press the right keys at the right moments in some cases (I was probably eaten by dinosaurs about a 100 times during the game), but the story and atmosphere was so addictive that it played out like a wonderful interactive movie. Even worked for a hardcore, old-school point-and-click adventure gamer like myself.

After 10 years of no JP, I was completely STARVED, so it filled a long desire to explore that world further, the JP junkie that I am. I played it through over two nights.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 03:08 PM

Is it like any of the other Tell Tale games? PC Gamer ripped it apart, and they are usually big fans of Tell Tale's work.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 05:40 PM

Is it like any of the other Tell Tale games? PC Gamer ripped it apart, and they are usually big fans of Tell Tale's work.


No, it's not really like any of the other Telltale games I've played (BACK TO THE FUTURE and MONKEY ISLANDs). There is a small element of point-and-click in it, there are some puzzles that require a bit of brain capacity rather than timing and co-ordination and you can choose to have long dialogues in some scenes (which I do!), but it's really a pure action game with adventure elements. You die in it!

I haven't played the SAM & MAX games yet, but I aim to. First I need to play the old SAM & MAX HIT THE ROAD again, as a warm-up (I'm already half-way).

I can understand it doesn't go over well with contmporary gamers and critics, who prefer more free-form movement and more shooting and stuff, but it's a great compromise for old-school adventure gamers like myself. And the story is fantastic. You're right back in the JP universe from the get-go. It gets top grades from me (except a couple of insanely difficult situations, especially Tricoterops Trouble).

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:46 PM

i would have prefered more freedom in the 'point and click' parts mixed with the 'button hitting'-action scenes.

It would have been neat that way.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:21 PM

Spielberg made a comment to a website that JP4 is still "on the schedule," after Lincoln. It's not a definitive confirmation, but at least it hasn't been ruled out yet:

http://www.comingsoo...4#ixzz1gI4oCNVD

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:06 PM

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I don’t want to talk about Jurassic Park 4 yet – it’s too early – but I can tell you that I’m not directing it. I’m producing it though.



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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:10 PM

No Williams then (did we really think he would score it anyway).

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:13 PM

I'm glad Spielberg isn't directing if that's his enthusiasm. We've seen what happens when he has to direct something his heart isn't in.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

Yup, I doubt we'd get a very inspired film or score.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:47 PM

um indy iv was rathe inspired.

williams delivered even if spielberg didnt.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:48 PM

Neither did to my expectations.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:50 PM

im sorry for you... :P
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 12:15 AM

Told you guys so.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 12:19 AM

what, that williams was not scoring JIV?

I think we already knew that....
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 12:20 AM

um indy iv was rathe inspired.

williams delivered even if spielberg didnt.

Yes, but I feel like there's more ground on an Indy film. For JP there's always some mistake that results in an action/adventure movie where people get eaten by dinosaurs. I mean, how many times can you make a movie about that? You can do a lot more with Indy (and I feel that both Spielberg and Williams did so with KotCS).
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 12:42 AM

They should give this to Paul Verhoeven and Phil Tippett. And have Goldenthal score it.
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:53 AM

I think what you're all expecting is the same reason that the films don't work anymore and it's kinda humorous. You complain that it's "all been done" but at the same time you're painting the series into a box...which Universal then perceives as what Jurassic Park is, and they produce a film to fit in that box, and thus it's been done before and is bland... see this cycle? lol

What are some of the things that make JP so great? To me, it's how much science it encompasses.

Think about it... corporatism running genetic research? The implications there are endless...
The need for man to control nature. The absolute ego that epitomizes some of the cutting edge science today.. these are the juicy story points... mix these with captivating characters and you can weild a great story.

I wrote one that I'm still working on which draws a parallel between the "mishaps" and "mistakes" of jurassic park, and genetic tampering on say.. human DNA... other animal DNA... what have you. You could create another moral tale just like what JP was...
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 04:57 PM

I don't really care whether Spielberg or Williams are involved.....all I want is to return to that universe! I would preferably have a good director, though, but with Spielberg as producer, I'm sure that will be taken care of.

There are absolutely ENDLESS possibilities in terms of narrative -- the recent JP game proved that -- but more importantly for me is to experience the same atmosphere.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 05:01 PM

I'm convinced you could make great films with dinosaurs without the need of making Jurassic Park 4, remaking the first film or adapting the novel again.


There's an interesting concept. If Spielberg/Universal or what have you wanted to do things that way and come up with a fresh idea, how much do you think they would have to re-design the dinosaurs? How much can you change those creatures (and the way they move, sound...) that are what they are anyway? Also, if we accept Jurassic Park as the pinnacle of dinosaur design, would the new look go against the new movie's detriment? Or would the audience accept the same dinosaurs in a different franchise?
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 05:11 PM

No remakes, please! I want to continue the existing storyline somehow, whether a prequel or a sequel, preferably with some of the established JP characters (although it would probably be difficult to get Attenborough back for Hammond in a prequel, as he's too old now to play a pre-JP version of himself).

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 05:16 PM

I think I'd be unisterested in a remake.


I'm convinced you could make great films with dinosaurs without the need of making Jurassic Park 4, remaking the first film or adapting the novel again.


There's an interesting concept. If Spielberg/Universal or what have you wanted to do things that way and come up with a fresh idea, how much do you think they would have to re-design the dinosaurs? How much can you change those creatures (and the way they move, sound...) that are what they are anyway? Also, if we accept Jurassic Park as the pinnacle of dinosaur design, would the new look go against the new movie's detriment? Or would the audience accept the same dinosaurs in a different franchise?

Well if it wasn't a Jurassic Park film and the dinosaurs onscreen were supposed to be real dinosaurs unlike in JP, I would go with more modern and exact designs, I would avoid stock dinosaurs and try to surprise the audience, and I would really look up non dinosaur life for that purpose as well. I would probably rely a bit on showing off biodiversity if it was a time travel story. I would also give example of aggresiveness in plant-eaters and the need of predators of going silent. And lots of small animals of course. I think people can easily enjoy this, as people wouldn't like the repeating the designs and ideas of Jurassic Park, or at least I wouldn't (hell I was bothered by the use of JP's sfx in Avatar).

That's of course and option, as it depends completely on the story. If you make something like King Kong you can rely on vintage ideas and almost Burroughsian fantasy. And it can be a lot of fun.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 05:23 PM

I don't really care whether Spielberg or Williams are involved.....all I want is to return to that universe! I would preferably have a good director, though, but with Spielberg as producer, I'm sure that will be taken care of.


Spielberg also produced all the Transformers films and Cowboys vs. Aliens. I'm not sure Spielberg does the best job as a producer ;)

Personally, I'm a bit tired with Jurassic Park. I'd like to see if they'd branch out from the typical formula for the 4th film. It'll be interesting to see what they do.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 09:33 PM

Spielberg is executive producer on those and a whole load of others. It doesn't mean anything more than he owns a company that helped made it, probably.

Amblin made JP3, and I hear he visited the set at one point...

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:37 PM

Usually Spielberg keeps a hands of approach on the movies he produces. Apart from Poltergeist....

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:40 PM

Exactly. So why is Spielberg producing Jurassic Park 4, something to be excited about?

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

It really is not.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:55 PM

A remake to The Lost World as a sequel to the original Jurassic Park using JW's score with a good director: :up:
Random JP sequel as usual. :down:

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:30 AM

Silly!

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:31 AM

Exactly. So why is Spielberg producing Jurassic Park 4, something to be excited about?


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